Corona Virus Updates Part 3

Youtube Tucker:America is being sold to China. Feb. 18th.

Last night Tucker on Fox News discussed a very important issue which I have posted about a few times now. Finally we are receiving confirmation about our concerns.
China has complete control over our pharmaceutical drugs and antibiotics.
His point was that politicians who allowed this and the movement of other key industries to China were only interested in enriching themselves. They were not motivated as to what was in the best interest of the country or national security.

This is much more serious then people realize.
If the coronavirus becomes widespread here exactly where are we to get our medications to fight this come from?

China.

We ask, we need and they say NO!

Checkmate.

Conspiracy theory:

Virus is a vaccine.

US been working on a vaccine for SARS for quite a while, even ready for human testing in '07
clinicaltrials.gov...
The study outlined here says SARS epidemic unlikely, but 'terrorists' might want to use it so a vaccine would be useful.

No results posted, but I heard SARS vaccines had been unsuccessful, too dangerous/damaging.

Maybe China thought SARS outbreaks could become more frequent, so developed a vaccine from bat SARS. Tests weren't good enough. The study above wanted young and fit participants for testing. If China did anything similar, they would have found very mild symptoms. Like a flu vaccine. i.e. They thought they'd created a SARS with no bite.

Vaccine was deployed. Vaccine wasn't picked up as the common link in outbreak until millions had already been vaccinated.

Vaccines aren't supposed to be infectious/contagious though, they're supposed to be deactivated. Again, not my field, just thought I'd put it out there to be torn to shreds, or not.

a reply to: missed_gear

This is not an 'Asian only' virus.

Very good to know. Do we have any idea when or if it made the switch to all from just asian people?

originally posted by: Thoughtful1
Youtube Tucker:America is being sold to China. Feb. 18th.

Last night Tucker on Fox News discussed a very important issue which I have posted about a few times now. Finally we are receiving confirmation about our concerns.
China has complete control over our pharmaceutical drugs and antibiotics.
His point was that politicians who allowed this and the movement of other key industries to China were only interested in enriching themselves. They were not motivated as to what was in the best interest of the country or national security.

This is much more serious then people realize.
If the coronavirus becomes widespread here exactly where are we to get our medications to fight this come from?

China.

We ask, we need and they say NO!

Checkmate.

If that started to happen and they were not even giving their Russian friends and other allies of theirs some supplies, I could see all major countries declaring an open war on China. Imagine that for a moment.

as a degreed biotechnologist, having read and understood papers and watched the political responses, i have not yet made my speculation known. i would like to do that now....

... this is not a naturally occurring bug. it came from a lab. no doubt in my mind about it.

.... the most credible reason for the higher death count in China thusfar is that the more serious biological responses (such as cardiac failure, liver and kidney failure, and the acute respiratory disease) are due primarily to reinfection and an extreme secondary immune response. (p.s. a "healthy immune system" will not work in your favor and may actually make it worse.)

.... the reinfection also gives us an idea of why there is such wide variation in the reported incubation period and also the prolific failures in the detection of the disease.

.... accordingly, it seems obvious that this virus was released upon the population (by accident or intended, i decline to speculate) earlier than the December timeframe. October feels right.

.... finally, i suggest that it's very likely that you, me, and a large fraction of the population have already been exposed to and suffered some minor illness from initial exposure to the virus. this bug is extremely virulent and is circling the globe many times over by this point.

it is behaving exactly the way it has been programmed to.



i would be happy to clarify any of these points and any other questions you might have.


good luck, ATS.

danny

originally posted by: tgidkp
as a degreed biotechnologist, having read and understood papers and watched the political responses, i have not yet made my speculation known. i would like to do that now....

... this is not a naturally occurring bug. it came from a lab. no doubt in my mind about it.

.... the most credible reason for the higher death count in China thusfar is that the more serious biological responses (such as cardiac failure, liver and kidney failure, and the acute respiratory disease) are due primarily to reinfection and an extreme secondary immune response. (p.s. a "healthy immune system" will not work in your favor and may actually make it worse.)

