Absolute Proof the Earth is Round NOT Flat!

a reply to: neutronflux

You should stay with you globe theory you seem to know al lot about that, but stay away from religious explanations becuase you clearly know nothing about it.

originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: neutronflux

You should stay with you globe theory you seem to know al lot about that, but stay away from religious explanations becuase you clearly know nothing about it.

Judgement belongs to God. Not you.

I know I am saved by the grace of God, and the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Mark 12:30-31
New International Version
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[a](A) 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’(B) There is no commandment greater than these.”

Salvation is for all who are freely willing to except it, and repent. As in turn from a Godless life.

Now.

Why does the sun set beyond the horizon. Blocked physically from view by the curvature of the earth if the earth is flat.

a reply to: turbonium1

You

When astronomers saw Saturn spinning and wobbling, and without ever seeing such a thing before, or ever being known to occur, or ever being documented as an 'effect of atmosphere', or ever known to EXIST, then I hear you claim to ACTUALLY KNOW their thoughts - that all of them immediately 'knew' it WAS an 'effect of atmosphere'.

I was in this thread.
The 2008 Turkey "UFO" is NOT a UFO
www.abovetopsecret.com...

That lead to another post in another thread that highlights how ignorant you are of telescopes.

Aliens or what?

originally posted by: Blue Shift

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If you look at all the footage, including the stuff that doesn't look like a convertible flying saucer, it often looks distorted and compressed. And if you speed up the footage, you can get a better idea about what it really is, which is some kind of odd misalignment of the crazy rig he was using to do the filming. He was holding a cheap telescope up to the lens of his camera, and the "UFO" is a reflection off one of the edges of the lenses or lens mounts. With this one, the far-off light (probably a boat) is likely reflecting off (or refracting through) the top of the telescope lens.

2008 UFO Footage Filmed In Kumburgaz, Turkey • Part 2

m.youtube.com...

That might also explain why it's green and has concentric circles. After he made some money with this, he got better equipment including a camera with a real telephoto lens. Not surprisingly, the aliens stopped showing up.

As someone who uses a monocular regularly, I can attest that misalignment is a recurring issue.

I don't know why people are so enthralled with this video. This one and the Salida, Colorado video are so often presented as some of the best proof of possibly alien UFOs, yet they are both just garbage.

Because people can’t operate a telescope, you go right to your fantasy the earth is flat.

You have quiet a disconnect from reality.

a reply to: AncientHeru
But that wasn't the question.

The question was if the shape of the earth was going to be discovered and that "transgression" really doesn't make a difference, why lie about it?

You can't give a simple straightforward answer because there isn't one.

Instead you are sidestepping the question by bringing up a whole lot of other unrelated stuff.

a reply to: daskakik

I have already answered the question, twice.

As time goes by we get more ignorant.

We are moving farther and farther away from scriptural teachings.

The globe theory is moving even us farther away.

a reply to: AncientHeru

It's not a "theory" it's a well proven fact.

Your lack of any credible response to the endless proof other than "religion says" drags you back to the Middle Ages.

a reply to: AncientHeru
That doesn't answer anything because it isn't true, globe theory has not moved all the faithful people farther away.

That is just how you justify your belief in flat earth.

Besides, you said it yourself, the bible doesn't really say what the shape is and what minimal descriptions exist are interpretations by the author, using their understanding at the time.

There is nothing in the bible that says the earth can't be a globe.

a reply to: daskakik

That doesn't answer anything because it isn't true

I said the globe theory brings us farther away from scriptures. The scriptures say the earth has four corners and is encased in a dome (firmament), so yes, the globe theory does bring us away from scriptures, that is true.

And like I said previously, I don't think the earth is flat like a piece of paper, but I know its definitely not a rock spinning in space.

originally posted by: AncientHeru
I said the globe theory brings us farther away from scriptures. The scriptures say the earth has four corners and is encased in a dome (firmament), so yes, the globe theory does bring us away from scriptures, that is true.

