Data Will Expose the Covid Conspiracy

Yesterday at a 1:15 est presser Cuomo gave, he said he was worried about Elmhurst getting overwhelmed. They were putting in protocol for other hospitals to assist if that happens with overflow or sending supplies. I assumed , given the way he talks, that all hospitals would be equally overwhelmed and wondering how any of them could take any overflow if they are all full beyond capacity.

a reply to: schmae

Isn't that why the USS Comfort is in the harbor? To admit any potential overflow patients?

originally posted by: CIAGypsy
a reply to: schmae

Isn't that why the USS Comfort is in the harbor? To admit any potential overflow patients?

I had read the USS Comfort was there to take NON- Covid-19 patients who needed to be seen for other medical conditions. I thought this was very odd. Why would you keep positive Covid-19 patients inside a working hospital exposing the general public? Why not quarantine them on a ship?

originally posted by: Case74282

originally posted by: CIAGypsy
a reply to: schmae

Isn't that why the USS Comfort is in the harbor? To admit any potential overflow patients?

I had read the USS Comfort was there to take NON- Covid-19 patients who needed to be seen for other medical conditions. I thought this was very odd. Why would you keep positive Covid-19 patients inside a working hospital exposing the general public? Why not quarantine them on a ship?

That’s my understanding as well - it will treat non-Covid cases.

If you had tons of people dying on a military hospital ship - that means military can’t help. While that’s obvious to all of us, many view the military as our literal last line of defense (and they are - as well as our first line).

There would probably be something unsettling to seeing our military powerless to stop this - and shows weakness to our adversaries.

That said, if you have a broken arm they’re their to treat you and I would bet can provide world-class treatment for most all other conditions outside of Covid. NYC should feel fortunate and hopeful with this kind of medical capability parked at their front door.

a reply to: EnigmaChaser

NYC is very fortunate to get it. Thats 1000 less people who might not otherwise get critical treatment.

The reason the ship isnt used for covid is because it wasnt designed to protect against viral infections. It has ventilated unfiltered air and such. It was built and designed to treat battlefield injuries and isnt adequately outfitted for this situation. It can help with everything else beyond the treatment of viral outbreak patients en masse.

You're correct that the information will come out that exposes everything over time to those that pay attention

But now, clearer than ever before, we live in a world that does NOT pay attention.
And it doesn't really matter if the information comes out.
Because what has occurred has already occurred.
We, a nation of people, that were given the responsibility to maintain the liberty that was given to us by our forefathers, have allowed the government to shut us down out of fear.

It's been done. It's still going on with no end in sight. It cannot be undone.
Even if we "bounce back" from this, those in power now know how easily controlled 330,000,000 are.
They'll do it again and again, and why wouldn't they? We're more than compliant. The people are enforcing it to each other. This couldn't have been more wildly successful to their agenda.
The children of today will expect the government to shut us down over "emergencies".

Errrrkay... so more numerical quandaries here...

Trump said today we’re looking at 100k-240k deaths in the next three weeks.

apnews.com...

As if the time of this writing, we have 2608 deaths in the US from Covid.

www.worldometers.info...

And a grand total of 2972 of “serious/critical cases” are active - or about 60/state.

This is all inside a total number of cases at 145,131 total “confirmed” cases.

Death rate is ~1.8%.

So to get a death toll of 200k, we would need to have ~11.1mm confirmed cases total in the us over the next three weeks at a 1.8% death rate relative to confirmed cases.

Said another way, this would be a 76x increase in confirmed cases. It would also mean that we’d have to test about 528k people a day to reach that figure.

If we run these numbers again with the death toll at 100k, we’d need ~5.6mm new cases. - the rest of the numbers are cut in half. We’d have to test 250k+ people/day for the next 21 days. Or said another way, 1.5x the current total confirmed cases every day for the next 21 days.

That seems entirely outlandish to me.

According to the New Yorker, we should now be in possession of another 17m testing kits:

www.newyorker.com...

So we have the test to get the case count we need for the numbers to play out. But if the article is right... we’ve done

Then there’s the testing center bottleneck:
www.cdc.gov...

Per the New Yorker article, 10m test kits were made available, but from personal experience with my wife at the ER, they were rationing tests. At the same time, other articles were saying we don’t have enough tests... so I’m going to assume we used 80% of that original 10m supply. That’s 8mm total tests in he US. Logic is if we weren’t burning those tests up we wouldn’t need 17m more...

So that mean 8m tests turned into 145,131 cases confirmed and 2608 deaths.

So that means only about a 1.8% “confirmed case” rate relative to tests. So truly very few people have this... and of that, a much smaller fraction die. So that would mean out of the 8mm people, the death rate is .000326 or .0326%.

So If the test to confirmed case to death ratios remained intact - and we used ALL of the tests, we’d see about 8150 deaths total from the virus out of 25mm tests.