.... the reinfection also gives us an idea of why there is such wide variation in the reported incubation period and also the prolific failures in the detection of the disease.

.... accordingly, it seems obvious that this virus was released upon the population (by accident or intended, i decline to speculate) earlier than the December timeframe. October feels right.

.... finally, i suggest that it's very likely that you, me, and a large fraction of the population have already been exposed to and suffered some minor illness from initial exposure to the virus. this bug is extremely virulent and is circling the globe many times over by this point.

it is behaving exactly the way it has been programmed to.

 

i would be happy to clarify any of these points and any other questions you might have.


good luck, ATS.

danny

If it has been over the globe, why would reinfections occur mainly in China, specifically Hubei? Population density, a specific mutation, or re-releases from the lab?

update: 19 February 2020 17:20 (UTC+1)
MAINLAND CHINA
TOTAL cases 74,185
Dead 2,005
serious 11,977
recovered 14,376
suspected 5,248

OTHER PLACES
Diamond Princess 621

TOTAL cases 496* (*1117-621=496)
Dead 6
serious/critical 39
source = bnonews.com...

Johns Hopkins CSSE



files.abovetopsecret.com...
Johns Hopkins CSSE

a reply to: Oppenheimer67



I thought also that vaccine could cause something we are seeing in China, but i have no idea still....


The lockdown and big death numbers in Wuhan area dont seem to add up what`s happening in other countrys, it look`s like 2 different bug scenario .

originally posted by: missed_gear
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

The Chinese health system has been overwhelmed if not overrun. The rest of the world, not so far...

The closing of international travel from China by most nations (including Russia!) curbs the spread. Adding to that, mandatory quarantines of persons traveling/contact from the regions affected.

All of this creates this false narrative of "it's only persons of SEA origins".

The US now is researching the live virus, has been for a few weeks. One must have the live virus to research.

Da ngerous but important tool

I am a ferry ride and some miles from here:

GNL

My wife is in medicine and works walking distance from the afore mentioned. Her comment to me was "normally a docile facility and now looks like a beehive". On her side, they are constantly rehearsing protocols which never has occurred at this level according to her...taking a great deal of her time.

The treatment, care and diagnostics are not comparable in China vs. the rest of the world. This is not an 'Asian only' virus.

mg

No one is saying it is an Asian only virus. Only that it hasn't killed a non Asian as yet! And if it doesn't then there
is a reason other that quality of medical why it has not! Also, according to some reports if true, people are dying in China in much larger numbers and in different and strange sudden ways.

Another conspiracy within a conspiracy:

I posted a new article on the Wuhan mobile incinerators yesterday. There are perfectly good reasons to have these other than for disposal of human remains, but after reading the article, this occurred to me later:

"It contains three parts of solid crushing, incineration and air purification"
news.ltn.com.tw...

There were reports of high SO2 around Wuhan, which people pondered may be due to lots of cremations. I'm not sure if this has been debunked? But it occurred to me, that happened, and then they bring in these fancy incinerators with air purification units.

You'd think most incinerators treat the exhaust in some way, afterburner etc, but this air purification came back to me and obviously made me wonder.

a reply to: Mateo96

If it has been over the globe, why would reinfections occur mainly in China, specifically Hubei? Population density, a specific mutation, or re-releases from the lab?

oh make no mistake, my friend, your reinfection is currently under way.

i will add that it is not likely that the virus has undergone any significant mutation this early on.

originally posted by: Chance321
a reply to: missed_gear

This is not an 'Asian only' virus.

Very good to know. Do we have any idea when or if it made the switch to all from just asian people?

Good question.

The research being conducted by UTMB an Texas A&M will be conclusive...as it was with SARS, MERS, Ebola, H1N1...etc etc. One cant keep the research "under wraps" here...

Good resource from Lancet

mg

The head of a major hospital in the virus epicenter of Wuhan is in critical condition after being infected with the disease, according to Chinese state-run media on Feb. 19.