But you are dismissing the fact that the people that wrote it or passed down the stories couldn't envision a globe, they had only one way to describe it, like their shelters.

For example, the Ezekiel quote you posted earlier, that is describing a building complex: walls, gates, a courtyard and other buildings. Of course they are going to have corners, if people were used to building in square/rectangular shapes.

Also, was that even describing earth or just a cherry picked quote where 4 corners are mentioned?

And like I said previously, I don't think the earth is flat like a piece of paper, but I know its definitely not a rock spinning in space.

You have every right to your opinion, but it doesn't make it the truth.

I have already answered the question, twice.

As time goes by we get more ignorant.

We are moving farther and farther away from scriptural teachings.

The globe theory is moving even us farther away.

Ok. You have free will and freedom of religion. Things I support.

Not the intent of this thread.

Now. Something that is on topic of this thread.

Why does the sun set beyond the horizon. Blocked physically from view by the curvature of the earth if the earth is flat.

Funny your the one that can’t answer a question unless a book programs you what to say.

originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: daskakik

That doesn't answer anything because it isn't true

I said the globe theory brings us farther away from scriptures. The scriptures say the earth has four corners and is encased in a dome (firmament), so yes, the globe theory does bring us away from scriptures, that is true.

And like I said previously, I don't think the earth is flat like a piece of paper, but I know its definitely not a rock spinning in space.

So, post what your scriptures actually say about this.

Thanks in advance.

a reply to: daskakik

Isaiah 11:12 “And gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.”

Revelation 7:1 "After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree"

Ezekial 7:2 "“And you, O son of man, thus says the Lord God to the land of Israel: An end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land."

Revelation 20:8 "And will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth"

Yeah I know majority of the world believes in globe earth.
I have to make conclusions about my world through my direct experience.
Well have to agree to disagree, your entitled to your opinion as well.

originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: daskakik

Isaiah 11:12 “And gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.”

Revelation 7:1 "After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree"

Ezekial 7:2 "“And you, O son of man, thus says the Lord God to the land of Israel: An end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land."

Revelation 20:8 "And will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth"

Yeah I know majority of the world believes in globe earth.
I have to make conclusions about my world through my direct experience.
Well have to agree to disagree, your entitled to your opinion as well.

Ah. So you take that literally and not figuratively.

Weak, very weak.

If you really took the scriptures literally you should be a Jehovah's Witness. Are you?

a reply to: AncientHeru

Come. Focus. Stay on topic..

Now. Something that is on topic of this thread.

Why does the sun set beyond the horizon. Blocked physically from view by the curvature of the earth if the earth is flat.

Funny your the one that can’t answer a question unless a book programs you what to say.

And here lies your problem. As I said earlier, you cannot have anything except the literal word of the bible, even if that word is an expression, or figure of speech. The insanity of your belief system is right above this post.

a reply to: AncientHeru
Yes, it was also a common literary phrase based on limited knowledge. All I'm saying is that things like that have to be taken into account.

Yeah I know majority of the world believes in globe earth.
I have to make conclusions about my world through my direct experience.
Well have to agree to disagree, your entitled to your opinion as well.

But you are here discussing the point and I asked a sensible question, why lie about something that makes no difference?

You came up with a reason which is wrong because globe theory isn't what makes people less religious. So, again, why lie about the shape of the earth, if it makes no difference?

originally posted by: AncientHeru
Yeah I know majority of the world believes in globe earth.

Changing beliefs requires evidence. I will accept a picture of the edge of the "flat earth".

I already have plenty of pictures of the spherical kind.

a reply to: TerraLiga

Ive already told you, Ive seen the firmament and the world above, scripture only verifies what I have seen, it's not the sole reason I believe what I do.

a reply to: peck420

I believed in a globe earth for 22 years of my life, then I saw the firmament and it changed my belief. I'm defending my belief, not trying to convice you.

a reply to: daskakik

I have answered that question three times now.

The globe theory is one on MANY ways to bring us farther from the truth of our existence.

Sorry you don't accept that answer.