Absolute Proof the Earth is Round NOT Flat!

I wanted to add that we are all wasting our time trying to convince this lunatic fringe of the truth. This is just entertainment, but they simply don't realise that they are the comedy act, which makes it even funnier.

originally posted by: TerraLiga
I wanted to add that we are all wasting our time trying to convince this lunatic fringe of the truth. This is just entertainment, but they simply don't realise that they are the comedy act, which makes it even funnier.

Funny how we find stupidity entertaining. Maybe its just we have a hard time believing there are people like this? Maybe its just a feeling of superiority either way it is funny.

a reply to: dragonridr

It's not superiority in a condescending manner, it's more disbelief that knowledge of us, our planet and the universe at large ended 3000 years ago. If it's not in the bible it doesn't exist.

How do these people survive in a modern society? Are they laughed at by their families, by their children, by their colleagues at work, or their neighbours? How do they survive the scrutiny every single day by their peers? Or do they keep their beliefs secret and simply release themselves on forums like this?

Just from a psychological perspective I'm intrigued.

originally posted by: TerraLiga
a reply to: dragonridr

It's not superiority in a condescending manner, it's more disbelief that knowledge of us, our planet and the universe at large ended 3000 years ago. If it's not in the bible it doesn't exist.

How do these people survive in a modern society? Are they laughed at by their families, by their children, by their colleagues at work, or their neighbours? How do they survive the scrutiny every single day by their peers? Or do they keep their beliefs secret and simply release themselves on forums like this?

Just from a psychological perspective I'm intrigued.

I do hope they are loved.

It’s one thing to have your belief, and live and let live.

It’s completely different if you try to engage in actual debate.

I really don’t care what Turbo believes. But the individual tries to engage in debate.

Why would we not be loved? Not everyone is as serious as you guys. You guys seem really bothered.

People love to hear about my visions. My family adores me, my friends love me, and girls especially enjoy hearing about adventurous realities that they have never heard of before. You can take them to a new world.

Of course there are mean people that enjoy throwing insults when they hear anything that isn't part of their perceived reality. But thats all they have, their hate, it means nothing to me. I still hope they have blessed lives.

I use discernment, I talk about my beliefs and if people are interested I continue, when they get triggered I talk about something else.

I have formed amazing relationships with people who can see behind the veil.

My charm and looks also greatly help when talking to people but obviously can't be used over the internet.

Living in society is easy, I've accomplished all the mundane tasks of our culture quiet easily. Life's easy, its not so serious.

Most of you guys must be much older because younger people are not as hardened and they are more open minded, generally speaking.

a reply to: AncientHeru

Sounds sort of cult like.

My charm and looks also greatly help when talking to people but obviously can't be used over the internet.

You are also very humble. Right?

a reply to: Phage

All glory to God.

Extremely humble, thats what people tell me, should i not accept it?

a reply to: AncientHeru

Yeah. And brag about it too!

Of course, for all we know you are a 300 # incel. This being the internet and all.

a reply to: AncientHeru

You

Not everyone is as serious as you guys. You guys seem really bothered.

How else do you contest a lie in a debate forum?

a reply to: AncientHeru

I'm glad you're not taking this flat earth business seriously. We're not either.

a reply to: Phage

I am grateful for thr life Godgave me, i'm not bragging, someone asked how I survived im modern society, so I answered.

I have no reason to lie, but believe what you want, doesnt change my life.

a reply to: neutronflux

It's the insults you throw that are unnecessary and too serious.

No one is lying, it's how they percieve their reality.

originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: neutronflux

It's the insults you throw that are unnecessary and too serious.

No one is lying, it's how they percieve their reality.

Bo the whole thing relies on trying to prove a negative. For example, I could say prove to me there are no pink elephants. And i could respond well no one has ever seen a pink elephant. To which you could respond well maybe we just haven't seen enough elephants yet.

This is the flat earth argument they aren't trying to prove the earth is flat at all. They are trying to make everyone else prove it isnt. And just like our pink elephant you can always argue something else needs to be done to prove it.

originally posted by: neutronflux
What is a magnet center? Please define.

The earth has a magnetic field. It has a north and South Pole. Like a magnet.

