Data Will Expose the Covid Conspiracy

Oh, sorry - I made a mistake. The figure I was looking at was the crude death rate, not the actual deaths recorded. *facepalm*

It was 1,945 deaths per 100,000 theoretical cases of pneumonia. Don't know what I was thinking. Still, the point is the same - the fatality rate is remarkably similar.

originally posted by: Case74282

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Personally I don't know what's going on.
My Missus is a nurse and at the moment her hospital is empty. (All normal patients have been shipped out).
So are we expecting 1000's of infected people to turn up this week???
I've asked over the last 3-4 weeks all my extended friends/relatives and their friends/relatives and nobody knows anybody who's had/got it.(Although I think my daughter may have had something like it over the Christmas holidays).
The UK are hoping less than 20,000 to die? We get that every year with normal flu so fook knows.???????

It's been clear since the beginning this entire exercise has been a fear campaign. Those who continue to defend their irrational belief are only doing so to support their ego and unwillingness to admit they have been duped into falling for the greatest conspiracy ever perpetrated on this Earth.

This is the most appropriately titled thread on Above Top Secret right now regarding Covid-19. From the beginning the data has exposed this as a lie and the data will continue to expose this as a lie. Within a month when there are not hundreds of thousands of deaths to report on the news narrative will shift to "self isolation and social distancing worked". They will never admit there was never a boogeyman to be afraid of. Only the one in their minds.

Lombardy has had over 6,000 deaths in a matter of weeks, with a lockdown in place.

People denying the data are those claiming this is as hoax or a lie.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Case74282

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Personally I don't know what's going on.
My Missus is a nurse and at the moment her hospital is empty. (All normal patients have been shipped out).
So are we expecting 1000's of infected people to turn up this week???
I've asked over the last 3-4 weeks all my extended friends/relatives and their friends/relatives and nobody knows anybody who's had/got it.(Although I think my daughter may have had something like it over the Christmas holidays).
The UK are hoping less than 20,000 to die? We get that every year with normal flu so fook knows.???????

It's been clear since the beginning this entire exercise has been a fear campaign. Those who continue to defend their irrational belief are only doing so to support their ego and unwillingness to admit they have been duped into falling for the greatest conspiracy ever perpetrated on this Earth.

This is the most appropriately titled thread on Above Top Secret right now regarding Covid-19. From the beginning the data has exposed this as a lie and the data will continue to expose this as a lie. Within a month when there are not hundreds of thousands of deaths to report on the news narrative will shift to "self isolation and social distancing worked". They will never admit there was never a boogeyman to be afraid of. Only the one in their minds.

Lombardy has had over 6,000 deaths in a matter of weeks, with a lockdown in place.

People denying the data are those claiming this is as hoax or a lie.

Italian data and their calculations have been discussed at length in this thread.

Disagree entirely with the above quote.

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Case74282

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Personally I don't know what's going on.
My Missus is a nurse and at the moment her hospital is empty. (All normal patients have been shipped out).
So are we expecting 1000's of infected people to turn up this week???
I've asked over the last 3-4 weeks all my extended friends/relatives and their friends/relatives and nobody knows anybody who's had/got it.(Although I think my daughter may have had something like it over the Christmas holidays).
The UK are hoping less than 20,000 to die? We get that every year with normal flu so fook knows.???????

It's been clear since the beginning this entire exercise has been a fear campaign. Those who continue to defend their irrational belief are only doing so to support their ego and unwillingness to admit they have been duped into falling for the greatest conspiracy ever perpetrated on this Earth.

This is the most appropriately titled thread on Above Top Secret right now regarding Covid-19. From the beginning the data has exposed this as a lie and the data will continue to expose this as a lie. Within a month when there are not hundreds of thousands of deaths to report on the news narrative will shift to "self isolation and social distancing worked". They will never admit there was never a boogeyman to be afraid of. Only the one in their minds.

Lombardy has had over 6,000 deaths in a matter of weeks, with a lockdown in place.

People denying the data are those claiming this is as hoax or a lie.

Italian data and their calculations have been discussed at length in this thread.

Disagree entirely with the above quote.

You can disagree as much as you want.

Reality says otherwise.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

Lombardy has had over 6,000 deaths in a matter of weeks, with a lockdown in place.

People denying the data are those claiming this is as hoax or a lie.

It's not a hoax or a lie. But that's not the point.

The UK has had on average over 50,000 deaths in the last month, the vast majority of whom had come to the end of their natural lives. Testing rates are an embarrassment, but it is likely that up to 50-70% of the UK has already been infected/recovered since Oct/Nov 2019, during which time over a quarter of a million Brits have died.

