Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

There is no new religion going on. This comes from the MILITARY. Their ONLY concern is the maintenance of the Defense industry. Look at the history.

Just ask yourself this. Where do they go after the military? Usually defense industry.

So TTSA goes down and the Russian threat goes up? Coincidence?

Space force money goes up after TTSA? Coincidence. Space force. Alien threat?

After 2017 the defense budget goes up more than 5 percent every year after.
Maybe my clownish post, which I’m still laughing at myself(self-amusement) shielded the facts on that post.

Look at it logically and reasonably, based on empirical evidence:

From the perspective of any real “disclosure”, we all waited but nothing came but a very conventional line where the government and congress began to take it seriously, but nothing new about the reality of ufos has come about from any knowing source.

So, it apparently wasn't about any disclosure, part or whole, so what else can it be when ex-military, ex-CIA, and a gung-ho love the military old rock guy running around playing junior James Bond be but a military op?

Nothing too deep or sinister just run-of-the-mill maintenance of the military-industrial complex.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

I don't disagree with anything you said,

but so many PEOPLE try to turn things into religions,
even if that was not the intent.

So many people want spiritual ascension / religous salvation /
alien masters / alien overlords ---- one and all are the same
Joseph Campbell / Jungian arcehtype ---- SKY DADDIES.

People are just DYING for proof of physicallty real UFOS,
and the government could talk NONSTOP for 70 years that
its not true.

and YET

The religion would form... it did. 'UFO-related religions' are listed
in various compendiums on religion by religious scholars, and i'm not
just talking Heavens Gate and similar... the pull on people to
turn 'UFOs' into a religion is STRONG.

Whether there is anyting there or not.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Sure in ufology as a whole it did create a culture of ufo cults in droves...

But I don’t see any religions coming from TTSA. Ufology sure was advanced but they had already reached the ufo meme standard and all they did was make more podcast-ufology and cable-ufology shows increase, with a new narrative of THREAT.

THREAT= What? More money for defense. It's that simple, not complicated!

I think they particularly wanted to downplay that part of ufology since Zondo never went into the more spooky alien elements as far as I’ve recalled.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Sure in ufology as a whole it did create a culture of ufo cults in droves...

But I don’t see any religions coming from TTSA. Ufology sure was advanced but they had already reached the ufo meme standard and all they did was make more podcast-ufology and cable-ufology shows increase, with a new narrative of THREAT.

THREAT= What? More money for defense. It's that simple, not complicated!

I think they particularly wanted to downplay that part of ufology since Zondo never went into the more spooky alien elements as far as I’ve recalled.

I've heard people who know zondo speak about the supernatural element
in private, but yes, absolutely, TTSA didn't push it much after the very
beginning.

yah, I was talking about UFOLogy and religion in general, not about
TTSA.

I rarely think about TTSA anymore.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
There is no new religion going on. This comes from the MILITARY. Their ONLY concern is the maintenance of the Defense industry. Look at the history.
Just ask yourself this. Where do they go after the military? Usually defense industry.
So TTSA goes down and the Russian threat goes up? Coincidence?
Space force money goes up after TTSA? Coincidence. Space force. Alien threat?
After 2017 the defense budget goes up more than 5 percent every year after.
Maybe my clownish post, which I’m still laughing at myself(self-amusement) shielded the facts on that post.

I think it's more complicated than that ...
Spiritual purpose or defense funds don't convince me
They are providing clues that do not point in any direction
To get money they should involve public opinion instead they only involve us

a reply to: gippo888

I don't see any clues coming out of any of this UAP
business, other than "don't trust the US government"

Kev

a reply to: gippo888


What clues do you mean?

a reply to: peaceinoutz
For example the UFO shown in the conference at the congress
For ufologists it is a very important event (a ufo confirmed by the Pentagon), for public opinion it means nothing.

a reply to: gippo888

Could you link to that 'UFO' ?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Thanks,

Kev

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: gippo888

I don't see any clues coming out of any of this UAP
business, other than "don't trust the US government"

Kev

QFT.

The main disclosures seem to be:

Did you know we run SAP's? How about USAPS? ...or what about carved out USAPs?

Did you know large swathes of people employed by the taxpayer in government roles use their positions to further their own personal and business interests?

Did you know that if we discovered a NHI threat - we'd use all the wrong people to assist us with the problem and none of our time tested specialist MASINT experts and infrastructure.
(Hint- There's probably a guy in NG's quantum tomography lab who can help out with those CRADA materials).

Did you know that UFO's only started to become an issue in 2004?

Did you know we have a load of PhD's who all agree the perturbation of space is the key to next gen propulsion - and some of them have forgotten how to use the inventions secrecy act?


IMO ...the only reason you'd even attempt to pretend you are this incapable- is because you are covering up your true capability.

a reply to: Jukiodone

Yes, don't forget that UAPTF could only work out what one of all the UAPs were in their report too. This is the nation that keeps spending more than the rest of the developed world on arms yet is unable to win wars. America has rarely won a war on its own and has had particular problems in Asia against technologically inferior opponents. The people at the top of the US Military have had a policy of appearing incompetent for over 75 years on the grandest of stages. Maybe they really are stupid?

a reply to: gippo888

If you want a clue to why US intelligence run crazy stories about UFOs and aliens then take a deep dive into the Paul Bennewitz case.

But trying to lump UFOs into one easy to solve category is a mistake. Its like trying to blame death solely on one cause.

a reply to: Jukiodone

Personally I hve no interest in what technological capabilities the
US MiC has or does not have, as it is not relevant to my own
field of study, which has little or nothing to do with all this
human, confused poking and prodding, that will some day
cause a 'Childhood's End Effect'.

But yes, I see you understand the USG pretty well.

;-)

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: gippo888
If you want a clue to why US intelligence run crazy stories about UFOs and aliens then take a deep dive into the Paul Bennewitz case.

I remember the Bennewitz case, it is a proof that US intelligence has always been involved in UFOs
But it was just debunking ...

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
Could you link to that 'UFO' ?
I have no idea what you are talking about.
Thanks,
Kev

Sorry, I only have links to Italian articles ... a uap near an F-18
In congressional hearing Scott Bray shows a video of a UAP, an unpublished case

a reply to: gippo888

This is the link:

www.c-span.org.../ufo-video

So let me ask you:

Which of the following do you find interesting:

1) that glob of dirt on the window that lense flares?
2) that cumulus strattus cloud?

I just don't see anything more than that.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
This is the link:
www.c-span.org.../ufo-video
So let me ask you:
Which of the following do you find interesting:
1) that glob of dirt on the window that lense flares?
2) that cumulus strattus cloud?
I just don't see anything more than that.

In two frames we see a spherical object
Haven't you talked about it on this forum?

Here you can see the frame:

phys.org...

a reply to: gippo888

I don't see anything anomalous or unusual.

Now mind you, my eyesight is poor.

Also, anything capable of being photo'ed would be human made,
if there was some object.

I'm not intersted in human aeronautics.

I would be interested in whether MM or other disinformation
researcher had an opinion.

Thanks,

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

a reply to: gippo888

in the other video that looked like a spot of dirt with lens flare.

that one looks like a raindrop.

But let's say there is some object there...

so what?

Does that blob have some significance for you?

Now mind you, I've had a CE5, so I know what the real thing is,

how it works, where it's from, what it means..

Perhaps I'm not the right person to respond to you about
this topic, my apologies.

Kev