Why does the earth have a magnetic field. And how would that be possible without a north and South Pole in the context of a magnetic field?

The fact the earth has a magnetic field just proves the earth spins, and flat earth is a lie.

The ball Earth fairy tale is entirely built on lies, so deep, you believe it's all true, which is sad.

Most likely, the magnetic center is a monopole, a magnet with a single pole, emitting magnetic waves outward, over the Earth.

Scientists create a ONE-poled magnet - and it could unlock the secrets surrounding the birth of the universe

..scientists believe that a magnetic monopole - a magnet with just one pole - should exist to explain fundamental physics.

A magnetic monopole is a particle just like an electron, but with a magnetic rather than an electric charge.

www.dailymail.co.uk...



A north without a south....


Another point - your fairy tale claims the magnetic center point of Earth, to NOT be at the center of their ball Earth. Because they can't line it up with their phony ball planet, they made up a phony center for it, called the 'true north', or 'geographical north', to fit their ball Earth BS.

NOTHING lines up with this phony 'true north', because it's made up, like everything else in this fairy tale is.

The north star lies directly above the magnetic center of Earth, making two exactly matching features of the center of the real Earth, which is, indeed, flat.

Nothing has to be made up when you have the truth, only lies have to make up things to support the lies. And that's what you have - a fairy tale, built upon nothing but lie after lie.

Why would the north star always match the magnetic north, and not your made up 'true north'? (And which is a most ironic name for an absolute falsehood).

originally posted by: neutronflux
It is clear on the map of flat earth you would have to travel east from Africa to get to Antarctica relative to north south in North America. Is that false?

Yes, it is false, just like 'Antarctica' is a falsehood, made up to support the ball Earth lie.

If you travel directly East from Africa, you would NEVER reach the southern perimeter of Earth, that you call 'Antarctica'.

True east is NOT a straight line across Earth, it is an arc, like the lines you drew on the flat earth map. When a plane flies directly east (or directly west), it will eventually return to the point of origin, because the plane flew in a full circle around the Earth.

All of which would NOT work, if they used their made up 'true north', of course. Like surveyors, and every other industry, planes always use the FLAT Earth, measure the flight over a flat Earth, navigate by the real center of the Earth, which is flat, because that's what it is - flat.


No made up magical forces, no made up 'true north', which is a joke everyone ignores, no made up 'curvature' that everybody ignores. The entire world operates, and builds structures, and flies above, and measures for, the flat Earth.

Not one single REAL industry considers Earth as a ball, for ANY of their operations, they all consider Earth flat. You need to make up excuses, and non-existent forces, a non-existent 'continent', a non-existent 'true north point', and countless lies, all in an utterly hopeless attempt to keep your ball Earth lie going....

The result is a mess of contradicting claims, changing claims, completely dropping claims, and denying anything has ever changed!

Astronomers have never once mentioned Saturn's constant, endless spinning and wobbling, because they (somehow) 'knew' it was all caused by an 'atmospheric effect', and they DID mention that atmospheric effects have occurred during observations of Saturn.

That's your fairy tale story, created to try and account for your 'gods', hiding the truth about Saturn for centuries now!

Like usual, this lie fails miserably. If there actually WAS such an effect of atmosphere, it would ALSO have been mentioned before, as a very unique, very dynamic effect, which would make ALL OTHER effects of atmosphere pale by comparison.

There's NO CHANCE that if anyone thought it was an atmospheric effect, when they first saw Saturn spinning and wobbling, that it wouldn't have been mentioned, as a newly 'discovered' 'effect of atmosphere'!

It has NEVER been mentioned as an 'atmospheric effect', of course. They've never talked about a 'spinning and wobbling' effect of the atmosphere, it's never been documented as an 'effect', so then you're excuse is 'all astronomers know about this as an atmospheric effect, it doesn't need to be mentioned as a 'specific' effect or something!'

'I know what they thought about it', and 'obviously, they knew it was an atmospheric effect', and 'it's a well known effect of atmosphere', with 'it doesn't have to be mentioned, specifically', and 'they have mentioned it, as 'an atmospheric effect'.

