Corona - Covid19 - General Discussion

a reply to: violet

Oh, sorry didn't mean to lecture, mistook you're post about hype to mean you weren't worried at all, so I worried a bit for you. Seeing your reply, sounds like you are with it and doing a great job for you're family. Just managed to convince my parents and brother to start a bit of prep a few days ago, one less thing to worry about on a long list.

a reply to: saladfingers123456

So I guess California is going to make a big announcement this morning:

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a reply to: slatesteam

I think the SG would likely just respawn in the dungeon if he took enough damage.

Many people don't like numbers and it is hard for them to grasp what is occurring with this virus as it spreads. I'm thinking of how to make something so they can better visualize it.

I'm thinking of digging out an old State map and whenever it is announced that someone got the virus mark the location where the person lives and the date of the announcement. As the virus count increases the viewer can see where clusters occur and, overtime, how it moves across the State. My guess is it will first move across the State by following the Interstates and other major highways. Then follow the major scenery roads. Eventually making it in to the rural areas of the State.

The young granddaughters can use the map for a science project on disease clusters and how a disease move across the State. It may be that unrelated outbreaks will occur first in the major cities, move along the highways to eventually merge with the outbreaks of other cities. The map would show how long it takes to move. Where the outbreaks occur will the virus saturate the location first before it migrates or does it saturation the location and the migration occur together. You can see how the virus spreads and how long it takes.

Can I ask what is going on in America?
Here in this country not much going on.
For people of age, they are buying what they can.
Young people are now being told not to go to live clubs with music
Really I'd like to hear what is going on there in a country that I grew up in and recently visited and found out it had all changed to a degree that I thought I was in a 3rd world country. Just couldn't believe the poo and urine smell on the streets of San Fran. Also the needles just feet away from expensive restaurants . Sick I tell ya.

Confirmed 14% reinfection (data from China so likely higher).

The reason people are being released from hospital "cured" testing negative, then getting sick again, testing positive, sometimes dying, and infecting others.

New Express News reporter: Will the Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention, re-examination of patients with positive nucleic acid in the discharged patients, re-infected with new crown pneumonia? Is this "Fuyang" contagious? 

And our province actually has preliminary data, and 14% of the patients who are discharged now also have the phenomenon of "rejuvenation".

We all know that pneumonia is a relatively long-lasting disease, and it may take two or three months to recover. Recently, Academician Zhong Nanshan also said in the media that some elderly people or some are in poor physical condition. His pneumonia recovery is Slower, this process is similar to tuberculosis, some people may appear active, and some people may recover.

We observe new coronary pneumonia, a similar situation may occur, but we are gradually going to scientific evidence-based, and have not yet reached a systematic scientific conclusion.

We also monitored it in the laboratory and found that young mild patients will soon develop antibodies within two weeks. If they are positive, his risk is actually very low. We think he is a protective antibody. He The risk of transmission is getting lower.

However, there are some elderly people who find that it takes a long time to produce antibodies. It may take a long time to produce antibodies. He will continuously detoxify and may become a source of infection.

gdio.southcn.com...

Guy doesn't really answer reporters question as to whether the reinfected are infectious( I can't see why they wouldn't be), but he does drop the 14% reinfected info.

Then there is this link from tgidkp-

Reinfection by virus binding onto antibodies to trick the immune system and enter cells via a different pathway than the normal entry through H2 receptors.

Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) occurs when antibodies facilitate viral entry into host cells and enhance viral infection in these cells.

A neutralizing antibody binds to the surface spike protein of coronaviruses like a viral receptor, triggers a conformational change of the spike, and mediates viral entry into IgG Fc receptor-expressing cells through canonical viral-receptor-dependent pathways.

 

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Found this on the CDC site. Thought it might be helpful to those with a limited supply of the N95 masks:
www.cdc.gov...

Re-use refers to the practice of using the same N95 respirator by one HCP for multiple encounters with different patients but removing it (i.e. doffing) after each encounter. This practice is often referred to as “limited reuse” because restrictions are in place to limit the number of times the same respirator is reused. It is important to consult with the respirator manufacturer regarding the maximum number of donnings or uses they recommend for the N95 respirator model. If no manufacturer guidance is available, data suggests limiting the number of reuses to no more than five uses per device to ensure an adequate safety margin.1 N95 and other disposable respirators should not be shared by multiple HCP. CDC has recommended guidance on implementation of limited re-use of N95 respirators in healthcare settings.