The news comes less than two days after the director of another leading Wuhan hospital died of the novel coronavirus, known as COVID-19.

Wang Ping, the director of Wuhan No. 8 Hospital, contracted COVID-19 after treating infected patients at the hospital, state-run Beijing News reported on Feb. 19.

Wang is currently being treated at Jinyintan Hospital, the first designated hospital for coronavirus in Wuhan, according to Beijing News.

a reply to: Mateo96

Maybe a bit like Malaria? Each attack can leave you worse off.

If it was engineered maybe its undetectable til each new "attack."

Just a thought on that theory.

originally posted by: Thoughtful1
Youtube Tucker:America is being sold to China. Feb. 18th.

Last night Tucker on Fox News discussed a very important issue which I have posted about a few times now. Finally we are receiving confirmation about our concerns.
China has complete control over our pharmaceutical drugs and antibiotics.
His point was that politicians who allowed this and the movement of other key industries to China were only interested in enriching themselves. They were not motivated as to what was in the best interest of the country or national security.

This is much more serious then people realize.
If the coronavirus becomes widespread here exactly where are we to get our medications to fight China.

We ask, we need and they say NO!

Checkmate.

Canada? for antibiotics and pharmaceuticals?

Distractions, distractions, distractions.

With the chaos surrounding this coronavirus and the worlds' attention focused on "theater" with coronavirus on stage China is going to do something that they have wanted to accomplish for a long time now.

We are going to witness the takeover of Hong Kong and Taiwan. It will happen overnight.

Maybe China selected one sacrificial city, introduced the coronavirus, then took extreme measures that would catch everyones' attention.

China initially allows out information about how serious the situation is. Citizens recount horrors via we chat, weibo and youtube.
Then these sources are shut down and the expected censorship resumes.

There will be 'acceptable' civilian casualties in a country of billions.

I keep going back to Chinas' vaccine law enacted in December. Why all of a sudden is there is concern over diseases?

Maybe there is a cure. We don't know. China will not allow WHO into Wuhan, the epicenter of the disease.

China is in total control of the narrative.

Just makes sense.

a reply to: Oppenheimer67

CAUTION DOWNLOAD
www.eea.europa.eu...

its a a pdf and says

As well as persistent organic pollutants (e.g. dioxins), and some heavy metals (e.g. Pb, Cu, Cd, Cr, Ni,
Hg), pollutants released are sulphur oxides (SOx), nitrogen oxides (NOx), volatile organic compounds
(non-methane VOCs), carbon monoxide (CO) and ammonia (NH3).
Carbon monoxide emissions result when carbon in the waste is not oxidised to carbon dioxide (CO2). High
levels of CO indicate that the combustion gases were not held at a sufficiently high temperature in the
presence of oxygen (O2) for a long enough time to convert CO to CO2. Because O2 levels and air
distributions vary among combustor types, CO levels also vary among combustor types. Carbon monoxide
concentration is a good indicator of combustion efficiency, and is an important criterion for indicating
instabilities and non-uniformities in the combustion process (US Environmental Protection Agency (US
EPA), 1995).
Nitrogen oxides are products of all fuel/air combustion processes. Nitric oxide (NO) is the primary
component of NOx; however, nitrogen dioxide (NO2) and nitrous oxide (N2O) are also formed in smaller
amounts. Nitrogen oxides are formed during combustion through oxidation of nitrogen in the waste, and
oxidation of atmospheric nitrogen. Conversion of nitrogen in the waste occurs at relatively low
temperatures (less than 1 090 °C), while oxidation of atmospheric nitrogen occurs at higher temperatures.
Because of the relatively low temperatures at which municipal waste furnaces operate, 70 to 80 percent
of NOx formed in municipal waste furnaces is associated with nitrogen in the waste.
A variety of organic compounds, including chlorobenzenes, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCB), polycyclic
aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH) and PCDD/Fs are present in MSW or can be formed during the combustion
and post-combination processes. Organics in the flue gas can exist in the vapour phase or can be
condensed or absorbed on fine particulates

not sure it applies to mobile incinerators as the diagram looks like fixed structure but could be why
edit:
the "air purifiers " are most likely for removal of the above listed

originally posted by: Mateo96

originally posted by: tgidkp
as a degreed biotechnologist, having read and understood papers and watched the political responses, i have not yet made my speculation known. i would like to do that now....