Depending on which news/radio programmes you follow, you will hear daily death totals expressed as either "with" or "from" Covid-19. The more disreputable sources will lazily or deliberately say "from". How many of those 50,000 UK deaths in March were "from" Covid-19 being in their system, and how many were incidental?

To paraphrase Hamlet, "THAT is the question". And will be the most important global question until the chaos and panic subsides.

a reply to: ScepticScot

No one is denying people are dying from a virus. The proven hoax is that it is a global pandemic because it is not and there is no data to support that no matter how much one attempts to coerce the numbers.

For similar time periods based upon past virus strains making their way through global society this virus doesn't even compare to past outbreaks. Not even close.

This is what is posted on the CDC's National Vital Statistics System (NVSS) -



Even in the US, there are consistency concerns about how deaths are being reported in relation to COVID-19. The fact that the CDC feels it is necessary to say they are working on providing guidance tells you that the numbers may be skewed.

originally posted by: CIAGypsy
This is what is posted on the CDC's National Vital Statistics System (NVSS) -

Even in the US, there are consistency concerns about how deaths are being reported in relation to COVID-19. The fact that the CDC feels it is necessary to say they are working on providing guidance tells you that the numbers may be skewed.

They’ll inflate them to prove a point - almost certainly.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Case74282

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Personally I don't know what's going on.
My Missus is a nurse and at the moment her hospital is empty. (All normal patients have been shipped out).
So are we expecting 1000's of infected people to turn up this week???
I've asked over the last 3-4 weeks all my extended friends/relatives and their friends/relatives and nobody knows anybody who's had/got it.(Although I think my daughter may have had something like it over the Christmas holidays).
The UK are hoping less than 20,000 to die? We get that every year with normal flu so fook knows.???????

It's been clear since the beginning this entire exercise has been a fear campaign. Those who continue to defend their irrational belief are only doing so to support their ego and unwillingness to admit they have been duped into falling for the greatest conspiracy ever perpetrated on this Earth.

This is the most appropriately titled thread on Above Top Secret right now regarding Covid-19. From the beginning the data has exposed this as a lie and the data will continue to expose this as a lie. Within a month when there are not hundreds of thousands of deaths to report on the news narrative will shift to "self isolation and social distancing worked". They will never admit there was never a boogeyman to be afraid of. Only the one in their minds.

Lombardy has had over 6,000 deaths in a matter of weeks, with a lockdown in place.

People denying the data are those claiming this is as hoax or a lie.

Italian data and their calculations have been discussed at length in this thread.

Disagree entirely with the above quote.

You can disagree as much as you want.

Reality says otherwise.

Insightful analysis there. Thank you - I can’t read or observe what’s happening around the world so I’m glad you set me straight.

Fortunately, agreement or disagreement with you will make no difference. The data is what it is.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Case74282

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Personally I don't know what's going on.
My Missus is a nurse and at the moment her hospital is empty. (All normal patients have been shipped out).
So are we expecting 1000's of infected people to turn up this week???
I've asked over the last 3-4 weeks all my extended friends/relatives and their friends/relatives and nobody knows anybody who's had/got it.(Although I think my daughter may have had something like it over the Christmas holidays).
The UK are hoping less than 20,000 to die? We get that every year with normal flu so fook knows.???????

It's been clear since the beginning this entire exercise has been a fear campaign. Those who continue to defend their irrational belief are only doing so to support their ego and unwillingness to admit they have been duped into falling for the greatest conspiracy ever perpetrated on this Earth.

This is the most appropriately titled thread on Above Top Secret right now regarding Covid-19. From the beginning the data has exposed this as a lie and the data will continue to expose this as a lie. Within a month when there are not hundreds of thousands of deaths to report on the news narrative will shift to "self isolation and social distancing worked". They will never admit there was never a boogeyman to be afraid of. Only the one in their minds.

Lombardy has had over 6,000 deaths in a matter of weeks, with a lockdown in place.

People denying the data are those claiming this is as hoax or a lie.

Italian data and their calculations have been discussed at length in this thread.

Disagree entirely with the above quote.

You can disagree as much as you want.

Reality says otherwise.

Actually hot shot - can you tell me how many people typically die in the US daily, annually or from various forms of disease as primary cause of death?

Go ahead and google that (you wont) and then scale that against the Covid death count.

You didn’t read the thread, but this has never been about being flippant regarding loss of life.

What this is about is stating that the fear you’re being fed isn’t validated by the data.

Are you capable of seeing the difference in that?

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Case74282

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Personally I don't know what's going on.
My Missus is a nurse and at the moment her hospital is empty. (All normal patients have been shipped out).
So are we expecting 1000's of infected people to turn up this week???
I've asked over the last 3-4 weeks all my extended friends/relatives and their friends/relatives and nobody knows anybody who's had/got it.(Although I think my daughter may have had something like it over the Christmas holidays).
The UK are hoping less than 20,000 to die? We get that every year with normal flu so fook knows.???????

