Absolute Proof the Earth is Round NOT Flat!

a reply to: daskakik

Details like the atmosphere, the geography, the flora and fauna , the palaces, the people and other entities.

I was 22 when I started having the visions.

a reply to: turbonium1
Scripture also says the tower of Babel was getting close to the heavens.

Do you really think people in that time could have built something even close in height to what a modern plane could fly at? I've actually been in one a few times.

How do you prove something isn't there other than sending stuff into space?

originally posted by: AncientHeru
Details like the atmosphere, the geography, the flora and fauna , the palaces, the people and other entities.

Where did you get these details because the bible doesn't seem to give those types of details.

I was 22 when I started having the visions.

Lot's of time for hearing tales from all over the world.

a reply to: daskakik

dude saw the northern lights and it made him belief in a flat earth...

How does one make that connection?

a reply to: Akragon
The mention of sleep disorder makes me think it wasn't the northern lights. Also, we have no idea of the location and they are not visible just anywhere.

You do have a point though, people can trip on some hard stuff and experience other worlds, dimensions or realms but they don't come back flatearthers.

a reply to: Akragon

How could I see the northern lights during the daytime in Los Angeles?

What I saw saved me and turned me religious.

I think the surface of the earth is more akin to the surface of a flower.

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

You know where you keep whining that surveyors don't account for curvature? You know you;ve been proven wrong on that right? How many pages of links do I need to post proving that you're lying again?

www.flatironsinc.com...

Of course, the surveyor must be familiar with mathematics, especially the application of trigonometry. Most traditional surveying is which does not take into account the curvature of the earth. For most surveying projects, the curvature of the earth is slight enough that the effects can be ignored, greatly simplifying the calculations involved. For projects involving greater distances, the curvature of the earth must be taken into account; this is geodetic surveying, an application of geodesy.

www.sciencedirect.com...

Geodetic surveys cover large areas of the Earth’s surface with measurements over long distances, where curvature is significant and taken into account to reach a high accuracy.

www.civillead.com...

Geodetic surveying...is the type of surveying in which the curvature of the Earth is taken into account

www.hydrometronics.com...

www.ngs.noaa.gov...

This is complete BS, created to support their ball Earth lie.


I'm referring to real surveying, of real projects, not made up BS like that!

They claim that 'the effects of curvature' on most projects are 'slight enough', to ignore them completely! As if no 'curvature' even existed!


What exactly are the 'effects'? No idea, since they don't mention anything about it! But they say it can be 'ignored', anyway!


They've claimed to KNOW 'curvature', and it's rate of curvature, but if so, they never use it, or account for it, while they are saying that it has some sort of unmentioned 'effects', all of which can be ignored by our surveyors completely!


If this doesn't sound like a pile of BS, then what DOES?

originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

I know I wasn't there. Thats why I said its he said she said.

Except it's not. My version (which as arrived at exactly the same conclusions as a number of other people) is based on facts. Yours is based on hearsay. For someone so down on relying on second hand sources, you seem pretty convinced by the one you read.

I read your "research,"

Aww bless, you put some nice passive aggressive quote marks as a way of dismissing something you didn't understand. Tell me, what "research" did you do on this subject? I'm willing to bet clicking my link doubled the amount you'd read about it.

it wasn't convincing in the least bit.

Your lack of belief does not invalidate it. Point out anything I've got wrong.

Your certain no moon rocks were given out on the moon tour,

I am.

I guess you know what goes on behind closed doors now.

You seem pretty convinced you know, what makes your interpretation of events more convincing?

I don't know what happened but the entire story is highly suspect. Unless you were there, or talked to the ambassadors and the museum yourself, your research means nothing.

You should have stopped at "I don't know". What you've done is draw a conclusion based on precisely nothing and then doubled down on it despite being given evidence to the contrary. My examination of the facts is far more than you've done and agrees with that carried out by others, so I think my conclusion carries more weight.

Have they tested the new rocks enclosed in the plastic yet?

