Corona Virus Updates Part 5

BREAKING - German customs authority confiscated high-quality #COVID19 respiratory masks and other protective clothing that were apparently supposed to be illegally exported during a check in the European distribution center of the US company 3M in Jüchen.

disclose.tv twitter

Weren't all the masks Trump was raving about at todays briefing coming from 3M?

Comments suggest other shipments of masks were taken as well.

originally posted by: MaverickLRD
It’s astonishing seeing the dozens and dozens of celebrities getting tested but normal people with known exposure and symptoms can’t get a test
We’ve got senators and representatives cashing out from the market pre crash
We’ve got all kinds of horrendous issues with this whole thing

The NBA sure has plenty of tests

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a reply to: MaverickLRD

Well if you had a bad flue, and then you took something and it cured you of your malaise , in this case before testing positive for the virus, then after taking said medicine testing negative. It could be defined as a cure.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: MaverickLRD

Well if you had a bad flue, and then you took something and it cured you of your malaise , in this case before testing positive for the virus, then after taking said medicine testing negative. It could be defined as a cure.

So if I sat at home got the flu and drank whiskey and tested negative a week later that means whiskey was the cure right? /sarcasm

a reply to: ketsuko

That's nice of you and all...if a bit wreckless considering. But the point of bars and restaurants is to socialize, people pay a premium for food and beverage because it gives them a place to congregate. So I suppose altruism is the new motivation? Virus really bringing out the best in people. Except that many customers are likely to be under financial strain soon themselves and so probably won't be giving much away. But if you have the cash to burn Mrs. ketsuko, good on you!

a reply to: SpartanStoic

Hi Spartan, thank you, your family and all the contacts risking everything to get this information out.

IF Wechat is down or totally controlled can the ordinary people organize a light on light off messaging at night. Or putting different colour signs in windows in the day so pictures can be passed around to help alert their neighbours to things going on in different sealed buildings or different sections of the cities.
something simple like --

Even Days -- Green - everyone good -- Yellow - not well -- Red someone died
Odd Days -- Blue - everyone good -- Orange - not well -- black someone died
if a colour is not changed to proper day owner needs help.
or
Lights off at 8pm - Light on 1 minute all good -- light on 2 minute some ill -- light flashing someone died - light back on at 8:03
Lights not off at 8pm or not back on at 8:03 -- someone needs help

If people see things not right will it help or hinder tho --
is there very much that can be done to treat so many people?

Are the things available to ordinary people like herbs and TCM able to help with surviving it?
Before needing a hospital to treat.

it will be like opening a Pandora's box, will a civil uprising be good or bad at this time for the majority?

So many worries for the people living it and for those yet to experience it. - hope something can be found soon before things turn extremely nasty.

a reply to: puzzled2

Nice idea about the coloured paper or something.

However, everyone may not be synced up for time so that wouldn't be reliable.
Plus it's such a small window of opportunity to get as much info as needed.

However, you could colour a light in a room following the same code.

a reply to: puzzled2

Thanks for the kind words.

I will pass that info to our friend who has family in Wuhan. I’m sure they have something clever in place but we aren’t aware.

They can’t shutdown WeChat because it also happens to be China’s largest digital payment platform. Many are speaking in codes to evade censors, for example if I want to know if someone is in quarantine or lockdown I ask something like “did you buy that shirt you wanted” and the reply will be “I can’t go shopping” (I’m in quarantine) or “I went to store but they didn’t have it” (I’m in lockdown).

We are really wanting to hear back from 2 of my wife’s cousins who are in the military and were deployed to Hubei. They can only reach out to wife’s aunt and say they are ok. They’re not allowed to say anything, their calls are monitored and they aren’t allowed mobile phones.

I have some friends who lost their jobs, both Chinese and expats, and some Americans and Canadians who lost their job and are now being deported because no one is hiring right now. I did learn a former staff member I managed last in 2015 died up in Tianjin, that sucked. She is survived by her husband and daughter, neither infected thankfully. Really sad to hear that.