It's been clear since the beginning this entire exercise has been a fear campaign. Those who continue to defend their irrational belief are only doing so to support their ego and unwillingness to admit they have been duped into falling for the greatest conspiracy ever perpetrated on this Earth.

This is the most appropriately titled thread on Above Top Secret right now regarding Covid-19. From the beginning the data has exposed this as a lie and the data will continue to expose this as a lie. Within a month when there are not hundreds of thousands of deaths to report on the news narrative will shift to "self isolation and social distancing worked". They will never admit there was never a boogeyman to be afraid of. Only the one in their minds.

Lombardy has had over 6,000 deaths in a matter of weeks, with a lockdown in place.

People denying the data are those claiming this is as hoax or a lie.

Italian data and their calculations have been discussed at length in this thread.

Disagree entirely with the above quote.

You can disagree as much as you want.

Reality says otherwise.

Actually hot shot - can you tell me how many people typically die in the US daily, annually or from various forms of disease as primary cause of death?

Go ahead and google that (you wont) and then scale that against the Covid death count.

You didn’t read the thread, but this has never been about being flippant regarding loss of life.

What this is about is stating that the fear you’re being fed isn’t validated by the data.

Are you capable of seeing the difference in that?

The actions being taken are validated by the data.
The forecasts of deaths are 15-20 times higher than that of the seasonal flu.
With the mitigating actions, more like 2-3 times higher.
The data we already have as actuals suggest FAuci's 100-200k death toll is a reasonable forecast (as it's based on reaching a peak of just over 2,000 deaths a day in a couple of weeks time). The US is already at 1,000 deaths a day from Corona Virus.

I have been undecided on this but this evidence is hard to ignore. Even if they classified every death in these towns as covid19 deaths, how can you explain this

Separate data from national statistics office ISTAT showed deaths in the north of Italy doubled in the first three weeks of March compared with the average during the same period between 2015 and 2019, reflecting the onset of coronavirus.

In Bergamo, fatalities more than quadrupled, while they increased between two- and three-fold in several other Lombardy cities. In some small towns at the heart of the outbreak they were up 10-fold this year compared with 2019.

www.reuters.com... 77

To lose 100k people in the 21 day window Trump spoke of, that would require 4761.905 deaths/day - every day for that entire period. Which would bring our death count tied to the virus to slightly over 105k nationally.

By my tracking of worldometer today, my last reading was that we had 706 deaths in the US. I'm going to gross that up to an even 1k deaths in the event I didn't see an update.

If that's remotely correct, we're off to a good start - not even coming close to the 4.7k+ needed. That's a really good thing!

No buts about it, that would be amazing for that trend to continue... lets hope it does... it will likely increase but I'm not going to be shocked if we come in with materially fewer deaths that the country was braced for - and I also hope that's the outcome.

a reply to: EnigmaChaser

To lose 100k people in the 21 day window Trump spoke of,

The projection is for that number to be reached around late May/June. 21 days is about half that number.

If Trump got it wrong, well that's not surprising.

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Case74282

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Personally I don't know what's going on.
My Missus is a nurse and at the moment her hospital is empty. (All normal patients have been shipped out).
So are we expecting 1000's of infected people to turn up this week???
I've asked over the last 3-4 weeks all my extended friends/relatives and their friends/relatives and nobody knows anybody who's had/got it.(Although I think my daughter may have had something like it over the Christmas holidays).
The UK are hoping less than 20,000 to die? We get that every year with normal flu so fook knows.???????

It's been clear since the beginning this entire exercise has been a fear campaign. Those who continue to defend their irrational belief are only doing so to support their ego and unwillingness to admit they have been duped into falling for the greatest conspiracy ever perpetrated on this Earth.

This is the most appropriately titled thread on Above Top Secret right now regarding Covid-19. From the beginning the data has exposed this as a lie and the data will continue to expose this as a lie. Within a month when there are not hundreds of thousands of deaths to report on the news narrative will shift to "self isolation and social distancing worked". They will never admit there was never a boogeyman to be afraid of. Only the one in their minds.

Lombardy has had over 6,000 deaths in a matter of weeks, with a lockdown in place.

People denying the data are those claiming this is as hoax or a lie.

Italian data and their calculations have been discussed at length in this thread.

Disagree entirely with the above quote.

You can disagree as much as you want.

Reality says otherwise.

Insightful analysis there. Thank you - I can’t read or observe what’s happening around the world so I’m glad you set me straight.