To maintain the integrity of the respirator, it is important for HCP to hang used respirators in a designated storage area or keep them in a clean, breathable container such as a paper bag between uses. It is not recommended to modify the N95 respirator by placing any material within the respirator or over the respirator. Modification may negatively affect the performance of the respirator and could void the NIOSH approval.

a reply to: musicismagic

Not much in the south east US. Life is normal, mostly people are joking about the virus and how blown out of proportion it is, like they are experts about it or something.

My wife’s friends daughter is a cop near San Fran, CA, said there are talks of a city lockdown, shutdown of all the bridges Out and into the city. I was a bit surprised when I heard that. We’ll see if that’s true in the next couple days. You know how rumors are.

a reply to: Cmajlz

Does seem logical, generally starting in cities with airports, then spreading out along transport routes. Likely to be many random anomalies, infected people going here or there, but the pattern sounds right.

Lends credence to the bugging out further/more remote is better claim.

Paid attention to this outbreak since the get go when doctors were arrested in China for reporting un-ascribed pneumonia cases.

Really paid attention as Wuhan was still in relatively low numbers

Started ringing alarm bells when news was covering exodus from Wuhan.

Was told by most on ATS that was fear mongering and folks like me would upset the economy and create panic.

So I've sat back and mostly reserved comment for weeks and let situation educate those suffering large bouts of normalcy bias.

My thoughts,

IMHO the CDC and government officials have done a very fine job making sure the virus spread widely across the U.S. That idea goes beyond ineptness into territory of conspiratorial plan using hindsight.

1. Slow walk and utter control of testing by CDC resulted in no test/no case false reporting by......almost everyone - normalcy bias buy in by populance was result.

2. Obfuscation of virus source, fish market, bats, weird edible mammals, Canadian lab theft, US lab theft, Harvard University collaborator or Wuhan lab. If announced as possible bio-weapon or lab accident then public would demand action for to early for spread of virus as we now can see when to late to stop short of dystopian permission for government to drastically violate constitution much like 9/11 and Patriot act but far worse.

3. Economic and market issues, greed served over lives. Simply put those with reserves will make out like thieves coming out of this.

4. Depopulation nutters instead of failed climate changers. TPTB recognized one wasn't working and switched support and funding to plan that cannot fail.

5 is 4, just replace with politics and failed impeachment - we lose, you all lose mentality.

Other posters promulgating natural cause will have to offer up incontrovertible proof for me to believe this is not a man caused event.

Phoenix

Well update on my daughter. There was a pretty scary moment last night. She texted me in all caps...
I NEED YOU NOW... I ran to her bathroom only to find her and her bathroom both covered in blood.

She has had a bloody nose like 3x in her life and she had a coughing attack during this one.

Thankfully as of right now she looks like she's made a turn she looks and sounds a lot better.

Fever gone again. So here is hoping shes making progress. She let me make her a smoothie and I loaded it up with honey and some things she didn't know I added.

The dog has finally left her side so I'm thinking it's good.

a reply to: drussell41

So what was CAs big announcement?

a reply to: slatesteam

Los Angeles County declared a state of emergency.

Source

a reply to: slatesteam

I see kuroneko answered the question.

We didn't see it covered on the news. I guess it's no big deal when a large county declares a state of emergency.

a reply to: drussell41

A large county in the most populated state, and the 10th death.... it’s gonna be a long year. Good thing I like reading and have lots of books. Now if I could just my kitty to like me....

What Phoenix said.

Man made, spread on purpose, and at this specific time for a very specific reason.

And I have noticed since yesterday that the media and even online sites that aren't usually considered part of the media have started to report less and hide updates a few pages back. Kind of like some other less free countries in the world.

a reply to: primalfractal
No worries, I realized I’d made it sound that way.
All good

a reply to: drussell41
There was a death

California county says person who died from coronavirus had recently taken cruise to Mexico

The patient, whose name wasn't released, was elderly and had underlying health conditions, and probably was exposed to the virus on a cruise from February 11 to 21 between San Francisco and Mexico, Placer County health officials said. A person from Sonoma County who was on the cruise has contracted the virus.

CNN

a reply to: slatesteam
A death www.cnn.com...

originally posted by: violet
a reply to: slatesteam
A death www.cnn.com...

And, also, wasn't it that they declared a state of emergency in California?
regards and stay safe,
tetra50