Wife is talking to her childhood friend who is in Beijing, hope to get some more info.

a reply to: ragiusnotiel

Ok, on Masks have seen youtube videos on making you own masks from different materials but people say they will allow the small virus thru or be a surface to touch and spread.

What if you made your own A Salt-coated Mask Kill CORONA Virus In 5 Minutes- Learn How To make Yourself

Note in the video he uses actual masks but not a chemist or material expert if you have any closely woven cloth saturated in the salt solution would that limit at least 90% the wet virus from passing the salt.

Don't know if effective only think it maybe better than nothing,
unless you wear a full face scuba mask and filters over breathing tube and a method to get exhale air out more efficiently not sure how to guarantee not touching face or breathing clean air every minute.

Apparently has been proven in a lab to work. Made in the USA

Update Mar.19/20 - 11pm EST
Wuhan Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Global Cases (by JHU CSSE)
gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com...#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Canada * 257-Ontario, 271-British Columbia, 146-Alberta, 121-Quebec
17-Manitoba, 10-Grand Princess, 11-New Brunswick, 20-Saskatchewan
2-Prince Edward Island, 3- Newfoundland & Labrador, 14-Nova Scotia Total= 872
www.canada.ca... nuary-4-2018/canadas-pandemic-plan.html

coronavirus.1point3acres.com... USA & Canada Updates

Mar.01/20 - 4 more confirm + 20 Canada = Total 24
Mar.02/20 - 3 more confirm + 24 Canada = Total 27
Mar.03/20 - 6 more confirm + 27 Canada = Total 33
Mar.04/20 - 1 more confirm + 33 Canada = Total 34
Mar.05/20 - 14 more confirm + 34 Canada = Total 48
Mar.06/20 - 6 more confirm + 48 Canada = Total 54
Mar.07/20 - 6 more confirm + 54 Canada = Total 60
Mar.08/20 - 6 more confirm + 60 Canada = Total 66
Mar.09/20 - 11 more confirm + 66 Canada = Total 78
Mar.10/20 - 19 more confirm + 78 Canada = Total 97
Mar.11/20 - 21 more confirm + 78 Canada = Total 119
Mar.12/20 - 40 more confirm + 119 Canada = Total 159
Mar.13/20 - 43 more confirm + 159 Canada = Total 202
Mar.14/20 - 55 more confirm + 202 Canada = Total 257
Mar.15/20 - 86 more confirm + 257 Canada = Total 343
Mar.16/20 - 98 more confirm + 343 Canada = Total 444
Mar.17/20 - 154 more confirm + 444 Canada = Total 598
Mar.18/20 - 129 more confirm + 598 Canada = Total 727
Mar.19/20 - 145 more confirm + 727 Canada = Total 872

Feb.27/20 - 202 more confirm + 453 Italy = Total 655
Feb.28/20 - 234 more confirm + 655 Italy = Total 889
Feb.29/20 - 239 more confirm + 889 Italy = Total 1,128
Mar. 1/20 - 566 more confirm + 1,128 Italy = Total 1,694
Mar. 2/20 - 342 more confirm + 1,694 Italy = Total 2,036
Mar. 3/20 - 466 more confirm + 2,036 Italy = Total 2,502
Mar. 4/20 - 586 more confirm + 2,502 Italy = Total 3,089
Mar. 5/20 - 769 more confirm + 3,089 Italy = Total 3,858
Mar. 6/20 - 778 more confirm + 3,858 Italy = Total 4,636
Mar. 7/20 - 1,247 more confirm + 4,636 Italy = Total 5,883
Mar. 8/20 - 1,492 more confirm + 5,883 Italy = Total 7,375
Mar. 9/20 - 1,797 more confirm + 7,375 Italy = Total 9,172
Mar.10/20 - 977 more confirm + 9,172 Italy = Total 10,149
Mar.11/20 - 2,651 more confirm + 10,149 Italy = Total 12,462
Mar.12/20 - 2,651 more confirm + 12,462 Italy = Total 15,113
Mar.13/20 - 2,547 more confirm + 15,113 Italy = Total 17,660
Mar.14/20 - 3,497 more confirm + 17,660 Italy = Total 21,157
Mar.15/20 - 3,590 more confirm + 21,157 Italy = Total 24,747
Mar.16/20 - 3,233 more confirm + 24,747 Italy = Total 27,980
Mar.17/20 - 3,526 more confirm + 27,980 Italy = Total 31,506
Mar.18/20 - 4,207 more confirm + 31,506 Italy = Total 35,713
Mar.19/20 - 5,322 more confirm + 35,713 Italy = Total 41,035