If you tested the entire US population, call it 318mm, and ran that death rate out of .000326 you get 103,668 deaths.

So Trumps’s numbers assume we test every American and this “hit rate” holds.

To me, my mind first goes to the obvious - this virus is already super wide spread - many of us have it, are incubating it or already had it. We’ve locked down everything because we know everyone has it and we don’t test everyone to stop a panic from happening even though the numbers that being thrown out and now are understandable here if added to the flu season figures would just make it seem like “a really bad” flu season... interesting.

If the above is true, then we have been lied to on more than one level and this really is about politics and using a crisis as a means to an end.

This is the biological 9/11 - not a dress rehearsal.

Blue state lockdowns like San Fran, DC, Chicago are coming our way - if you live in a blue state good luck!

What we need to pay attention to is what the feds unify us against once this passes. 9/11 was terrorists.

Narrative becomes “we beat this”, unify the country over healing and a reset/rebirth of living and then say “we need to figure out where this came from” or “someone has to pay for the loss of millions of American jobs” or “this was a threat to national security and global security - whoever let this happen will be found out.”

And my money says that entity paying the price will be the Chinese - one way or another.

If you see more reports coming out over the next three weeks that say China did this, their government lies to their people and the world or commentary that someone “must pay” then we’re on to something here.

Interesting angle to consider/watch.

a reply to: EnigmaChaser

More data that exposes what a hoax the fear mongering media campaign is regarding Covid-19

www.cnn.com...

Interesting we never heard any of the staggering numbers listed in this article which VASTLY outpaces and dwarfs the current "pandemic" aka...fear mongering campaign known as Covid-19.

a reply to: Case74282

I thought this was very odd. Why would you keep positive Covid-19 patients inside a working hospital exposing the general public? Why not quarantine them on a ship

The ship does not have enough beds. By a long shot.
So you treat those who are not infected on the ship.

It's not really that complicated.

Personally I don't know what's going on.
My Missus is a nurse and at the moment her hospital is empty. (All normal patients have been shipped out).
So are we expecting 1000's of infected people to turn up this week???
I've asked over the last 3-4 weeks all my extended friends/relatives and their friends/relatives and nobody knows anybody who's had/got it.(Although I think my daughter may have had something like it over the Christmas holidays).
The UK are hoping less than 20,000 to die? We get that every year with normal flu so fook knows.???????

And oh snap it’s already happening - US sanctions on Huawei:

www.cnbc.com...

And magically China’s manufacturing index was positive - even with Covid:

www.cnbc.com...

So miraculously, China starts the virus and is now “back to normal” while the entirety of the western world has serious problems. While I tend to think that’s BS, it’s what appears to be the case.

Interesting times.

This is an interesting data set:

www1.nyc.gov...

Influenza and pneumonia were responsible for 1,945 deaths per 100,000 people in New York in 2017. 1.945%.

COVID-19 is responsible for 1,550 deaths per 75,983 infected people in New York right now. 2.034%.

Influenza has a vaccine. COVID-19 does not. Yet the death rate is remarkably similar. And yes, that does mean that in 2017, 167,717 people died from influenza or pneumonia.

Do we think that 167,717 people are going to die from COVID-19 in New York? Cause I don't.

The only reason why people worry about this is because a) it's new and b) the media hype it up to ridiculous levels. I've never been worried about it - though I was deceived by the CCP at the beginning when I saw some of the clips coming out of China. Then I realised - what's the best way to make people believe something is really bad? Allow 'smuggled' footage to find its way onto the internet in a country where the citizens have to talk by code to get around government censorship. I promise you...the images you saw of people dying on streets were exactly what the CCP wanted you to see.

I consider the whole thing a psyop by the Chinese government to facilitate their Made in China 2025 targets - they were supposed to be at 80% of their pharmaceutical manufacturing target this year...a target they were in danger of missing according to reports. They'll smash it now.

Unfortunately for them, it's going to backfire, because countries are going to pull out of their manufacturing in China. A case of winning the battle but losing the war when it comes to trade.

Is COVID-19 real? Yes.

Are people dying? Yes, and that is always a tragedy. But 95% of those people would have died from regular flu/pneumonia.

Does it warrant the action governments are taking? Not a chance...not unless they shut down every year before the influenza vaccine was created. It's not the flu, but it has a similar set of outcomes to the flu.

In twelve months time, people will look back at this moment as the point where the wheat was really sorted from the chaff when it comes to rational analysis and cognitive thinking.

a reply to: OsirianObsidian
I think because anyone who dies they're blaming it on C19.?

a reply to: UKWO1Phot

If they've got it, then that's exactly what they'll do.

But here's my point - the morgues in NYC have a capacity of 1000, yet 167,717 people died from pneumonia in 2017.