The "new" rocks were collected 50 years ago. The samples from which they were drawn have been intensively studied by scientists form many disciplines in many countries. I have many volumes of conference proceedings that detail the results of those studies.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Also, it doesn't really take "testing" to recognize petrified wood.

a reply to: turbonium1

You;'ve been shown real projects, you still bitched about it being BS. Everything is BS accordsing to you. You're up to your eyeballs in BS I'm surprised you aren't choking on it.

If you'd bothered to check the links you've been given have found realworld examples.

You claimed surveying doesn't acount for curvature and that it wasn't taught. You;ve been proven wrong about that, but you still make the claim. That makes you a liar. Thou shalt not bear false witness.

a reply to: Phage

Indeed. All it took was an actual geologist to look at it through the glass in the display case.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: turbonium1
Scripture also says the tower of Babel was getting close to the heavens.

Do you really think people in that time could have built something even close in height to what a modern plane could fly at? I've actually been in one a few times.

How do you prove something isn't there other than sending stuff into space?

To send rockets directly upward, and see if they keep flying up and up, until a mere speck in the skies, or if they hit a barrier while in our sight, and spin off sideways.

Everyone of us, on both sides of the issue, have never seen a rocket fly up, the whole time, to see what happens - does it keep flying up and up, like you believe it would, or does it hit some barrier, and stops flying upward, as I believe it would?


That would prove what is true, and what is false, once and for all, right?

a reply to: turbonium1

To send rockets directly upward, and see if they keep flying up and up, until a mere speck in the skies, or if they hit a barrier while in our sight, and spin off sideways.

What a waste of resources that would be. Just as with the laser gyro, there would be yet more rationalizing.

That would prove what is true, and what is false, once and for all, right?

Once and for all, the world is round and there is no "firmament." There is, however, an ionosphere.

a reply to: turbonium1
It was already explained. Small project, less than 100 meters long, the effect of the curvature is 6/100ths of an inch and if there is a margin of 1 inch, those 6/100ths are insignificant.

Say you are placing utility poles every 50 meters and you measure for each one. The effect of the curvature is 3/100ths but the road side rises and dips a few yards at each spot, those 3/100ths are insignificant and you can can go for tens of miles like that.

Honestly, it seems you just don't have the imagination to grasp how these things work. Probably less than 1% of projects actually need the type of accuracy where the curvature needs to be taken into account.

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

You;'ve been shown real projects, you still bitched about it being BS. Everything is BS accordsing to you. You're up to your eyeballs in BS I'm surprised you aren't choking on it.

If you'd bothered to check the links you've been given have found realworld examples.

You claimed surveying doesn't acount for curvature and that it wasn't taught. You;ve been proven wrong about that, but you still make the claim. That makes you a liar. Thou shalt not bear false witness.

They don't account for it, they even said that, so don't lie about it. Want to see proof of that, so you don't keep lying about it?

And it's not taught either. What do you think they are taught about it? The rate of curvature? Where is that mentioned? Show me that, and prove that you aren't just lying again....

We'll soon know who the real liar is here, without a doubt.

a reply to: turbonium1

Show me that, and prove that you aren't just lying again....

You can register here:
www.lonestar.edu...

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Like I said if you weren't there then you have no idea.

I have read about the dutch moon rocks, both sides of the story, and I came to the conclusion that no knows exactly what happened.

I understood your research perfectly, its a guessing game, its not a fact.

I'm not concerned about that situation, lunar meteorites have been found on the earth so its not a big deal.

a reply to: AncientHeru

Like I said if you weren't there then you have no idea.

You mean inside your head?
You're right.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: turbonium1

To send rockets directly upward, and see if they keep flying up and up, until a mere speck in the skies, or if they hit a barrier while in our sight, and spin off sideways.

What a waste of resources that would be. Just as with the laser gyro, there would be yet more excuses.

That would prove what is true, and what is false, once and for all, right?

Once and for all, the world is round and there is no "firmament." There is, however, an ionosphere.

Then why don't they prove it, and send rockets straight up, to prove us wrong, once and for all? To say, space is really endless, no firmament exists, and all of us have seen it, with our own eyes, many times now!


You make up lame excuses, instead.

a reply to: turbonium1

Then why don't they prove it, and send rockets straight up, to prove us wrong

Because "you" don't matter in the least.