... this is not a naturally occurring bug. it came from a lab. no doubt in my mind about it.

.... the most credible reason for the higher death count in China thusfar is that the more serious biological responses (such as cardiac failure, liver and kidney failure, and the acute respiratory disease) are due primarily to reinfection and an extreme secondary immune response. (p.s. a "healthy immune system" will not work in your favor and may actually make it worse.)

.... the reinfection also gives us an idea of why there is such wide variation in the reported incubation period and also the prolific failures in the detection of the disease.

.... accordingly, it seems obvious that this virus was released upon the population (by accident or intended, i decline to speculate) earlier than the December timeframe. October feels right.

.... finally, i suggest that it's very likely that you, me, and a large fraction of the population have already been exposed to and suffered some minor illness from initial exposure to the virus. this bug is extremely virulent and is circling the globe many times over by this point.

it is behaving exactly the way it has been programmed to.

 

i would be happy to clarify any of these points and any other questions you might have.


good luck, ATS.

danny

If it has been over the globe, why would reinfections occur mainly in China, specifically Hubei? Population density, a specific mutation, or re-releases from the lab?

And why only Chinese/SEA fatalities?

originally posted by: Mateo96

originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: ItsOkToBeHappy
You're all going to want to read this. Cambodia just #ed all of us;
www.nytimes.com...

Can you give a summary of the article? You have to subscribe to the website in order to read it and I won't do that.

***Ticks me off that all these articles make you do that. (Not your fault, though)

Found it posted fully and free on other sites such as MSN

h ttp://shorturl.at/pvHM1

So there you go. Indeed, a #ty practice, specially when the author has published it for free somewhere else.

my norton report a virus attack on this link

a reply to: Trillium

All I did was shorten up the URL (using www.shorturl.at...) so I could paste it in these forums, you should be able to find it by looking up "Cambodia’s Coronavirus Complacency May Exact a Global Toll" and "msn.com"

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

originally posted by: Mateo96

originally posted by: tgidkp
as a degreed biotechnologist, having read and understood papers and watched the political responses, i have not yet made my speculation known. i would like to do that now....

... this is not a naturally occurring bug. it came from a lab. no doubt in my mind about it.

.... the most credible reason for the higher death count in China thusfar is that the more serious biological responses (such as cardiac failure, liver and kidney failure, and the acute respiratory disease) are due primarily to reinfection and an extreme secondary immune response. (p.s. a "healthy immune system" will not work in your favor and may actually make it worse.)

.... the reinfection also gives us an idea of why there is such wide variation in the reported incubation period and also the prolific failures in the detection of the disease.

.... accordingly, it seems obvious that this virus was released upon the population (by accident or intended, i decline to speculate) earlier than the December timeframe. October feels right.

.... finally, i suggest that it's very likely that you, me, and a large fraction of the population have already been exposed to and suffered some minor illness from initial exposure to the virus. this bug is extremely virulent and is circling the globe many times over by this point.

it is behaving exactly the way it has been programmed to.

 

i would be happy to clarify any of these points and any other questions you might have.


good luck, ATS.

danny

If it has been over the globe, why would reinfections occur mainly in China, specifically Hubei? Population density, a specific mutation, or re-releases from the lab?

And why only Chinese/SEA fatalities?

Why is it sometimes having so much trouble infecting people? The german dude in La Gomera didn't manage to infect the 20 people he was in contact with during the flight to Tenerife, the ferry to La Gomera, and in the process of renting a car and driving to the hotel room, let alone the 4 people he was traveling and sharing a room with.

Yet, infection rates in China and the cruisers are incredibly high.