www.worldometers.info...
We are now where Italy was on Feb.28/20

originally posted by: musicismagic
I know my post have been mild in its form, but I did get one post deleted, it really was too thick . But people don't come to Japan. In a way, Japan is like China. I won't tell you why. Just don't fkn come here.

Same goes for Australia people, although we're nothing like China, or Japan for that matter.... we have a major catastrophe here.... We are out of Toilet Paper!

Spoke to the local Supermarket Supervisor and was told they won't be rolling in in droves either.... just a trickle.
Somebody in the Gov is hoarding!

Oh, by the way, we have another cruise ship docked in Sydney Harbor with infected passengers and crew..... and yes it's another Princess, Ruby Princess

www.news.com.au... d63d1510858abed382a91

originally posted by: elitegamer23
40 million people in California on lock down !

Either America can lock down and give the hospitals and our amazing medical personnel a chance or we can be naive and let this virus spread more .

Actually your being naive anyways if you believe it's all about the virus.

a reply to: MaverickLRD

In that case not. But seriously... if 40% of elderly people are zinc deficient and its necessary to control the immune response regarding inflammation for starters, and with the maxim always look for the simplest cure first, with regards to any illness. My thoughts with regards to a fast processed food generation, would be to look for any deficiencies in your diet before you do anything else. www.doctorshealthpress.com...

a reply to: ketsuko

It took her about 12 days to get over it and test negative.

That's right on line with the study phage linked earlier which he and I had discussed a bit in another thread:

With 30% of hospitalised cases requiring critical care, we obtain an overall mean duration of hospitalisation of 10.4 days, slightly shorter than the duration from hospital admission to discharge observed for COVID-19 cases internationally13 (who will have remained in hospital longer to ensure negative tests at discharge) but in line with estimates for general pneumonia admissions14.
Table

That study had some very disturbing numbers about what this virus could do with some very conservative intial conditions:

We assumed an incubation period of 5.1 days9,10. Infectiousness is assumed to occur from 12 hours prior to the onset of symptoms for those that are symptomatic and from 4.6 days after infection in those that are asymptomatic with an infectiousness profile over time that results in a 6.5-day mean generation time. Based on fits to the early growth-rate of the epidemic in Wuhan10,11, we make a baseline assumption that R0=2.4 but examine values between 2.0 and 2.6. We assume that symptomatic individuals are 50% more infectious than asymptomatic individuals.

They had the doubling time set at 5 days, but MrRCFlying tabulated 3 days and so far we are close to his predicted numbers:

originally posted by: MrRCflying
Originally posted these numbers for the US on 3/9.

Calculations for doubling rate is holding about 3 days. I don't think it is because of more testing. We would see a real spike if that were the case.


3/2 about 100 cases
3/5 about 200 cases
3/7 about 400 cases

Projected based on doubling every 3rd day:

3/9 about 800 - Actual just under 800
3/11 or 12 about 1,600 - Actual just over 1,600
3/14 or 15 about 3,200 - Just passed the 3,200 mark looks to hit maybe 3,500 today
3/17 or 18 about 6,400
3/20 or 21 about 12,800
3/23 or 24 about 25,600
3/26 or 27 about 51,200
3/29 or 30 about 102,400

As of this posting:



COVID-19 in US and Canada

Granted, this is likely due to the increased availability of testing but it is still a sobering thought nonetheless.