The same as 'curvature' of Earth is said to be 8 inches per mile, but nobody teaches it, it's not in schoolbooks, almost as if this 'well known rate of curvature' doesn't even EXIST, or something!

a reply to: turbonium1

The north star lies directly above the magnetic center of Earth,

No it doesn't. I just checked. My compass (a pretty good one) doesn't point at Polaris.

But now that you bring it up, how is it possible on flat earth for the elevation of Polaris to correspond to the latitude of the observer? You never have come up with an answer except for "the Earth is variable." That doesn't really make much sense.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: turbonium1

The north star lies directly above the magnetic center of Earth,

No it doesn't. I just checked. My compass (a pretty good one) doesn't point at Polaris.

But now that you bring it up, how is it possible on flat earth for the elevation of Polaris to correspond to the latitude of the observer? You never have come up with an answer except for "the Earth is variable." That doesn't really make much sense.

Umm, since Polaris is ABOVE the Earth's magnetic center, why would you think your compass should 'point to it'?

That'd be a very strange compass, if it ever DID point up to Polaris!

If I have to explain THAT to you, it's no wonder you still can't understand the elevation issue yet.

One more time - 'latitude' and 'longitude' do NOT exist, they are entirely made up, arbitrary, inconsistent, inaccurate, and constantly REVISED....lines, drawn on a ball Earth model.

The only reason they CAN match up, to such a degree, is because they are based on the actual Earth, which is flat, not a ball.

They used the flat Earth as much as possible, when making a ball version of it.

That's why the ball Earth has so many flaws, a flat surface cannot be shaped into a sphere without problems, inaccuracies, inconsistencies....

It can match up fairly well in the northern regions, where most people live, so that's a nice benefit for the liars. But it doesn't match up so well in the southern regions, but most of that is water, another benefit. Not a benefit to those sailing in the south, though! But that's a whole other issue by itself, of course.

They came across many problems, one of which is blatantly obvious to see....

They couldn't use the magnetic center point of Earth, for their 'ball Earth center', after all. So they made up their OWN 'center', and called it the 'true north point' of their ball Earth.

That's the point nobody uses, nobody COULD use, and never will use, because it's made up BS, just like everything else they make up is, like 'gravity', and 'curvature', among others.



Again, you can't hold up your made up, imaginary, inaccurate 'latitude lines', drawn on your ball Earth, and claim it all matches up to your ball Earth, while it can't match up on the flat Earth!

What I told you, and told you, and I'll tell you one last time, is that the 'lines of latitude/longitude' are BALL EARTH lines, they don't actually EXIST, and you can't plop them into the flat Earth model, and say 'it doesn't match up!'

I know you've got little left to argue about, but come on, this is getting ridiculous!

a reply to: turbonium1

That'd be a very strange compass, if it ever DID point up to Polaris!

You don't understand. My compass points about 11º to the east of Polaris.

One more time - 'latitude' and 'longitude' do NOT exist, they are entirely made up, arbitrary, inconsistent, inaccurate, and constantly REVISED....lines, drawn on a ball Earth model.

Ok. Try drawing concentric circles on your flat little world then. Put them say, 69 miles apart. Then explain to me how at 6,210 miles from the pole Polaris will be on the horizon and at 3,105 miles it will be 45º above the horizon and at 1,552 miles it will be at 60º above the horizon.

See, those concentric circles are also what are known as lines of latitude (you can call them whatever you wish). And sailors have been using them to navigate for a very long time, with the help of Polaris. Just one way they figured out that the world is round. Because on a flat world, it won't work.

a reply to: turbonium1

Magnetic north is not aligned to Polaris. It moves around, just like magnetic south does.

Astronomers have never mentioned SAturn wobbling and spinning like a top because it doesn't. They attribute it's shimmering in their telescopes to atmospheric effects because that's what it is.

The rate of Earth's curvature is taught.

a reply to: turbonium1

Do tell us when latitude and logitude are revised, and tell us about their inaccuracies. Give us the specifics.

Explain to us how it is that someone following a line of 60 degrees north would travel the same distance as someone following the line 60 degrees south, but in your system they would not.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Already answered.
"The Earth is variable."