Corona Virus Updates Part 6

Would somebody like to have a go at this please?



Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel

Well that’s just great. I imagine the research will last awhile. Who knows though, maybe they’re including the looming Covid zombie apocalypse. Or all the new strains coming out, maybe the big one is yet to come.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

I think this is simply a hopeful targeted date ;

nationalfile.com...

March 3, 2021

Revision: Fewer than 6% of US Covid-19 deaths caused solely by Covid-19.

The CDC has changed many webpages to prevent doing a copy/paste of information.

But If you look at the revised small print in the "comorbidities" section of the page, you'll see where the CDC explains that more than 94% of deaths classified as Covid-19 were not caused by Covid-19 as a stand-alone condition.

Source: www.cdc.gov...

In other words, LESS/FEWER THAN 6% of deaths classified as being caused by Covid-19, were caused SOLELY by Covid-19.

Medical providers made a killing from fabricated Covid-19 deaths. (See Congressional testimony of CDC Director Robert Redfield. July 2020.)

a reply to: angelchemuel

More reason to fight this crap any way humanity can, we are humans not computer software, this is despicable, save the children from this violation of humanity.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc
Came from here apparently...
Link to document

Rainbows
Jane

Well, I have some happy news!
I did an antibody test yesterday and not long had my results back!
I have antibodies!

From: Megan (04/03/2021 - 17:18)
Please find below details of your test results.
Your COVID-19 antibody blood result was Positive. This means that IgG and IgM antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2 virus were detected in your sample.
These antibodies are present in the late stages of infection and may remain for up to months and possibly years after recovery, meaning that you have or recently have had COVID-19.

Happy as a pig in muck! No bloomin' jab for me.

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel

Wow! Yay for you!!

How did you happen to decide to take an antibody test? Had you been ill at some point and not known whether it was Covid-19?

a reply to: angelchemuel
Congratulations.
I wouldn't want to get vaccinated either if I got tested positive for antibodies.
I'm not recommending that or suggesting that you do, by mentioning this, but I see people still saying that people who test positive for antibodies may still want to get vaccinated, like this source for example where the introduction says updated March 1, 2021:

COVID-19 Q&A

A person who had COVID-19 and recovered may be at risk of becoming infected again. Past infections may bring about some natural immunity, however, it is not known how protective natural immunity is or how long that protection would last. A vaccine may offer longer-term protection from COVID-19 than natural immunity.

I take it you were asymptomatic? If so, if getting infected the first time was no big deal, so even if the vaccine did provide more protection, maybe getting re-infected in your case will also be no big deal...unless it's a different and more problematic strain or whatever. I don't really know how well the natural immunity and antibodies work on strains other than the one you contracted. I would hope they work pretty well, but I'm not sure.

a reply to: lostgirl
Being a therapist I believed I contracted it on numerous occasions between November 2019 and March 2020.
Each time lasted about 48 hours and seemed to be a different symptom, but never had the cough though. I'm a smoker so that's a whole different story about nicotine and ACE2 receptors.

I'm already blessed with a pretty good immune system, but a system with a couple of glitches.
I wanted to follow what was purely a gut instinct and knowing my own body. Also I had very weird symptoms back in November and I knew I had not been in contact with anyone. So I began thinking about the fact I had Glandular Fever way back when I was in University and have read paper after paper that Covid can trigger the EBV virus, which can lay dormant. But when 'triggered' by the covid virus it can give you the ME/CFS symptoms almost identical to Long Haul Covid recoverees.

My gut instincts and knowledge as a therapist bore me out. so now I am quite happy once I get back to work because even if clients have decided to take the vaccine but could stil contract and shed, I know I have more than a fighting chance and each time I get a VL I am building even more antibodies.
The advantage I have ocer those vaccinated is that I will more likely know when I'm sick as I will get a little sick as opposed to those vaccinated who wont know they are.
So in a weird psychological way, I feel safer around people who have natural antibodies than those who have had the vaccine.
Hope that makes sense
Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: Arbitrageur
Thank you!
Because of my result I dug even deeper today and interestingly I came across a paper that said it is now suspected that those who contracted SARS back in 2003 will already have basic building blocks for immunity to SARS-CoV2 which is as you know the virus that causes Covid19. I can't tell you if I got SARS back in 2003, but I do believe there is a correlation between having had EBV helped fight off in some strange way the Covid. I'm looking at that from the opposite direction to the norm.
I believe I have contracted it a few times. As to VL it could have been little bit each time or my immune system which I maintain is a tough cookie coped with a higher VL.
No, I was not asymptomatic. Please also see my response to lostgirl above.