Chinese Billionaire To Donate 500,000 Test Kits And 1 Million Masks To The U.S.


500,000 Test kits...thats like 10000 per state .

Shanghai Government Officially Recommends Vitamin C for COVID-19

(OMNS Mar 3, 2020) The government of Shanghai, China has announced its official recommendation that COVID-19 should be treated with high amounts of intravenous vitamin C. (1) Dosage recommendations vary with severity of illness, from 50 to 200 milligrams per kilogram body weight per day to as much as 200 mg/kg/day. These dosages are approximately 4,000 to 16,000 mg for an adult, administered by IV. This specific method of administration is important, says intravenous therapy expert Atsuo Yanagisawa, MD, PhD, because vitamin C’s effect is at least ten times more powerful by IV than if taken orally. Dr. Yanagisawa is president of the Tokyo-based Japanese College of Intravenous Therapy. He says, “Intravenous vitamin C is a safe, effective, and broad-spectrum antiviral.”

Richard Z. Cheng, MD, PhD, a Chinese-American specialist physician, has been working closely with medical and governmental authorities throughout China. He has been instrumental in facilitating at least three Chinese clinical IV vitamin C studies now underway. Dr. Cheng is presently in Shanghai continuing his efforts to encourage still more Chinese hospitals to implement vitamin C therapy incorporating high oral doses as well as C by IV. Dr. Cheng and Dr. Yanagisawa both recommend oral vitamin C for prevention of COVID-19 infection.

An official statement from Xi’an Jiaotong University Second Hospital (2) reads: “On the afternoon of February 20, 2020, another 4 patients with severe new coronaviral pneumonia recovered from the C10 West Ward of Tongji Hospital. In the past 8 patients have been discharged from hospital. . . [H]igh-dose vitamin C achieved good results in clinical applications. We believe that for patients with severe neonatal pneumonia and critically ill patients, vitamin C treatment should be initiated as soon as possible after admission. . .[E]arly application of large doses of vitamin C can have a strong antioxidant effect, reduce inflammatory responses, and improve endothelial function. . . Numerous studies have shown that the dose of vitamin C has a lot to do with the effect of treatment. . . [H]gh-dose vitamin C can not only improve antiviral levels, but more importantly, can prevent and treat acute lung injury (ALI) and acute respiratory distress (ARDS).”

So everybody just take everyday a lot vitamin C, and also vitamin D as it is equally important

originally posted by: XCrycek


All hospitals have a limited capacity,no matter how great they are. In Bergamo as in Wuhan, they just can't keep up with the # of infected. We are not geared for this kind of pandemic.

Is anyone else wondering what hospitals and governments have been doing in preparation for a pandemic? It doesn't sound like they came remotely close to having an adequate amount of PPE in storage, and these items don't expire like insulin. I'm beginning to wonder if some folks should be falling on their swords; it's not like these numbers haven't been anticipated in various exercises, right? I wonder how this will change risk management, resilience, etc., in the future.

a reply to: Kenzo

My God, it's almost like treatment for a bad cold or a case of the flu! Who'd have thought it?

COVID-19 could spread through poop
(middle of the article)
news.yahoo.com...

A COVID-19 patient was placed in a surgical
ward because they
only showed abdominal symptoms,
doctors didn't suspect the new coronavirus.
That patient then transmitted the virus to at least 10
healthcare workers and four other patients in the ward.
Researchers found the virus in poop

This begs the question if COVID-19 is a mutted
canine version that
has transmuted to humans ?
en.wikipedia.org...

. . . I hate it when people don't pick up after their dog.