who say china is not copying

Ok ok....I only explained the Europeans because someone didn't understand a joke that i made.

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The Humvee is a weapon, your car is not. If your car was a weapon, then the US military would be driving marines around in cars, instead of Humvees.

Do you see the US marines driving around in Iraq in your car?

ok, so by your logic the Jeep is a weapon as well

The Hummer isn't a weapon it is a utility vehicle - big difference.

i am just saying that technology is near copy of the hummvee

and for who say it is licenced copy must read given link

i am not making any huy&cry just making my point toward chines product

This only makes perfectly good sense.

1. Let the US spend all their money on research and development to produce the best weapons/vehicles

2. Copy what the US does

3. Sit back and spend the money you saved on extra vehicles/weapons.

While this is a clone of the Humvee, it doesn't meant that China lacks intelligence in copying. If anything it shows intelligence in realizing that the US has a grasp on what works best.

The US is in talks with China, because China is stealing Intellectual Properties from the US.


Flawed Laws

Though China now has intellectual property laws, they have widely been criticized as being insufficient, flawed, under-enforced, and bias towards domestic companies.

By far the greatest concern that foreign companies and their lawyers have over Chinese patent laws are the wide loopholes, which some see being deliberate, that exist. Some of which can render foreign products ‘Chinese’ on a no questions asked basis, grant and the infringing companies the full backing of the Chinese courts.

The reasons for much of the concern is that, under current domestic law, Chinese companies are not required to prove that their product or deign is new or innovative when they come to patent it. This makes it far easier and cheaper for a Chinese company to register a patent than their foreign counterparts, but also creates a loophole that allows Chinese companies to simply present a few documents and 're-register' foreign products in China, enabling them to claim domestic patent ownership over foreign products
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"China seems to have taken the term free trade to an extreme," said DeFazio. "Not only are successful small U.S. businesses like Videx being ripped off by Chinese companies, but corporate giants like General Motors have seen their products counterfeited, with no reprimand from the Chinese government or world governing bodies.
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First, I would like to present some of the basic facts of the United States-China trade relationship. The emphasis of supporters of unconditional renewal of MFN status for China is not unexpectedly focused on our exports to China, it is important also to focus on China's exports to the United States. While overall United States exports to China have tripled in the last 10 years, United States imports from China have grown by 11 times, resulting in a trade deficit with China that has grown from $10 million in 1985 to $35 billion in 1995. $35 billion.

Another alarming feature of this trade pattern is the 4-to-1 ratio of what we buy from China to what they buy from us. The United States is China's largest export market, with over a third of their exports coming into our market with preferential trade treatment. Our products, by and large, are not allowed into the Chinese market. These barriers to market access contribute to the trade deficit.

And lest we think that the nearly $12 billion of exports that we send to China is a big number, consider this China, with 1.28 billion people, buys just under $12 billion.

Taiwan, with 23 million people, buys nearly $20 billion from the United States. So the access to the Chinese markets is a major obstacle in our trade relationship.
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if take another view
what is china has done
they knew that USA is going to be very frustated
but they aften do this to keep USA busy in other thing rather than MTCR+NPT.

"east or west India is the west?"........

it is hard swllowed by some but what is true is true

Don't know what's wrong with copy?
Even Bill Gates also say: Copy Right.
Our body is copies of a single cell (A miscopying called cancer).
A F-22 is a copy of another one.
A F-16s going to sold is a copy from USA.
If a note does work without any problem, who (most of us, don't say you are not) care where it's copied?
A copied China arm................You care? Are you sure?

from rogue1
ok, so by your logic the Jeep is a weapon as well

The Hummer isn't a weapon it is a utility vehicle - big difference.

A weapon of war is something that can be used to aid you on a battlefield. Take the APC for instance, it's role is to transport troops across the battlefield. The Hummer is used as a rapid-response vehicle for mechanised infantry.

This is the new area of modernisation, A weapon of war doesn't have to have a big gun. This also means that it can be used for civilian purposes, hence the term "dual-use" technology.

from spittingcobra]
First, I would like to present some of the basic facts of the United States-China trade relationship. The emphasis of supporters of unconditional renewal of MFN status for China is not unexpectedly focused on our exports to China, it is important also to focus on China's exports to the United States. While overall United States exports to China have tripled in the last 10 years, United States imports from China have grown by 11 times, resulting in a trade deficit with China that has grown from $10 million in 1985 to $35 billion in 1995. $35 billion.

This isn't hard to understand, China is a developing country with cheap manual labour, hence cheap producets. The US is a developed country which now outsources it's market so that they are sold cheaper internally. As China develops, so will the number of products it imports.

Also, China runs huge budget deficits with pretty much everyone in Asia.

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Now going back on topic.

The Hummer uses licensed parts from Daimler-Chrysler, (eg. the engine, etc). It is made by the Dongfeng motor company under license.

Guys, grow up.

Stop whining about simple facts of life. If something works well, it will be copied then improved upon. That's how all improvements in life are made, there are rarely made by the inventor.

"Anything is a weapon if you swing it right".
Besides, we have all seen the GTA the vehicles in there are pretty effective weapons!

Rapier28,

While I may not agree with some of your statements, most of what I have read from you is well founded: one vote for way above from me for you .

Blobber

Teacher,he copied my drawing!!!


Will you guys wake up, you are behaving like little kids, there is nothing wrong with copying, and besides, China is basically manufacturing them under license, with USA's APPROVAL, YES, APPROVAL!

If you guys like to whine about copying so much,then think about all your guns. If not for copying chinese gunpowder,you guys would not have any guns at all. And,if not for German help, you would never have the air superiority that you have now.

You have voted W4rl0rD for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have one more vote left for this month.

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any one find more chines copy of others product post it here

It's actually the Japanese that copies more. The modern Japanese language often used words copied from English written in Katakana. Most of their military equipment are very close to the US as well, for example the destroyers and fighters. During the beginning of the 20th century, both Japan and China were invaded by Europeans, the Japanese decided to copy the Europeans but the Chinese refused to do so and decided to continue living like nothing happened. The way of thinking in China at that time was highly philosophical while the thinking of the Westerners took a more pragmatic approach, and they didn't like that, which is why they didn't copy. Well, that became their downfall, because Japan managed to get way ahead using copied Western technology and decided to take over all of East Asia including China. It was later on that the Chinese decided "ok the Japanese did so well by copying maybe we should do the same" and so today they copy a lot.

However, this is only temporary imo. They only need to copy for a short while to catch up, like following through textbook examples of math questions in order to do the rest yourself. The truth is the Chinese do not like copying, but in order to catch up they have to do this. They would much rather prefer their own technology and designs but like that math example, you can't suddenly start doing math questions you've never seen without following through textbook examples.

Even in Chinese language, words phoenitically copied from other languages are short lived and soon replaced by new words that are more ideological, which suits the nature of the Chinese language.

I am opposed and angered by Chinas copying, but its nothing big as they cant cay everything ; ) Read Below.

They can copy all they want all the stuff they are copying is old tech, as long as they don't copy what’s being developed by our "Black Projects" then were ok, you cant catch up if someone is always ahead of you.

Of course. China cannot hope to catch up unless they ask for help from the aliens!

Is that guy in your avaatar an alien..Green humanoid he looks like..

No, he's a human guy wearing a helmet with blue tint.