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel

Thanks for the details, Jane - very interesting!!

It's great that your 'gut instincts' (and therapy knowledge) were on target, and I think you're right regarding 'natural antibodies' vs 'the vaccine'...but that would just be 'my' gut agreeing with yours, Lol.

originally posted by: TheAMEDDDoc
a reply to: angelchemuel

Well that’s just great. I imagine the research will last awhile. Who knows though, maybe they’re including the looming Covid zombie apocalypse. Or all the new strains coming out, maybe the big one is yet to come.

From what I have seen concerning how this has been handled from the start, if this thing mutates into something a lot deadlier than what it is now, we are all thoroughly screwed. Between all the lies, one-upmanship, people jockeying for political and financial advantages, and all around general "can't find their butts with both hands", if it weren't so darn serious it would be comical. IMHO.

From that Covid 19 Q&A quote:

originally posted by: Arbitrageur
a reply to: angelchemuel
A person who had COVID-19 and recovered may be at risk of becoming infected again. A vaccine may offer longer-term protection from COVID-19 than natural immunity.

Isn't it possible to be re-infected with another strain after having the vaccine? Time will tell and no matter the current news spin it's doubtful that enough time has elapsed to truly tell how 'universal' the vaccines are. Likewise using the word ‘may’ in their statement infers that it also ‘may' not. If i had the antibodies i'd steer clear of the vaccine, at least for now. But that's just my opinion and everyone should have their own on this.

a reply to: McGinty
That's the problem isn't it? They don't know.
However I read a paper the other day where researchers have found a possible link to SARS-CoV.....as in 2003 outbreak. They think that there is a very strong possibility, that people who contracted the original SARS will have the 'basic building blocks' to fight off SARS-CoV-2.
I was determined to have the anti-body test and prayed that the antibodies would show, even though I have only had mild symptoms and only one at a time. Now I have something to back me up when I say "nein, mein herr".

Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: McGinty
"nein, mein herr".

Lol, indeed!

I’m delighted for you, that you persisted with this and it’s born fruit. Personally I think/hope there’s a legacy relationship that could stretch even further back than 2003. I had serious post viral conditions in 1989/90 which had Covid like symptoms (severe cough with asthma like difficulty breathing for around 4 months. Then again in 2003 which immediately preceded my seronegative arthritis autoimmune condition. Both followed the ‘flu’ and it seems there were U.K. outbreaks of H3N2 in those years. Like you I’m hoping that the silver lining is that these were indeed bouts of H3N2 and that H3N2 has enough rudimentary similarities to Covid to provide a defence. Though, the obvious hole in my logic is if they were both H3N2 then having it twice would undermine the whole notion of infection leading to long term protection. But that’s wishful thinking for you!

If you don’t mind me asking, how did you go about getting your antibody test?

a reply to: McGinty

The post viral '89/'90 symptoms you had were possibly down to the Chinese flu that went around then and resulted in 'Yuppie Flu' as it was called so different to the SARS in 2003.
I don't mind you asking at all. I ordered mine via Lloyds pharmacy online. Kit arrives, you do the prick thing for your blood and post it off (postage covered) to a lab in London. I got my results in 24 hours of sending it off. Another fellow therapist used Superdrug one. Went to same lab in London. Her test came back negative even though she was convinced she's had it.
I have wondered whether because she is 20 years younger than me she wouldn't have been exposed to the '89/90 outbreak like us 'oldies'.

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel
Thanks for the info, I’ll look into that!

Btw, it’s not the age, it’s the mileage. Though I’m not sure that improves the figure!

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: McGinty
Now I have something to back me up when I say "nein, mein herr".

Rainbows
Jane

If your going to say that then you may as well just have the jab.

Due to consequences refusal of the jab will be the domain of the TRUE christian or at least the aspiring christian as the type of persecution that will follow a no thanks will certainly convince the (im not doing it) others to tow the line.

So unless your a staunch christian which you clearly are not calling TPTB your lord then you may as well get it. The people worldwide have folded and never will have the numbers to stave of enforcement.