Science indicates evolution of species.

a reply to: Xtrozero

It's simple really, I believe in a creation.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

It's simple really, I believe in a creation.

OK....what creation...how did life come about?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Most probably with a magic wand.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

Most probably with a magic wand.

I can accept your belief...As I said I don't debate faith..

a reply to: Xtrozero

I feel like freeing myself and the theory of evolution doesn't support me in doing so.

The more I acknowledge and live like and talk like a creator god exists the more it seems to manifest in my life.

It's kind of tricky at first, people usually thought there was something wrong with me, and things were wrong just I couldn't really point it out. I let people be and simply am learning life as I could call it.

People are tricky also and sometimes don't like when I try to remain quiet. Some things don't seem to touch me anymore and with time they do not appear anymore in my life. I had to have a lot of patience and I'm still not there, I think.

A new spirit and a new heart is what I'm hoping for cause mine is of inferior quality.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Cancer and HIV are hardly theories nor is the research into such.

Those are plain hard realities just like the diseases they hope to cure by way of understanding the evolutionary process.

a reply to: andy06shake

I know, It's not like I'm 3 years old.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Well, humanity has been around for the past 200,000 years, with our ancestors stretching back to around or about six million years or so, possibly longer.

Point is we all grow before you ask.

a reply to: Peserc

I asked for empirical evidence
Thanks, now go away and stop wasting my time
Wikipedia, this isn’t primary school for children

originally posted by: Peserc
a reply to: Raggedyman

You don't have to be a genius to understand that if we put the species in question into a long enough timetable their traits are going to change enough to be called a new one

Can you show me empirical scientific evidence this is happening, happened

In future, read comprehend what science is before commenting

Seems the genius doesn’t understand basic science. I don’t rate your assumption or opinion

originally posted by: Peserc
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

You can do that, but it doesnt mean evolution is wrong and certainly nobody cares

Persec, stop, think read comprehend

I am not arguing evolution is wrong
I want empirical evidence it’s a true scientific statement

Stop arguing stupid strawman arguments and prove evolution with empirical evidence
I only asked for that, not pretty drawings, not YouTube, not Wikipedia
I asked for empirical evidence
Go work out what empirical scientific evidence before offering childish stuff again

originally posted by: Peserc
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

there are lots of proofs about what you said. If you werent too lazy and biased to read through the articles you wouldve known that.

But its alright, nobody cares if you believe that women came from the ribs of the man.

a reply to: Deplorable

what part of "long enough timetable" you havent understood?

So persec your scientific evidence is

A woman from a mans rib

And given enough time and it’s happening, that’s your science evidence

You are not worth anyone’s time here you know.

originally posted by: Peserc
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Ok, cool. Keep your beliefs, you live in a free country, as far as i know.

a reply to: Deplorable

Yeah, unfortunately we don't have a fly with arms. Sorry.

But now i'm curious, whats your altenative?

So, you have just woken up to not having anything but faith in evolution
But to hide your ineptitude, you try and turn this into an argument about creationist beliefs

We don’t pretend creation is science, hence we don’t need empirical evidence

You should have walked away here

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: cooperton

Beware of the deceptive tactics of the mainstream scientism church

And your point? Does your point suggest chimps and humans do not come from a common ancestor? Does your point suggest all is known and science has long stopped looking? Is you point also science? You say "deceptive tactics" as in they have a reason to hide the truth...is that what you believe?

Why is science still studying evolution, because it’s not settled
Can you show me the empirical evidence chimps and humans have a common ancestor PLEASE
No assumptions, real hard science
Have you got that empirical evidence yet

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

Most probably with a magic wand.

I can accept your belief...As I said I don't debate faith..

You don’t debate faith but

No science to back up evolution, you can’t find any offered any but are blinded by it as a science, what a joke.
Science is a faith, you show me some empirical evidence and you win the whole argument forever

Empirical evidence

As a Christian, I can still be a Christian if evolution is a fact.
You act like evolution changes my life, like I fear evolution

Yet you, you have offered nothing, you act like you know but have nothing at all, nothing

Your evolution is nothing but a faith without empirical scientific evidence

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Cancer and HIV are hardly theories nor is the research into such.

Those are plain hard realities just like the diseases they hope to cure by way of understanding the evolutionary process.

Don’t you mean understanding their mechanisms?
How does something like evolutionary process help when they can’t work out evolutionary process?

Are you saying all mutations are evolution, that would be a little silly, yeah?
I don’t think that’s a great reflection on common sense so I guess I am misunderstanding you, care to elaborate

a reply to: Raggedyman

I'm not a scientist Raggedyman but apparently it has something to do with the evolutionary relationships among species and the principles of natural selection allowing them to study and devise new drugs for our consumption.

The only thing I'm saying about mutations is that animals with positives traits or mutations tend to survive longer and copulate more.

originally posted by: andy06shake

I'm not a scientist Raggedyman but apparently it has something to do with the evolutionary relationships among species and the principles of natural selection allowing them to study and devise new drugs for our consumption.

No drug relies on any postulate in evolutionary theory. Even antibiotics. Microbes become resistant to antibiotics through mechanisms that are already pre-set in their genome. One study attributed antibiotic resistance to an increase in detox pump production... Detox pumps were always present in the microbe's genome, but extra exposure to toxic chemicals (antibiotics) caused the bacterial population to increase production of the detox pump gene. No evolution was necessary, it is a straight-forward response mechanism that is built into the organism to allow it to survive extreme environments.

Antibiotic resistance in a bacterial line is quickly reversible, further indicating it is not evolution.

The only thing I'm saying about mutations is that animals with positives traits or mutations tend to survive longer and copulate more.

Our understanding of positive traits is totally changing. It turns out that you are not doomed to your genetics, instead they are very malleable. Through the same mechanism referred to above with the bacterial line increasing the production of a certain protein, so too can various physiological factors be changed given an altered environment or behavior. There is no evolution involved, it is a responsive mechanism that is built in to all organisms to allow them to be adaptable.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

The more I acknowledge and live like and talk like a creator god exists the more it seems to manifest in my life.

^The golden ticket. Formerly known as the first 3 commandments.

All things fall in line when you are not compromising truth for various desires.

a reply to: cooperton

We are certainly a product of our environment also, every last one of us, evolution or otherwise.

The fact of the matter is that geography and social circumstance generally dictate one's station in life rather than just genetics in this day of age where technology, science, and the infrastructure we have in place allows us to somewhat attempt to tame nature or at least bend it to our will.

But that does not discount evolution as far as I'm aware, the strongest will still attempt to rise to the top of the heap.