Fortunately, agreement or disagreement with you will make no difference. The data is what it is.

Yes theocrats is what it is and it clearly shows the severity of the situation.

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Case74282

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Personally I don't know what's going on.
My Missus is a nurse and at the moment her hospital is empty. (All normal patients have been shipped out).
So are we expecting 1000's of infected people to turn up this week???
I've asked over the last 3-4 weeks all my extended friends/relatives and their friends/relatives and nobody knows anybody who's had/got it.(Although I think my daughter may have had something like it over the Christmas holidays).
The UK are hoping less than 20,000 to die? We get that every year with normal flu so fook knows.???????

It's been clear since the beginning this entire exercise has been a fear campaign. Those who continue to defend their irrational belief are only doing so to support their ego and unwillingness to admit they have been duped into falling for the greatest conspiracy ever perpetrated on this Earth.

This is the most appropriately titled thread on Above Top Secret right now regarding Covid-19. From the beginning the data has exposed this as a lie and the data will continue to expose this as a lie. Within a month when there are not hundreds of thousands of deaths to report on the news narrative will shift to "self isolation and social distancing worked". They will never admit there was never a boogeyman to be afraid of. Only the one in their minds.

Lombardy has had over 6,000 deaths in a matter of weeks, with a lockdown in place.

People denying the data are those claiming this is as hoax or a lie.

Italian data and their calculations have been discussed at length in this thread.

Disagree entirely with the above quote.

You can disagree as much as you want.

Reality says otherwise.

Actually hot shot - can you tell me how many people typically die in the US daily, annually or from various forms of disease as primary cause of death?

Go ahead and google that (you wont) and then scale that against the Covid death count.

You didn’t read the thread, but this has never been about being flippant regarding loss of life.

What this is about is stating that the fear you’re being fed isn’t validated by the data.

Are you capable of seeing the difference in that?

Hot shot? I like that I may adopt that as a new user name...

Most recent number was 2.8 million annual deaths in the US. Google is remarkabley easy to use which is why it so easy to see people down playing this virus are wrong.

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: ScepticScot

Lombardy has had over 6,000 deaths in a matter of weeks, with a lockdown in place.

People denying the data are those claiming this is as hoax or a lie.

It's not a hoax or a lie. But that's not the point.

The UK has had on average over 50,000 deaths in the last month, the vast majority of whom had come to the end of their natural lives. Testing rates are an embarrassment, but it is likely that up to 50-70% of the UK has already been infected/recovered since Oct/Nov 2019, during which time over a quarter of a million Brits have died.

Depending on which news/radio programmes you follow, you will hear daily death totals expressed as either "with" or "from" Covid-19. The more disreputable sources will lazily or deliberately say "from". How many of those 50,000 UK deaths in March were "from" Covid-19 being in their system, and how many were incidental?

To paraphrase Hamlet, "THAT is the question". And will be the most important global question until the chaos and panic subsides.

A numbed of people on this thread and site are claiming it's a lie.

Projections for deaths whith out mitigation measures in the UK were around the 500k mark. That also doesn't cover people who suffer serious health complications and the knock on impact on the health concerns due to the impact on the health and social care system.

It would be great if it was true that a high % already had the virus however the modem that suggested that seems to be the outlier, they authors were very clear that there was insufficient evidence and it doesn't seem consistent with how the virus has developed.

You are absolutely correct about the level of testing.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: EnigmaChaser

To lose 100k people in the 21 day window Trump spoke of,

The projection is for that number to be reached around late May/June. 21 days is about half that number.

If Trump got it wrong, well that's not surprising.

You keep trying to make this about Trump when it's clearly about inaccurate reporting of numbers from sources that are impossible to corroborate. None of your mental gymnastics math can come close to the doom and gloom reporting of the mockingbird media.

No matter how much you want this to be about Trump....sorry man...it never will be. I take it you were a devout disciple of Hillary Clinton. She lost by the way. Time to move on.

a reply to: Case74282

You keep trying to make this about Trump

I am not the one who brought Trump up.

I was pointing out that the fatality projection (right or wrong) is not based on 21 days.

a reply to: Phage

Trump is in your post as well as many other relating to this topic so while you are attempting to do magical math to reach a number that is literally and mathematically impossible to reach to justify the mockingbird media lies you might also want to revisit your obsession with connecting any of this to Trump.

The data is continuing to expose what an absolute lie this has become. More importantly is it exposes the multitude of sheep we have in society today.

Anyone thinking we are not currently living in a police state where our Constitutional rights have been stripped away is either ignorant of the facts or stupid. Meanwhile you want to debate mythical numbers, use your identity politics to blame others and ignore what's really going on. Lulz man...lulz...