Let's say the flu season runs for 6 months, or 182 days. That means that 921 people were dying per day in New York in 2017 due to influenza and pneumonia. Now of course, anyone who is going to die from flu is going to be in a hospital, on a ventilator, so they will end up in the morgue for at least half a day while the family makes arrangements.

There were no freezer trucks required in 2017. And that's because there wasn't a ridiculous lock down on funeral homes, which I would consider just as essential as a hospital in terms of not only dignity for the deceased, but for simple disease mitigation. If they need to be cremated for health reasons, let them be cremated - the health reasons aren't going to change. Families should have a pretty good idea if their loved one is going to have a good chance of making it or whether they need to have arrangements in place.

Take the necessary precautions and state that it must be a closed casket ceremony or whatever. Have people being tested for the virus before and after the ceremony if you must.

But don't load up bodies on forklifts, FFS.

I find the spectacle that they are making of death - which should be when one is treated with the utmost respect - in order to push the narrative that this is a crisis absolutely disgusting.

No more Italian airport hookers for you.

originally posted by: OsirianObsidian
a reply to: UKWO1Phot

If they've got it, then that's exactly what they'll do.

But here's my point - the morgues in NYC have a capacity of 1000, yet 167,717 people died from pneumonia in 2017.

Let's say the flu season runs for 6 months, or 182 days. That means that 921 people were dying per day in New York in 2017 due to influenza and pneumonia. Now of course, anyone who is going to die from flu is going to be in a hospital, on a ventilator, so they will end up in the morgue for at least half a day while the family makes arrangements.

There were no freezer trucks required in 2017. And that's because there wasn't a ridiculous lock down on funeral homes, which I would consider just as essential as a hospital in terms of not only dignity for the deceased, but for simple disease mitigation. If they need to be cremated for health reasons, let them be cremated - the health reasons aren't going to change. Families should have a pretty good idea if their loved one is going to have a good chance of making it or whether they need to have arrangements in place.

Take the necessary precautions and state that it must be a closed casket ceremony or whatever. Have people being tested for the virus before and after the ceremony if you must.

But don't load up bodies on forklifts, FFS.

I find the spectacle that they are making of death - which should be when one is treated with the utmost respect - in order to push the narrative that this is a crisis absolutely disgusting.

Deaths from pneumonia in NYC were not 167k in 2017.

originally posted by: OsirianObsidian
a reply to: UKWO1Phot

If they've got it, then that's exactly what they'll do.

But here's my point - the morgues in NYC have a capacity of 1000, yet 167,717 people died from pneumonia in 2017.

Let's say the flu season runs for 6 months, or 182 days. That means that 921 people were dying per day in New York in 2017 due to influenza and pneumonia. Now of course, anyone who is going to die from flu is going to be in a hospital, on a ventilator, so they will end up in the morgue for at least half a day while the family makes arrangements.

There were no freezer trucks required in 2017. And that's because there wasn't a ridiculous lock down on funeral homes, which I would consider just as essential as a hospital in terms of not only dignity for the deceased, but for simple disease mitigation. If they need to be cremated for health reasons, let them be cremated - the health reasons aren't going to change. Families should have a pretty good idea if their loved one is going to have a good chance of making it or whether they need to have arrangements in place.

Take the necessary precautions and state that it must be a closed casket ceremony or whatever. Have people being tested for the virus before and after the ceremony if you must.

But don't load up bodies on forklifts, FFS.

I find the spectacle that they are making of death - which should be when one is treated with the utmost respect - in order to push the narrative that this is a crisis absolutely disgusting.

NY averages about 4500 flu/pneumonia deaths per year.

Here it comes- the foundation is being set for the next chapter in all of this:

www.cnbc.com...

Intel community says China fudged their numbers about Covid - no kidding, right?

The logical next step in this narrative, if China is the next Iraq using the 9/11 analogy, is that their fudged numbers led to mass casualties and economic ruin globally.

And they’re going to pay for it - one way or another.

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Personally I don't know what's going on.
My Missus is a nurse and at the moment her hospital is empty. (All normal patients have been shipped out).
So are we expecting 1000's of infected people to turn up this week???
I've asked over the last 3-4 weeks all my extended friends/relatives and their friends/relatives and nobody knows anybody who's had/got it.(Although I think my daughter may have had something like it over the Christmas holidays).
The UK are hoping less than 20,000 to die? We get that every year with normal flu so fook knows.???????

It's been clear since the beginning this entire exercise has been a fear campaign. Those who continue to defend their irrational belief are only doing so to support their ego and unwillingness to admit they have been duped into falling for the greatest conspiracy ever perpetrated on this Earth.

This is the most appropriately titled thread on Above Top Secret right now regarding Covid-19. From the beginning the data has exposed this as a lie and the data will continue to expose this as a lie. Within a month when there are not hundreds of thousands of deaths to report on the news narrative will shift to "self isolation and social distancing worked". They will never admit there was never a boogeyman to be afraid of. Only the one in their minds.