Corona Virus Updates Part 3

a reply to: new_here

It’s the evacuees yesterday there’s 14 tested positive on the flight plus the 15 you already had = 29!
The boat is messing up a lot of figures tbh it screwed up the John Hopkins graphs yesterday as it looked like the added it twice for a while there

Looks like they are having more success with the Malaria drug also.

Researchers at KU Leuven in Belgium have discovered that an existing malaria drug works against COVID-19, the disease caused by the 2019-nCoV coronavirus.

In ten hospitals in Beijing, Hunan and Guangdong, chloroquine has recently been tested on patients with COVID-19. Experts from the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology had good news for Van Ranst on Monday: the drug worked.

Patients in China who were given chloroquine for a week showed less fever, improved lung function, and were sooner virus-free and cured, KU said. Until now, doctors could only fight the symptoms of the virus.

The medicine can be used until a coronavirus vaccine is available.

source Dutch news

originally posted by: loam
I'm watching a live interview with one of the passengers from last night's flight, Jerry Goldman?, who just admitted she and her husband lied about being clear from testing.

He's now very ill and she's awaiting news about his condition and her own.

WTF???

So much to unpack there.

So it appears both her and her husband are now in isolation. Oddly this article claims she tested positive before leaving for the flight. In the interview which I recorded, she clearly stated that they lied about the outcome of their test. I have yet to see a YouTube source to post here, but the story definitely does not add up.

www.google.com...

Fourteen of the passengers, including Carl and Jeri, had previously tested positive for coronavirus. Those passengers were then flown to Nebraska for treatment.

originally posted by: pteridine
Ozone in higher concentrations can be hard on the lungs but olive oil may have removed most of it by the time it bubbles through.

Good guess, but wrong...

originally posted by: sirlancelot

originally posted by: FamCore
It has been 3 weeks and 1 day since those first suspected cases in Connecticut popped up. Still no word. Still showing as "suspected cases". As I've mentioned many times, there are dozens of other cases that are about 3 weeks old right now, here in the US that we haven't received updates on.

That's F'd up. How are they getting confirmed cases so quickly in countries that don't have the same modernized medicine or industry, yet here in the US we're waiting over 3 weeks to get results.

Are the healthcare institutions being directed to hold off on news for awhile or are they legitimately still waiting for results on some of these cases? It makes no sense to me whatsoever, other than the healthcare institutions receiving gag orders (which also goes in line with a lot of other anecdotes we've been hearing...)

Cause they are hiding the reality of the infected as not to cause panic. My theory is they just are gonna let it run through the system and roll the dice on who lives or dies from it.

Same with the CDC confirmed cases in the US. It's 15 right and has been for days! I call BS.

What reality? This virus is is like a ordinary flu to none Asian people. Our "super spreader" from the UK got released after a couple of days in hospital. His symptoms were a mild everyday flu.

originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: tanstaafl
I get your point of the incomplete manipulated current data available suggests that, but that doesn’t make that evidence,

Actually, not to be argumentative, but it is evidence. It isn't complete, it isn't irrefutable and is definitely subject to change, but it is evidence, and the only evidence we have at this time.

a reply to: XCrycek

a virus is a virus, this one is new, in some ppl they'll have flu like symptom's

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: pteridine
Ozone in higher concentrations can be hard on the lungs but olive oil may have removed most of it by the time it bubbles through.

Good guess, but wrong...

You say you bubble this stuff with your Dad. Are you sure he's not just trying to kill you?

originally posted by: loam
Oddly this article claims she tested positive before leaving for the flight. In the interview which I recorded, she clearly stated that they lied about the outcome of their test. I have yet to see a YouTube source to post here, but the story definitely does not add up.

Yeah, that makes no sense - like they are going to take someone's word for it, rather than just look at the damned chart to see what their results were?

Give me a break...

originally posted by: doggodlol
a reply to: XCrycek

a virus is a virus, this one is new, in some ppl they'll have flu like symptom's

And the death rate of it outside of China is a joke.

a reply to: doggodlol

least it wasn't a filovirus, where symptoms also include the flu symptoms

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
You say you bubble this stuff with your Dad. Are you sure he's not just trying to kill you?

No, since I'm the one who turned him onto ozone, I would be the one trying to kill him (assuming your inability to comprehend facts was not a factor)...

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
You say you bubble this stuff with your Dad. Are you sure he's not just trying to kill you?

No, since I'm the one who turned him onto ozone, I would be the one trying to kill him (assuming your inability to comprehend facts was not a factor)...

Sorry you're right, I should have known you'd have no sense of humour.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Thoughtful1
you have to be extremely careful when taking the gear off or you will still contaminate yourself.

Something else I'd thought about...

Health care workers wearing these kinds of suits, even if they didn't contract it themselves, would be spreading it around physically every time they went from room to room - unless they completely decontaminated and donned new gear before entering every room, which they obviously are not doing.

The protection is for them, and them alone. No clue as to how they are getting infected even when wearing it...

end of shift when they take it off, I know during CORI's the most fails we typically get are when we go through the decontamination at the end of the day.

We constantly cross contaminate and none of us worked as hard as a health care worker during an outbreak, after 12-16 hours I doubt I could do it and ive been taking that stuff off for 22 years.

originally posted by: BowBells
"You do understand that testing positive for the virus is not the same as 'getting the disease', right."

It might sound really simple of me, but I'm so glad you said that! I've not really stopped to think about the fact that this is 2 parts.. a virus and a disease. So, a rhetorical question really, but do you think that in the far east (specifically China/wuhan) people are contracting the virus and developing the disease quite often, but further west, we may well all be contracting the virus without even realising, but for what ever reason the disease is not developing? Hence the quick recoveries and so far 0 deaths? Or is this what everyone's been saying and I've just skim read too much and missed it?!

That is precisely what I and others are saying. Some people may remain totally asymptomatic, some may get mild cold/flu like symptoms and never even go to the doctor (although with all of the fear-mongering, that will likely change).

originally posted by: BowBells
a reply to: tanstaafl

Sorry tanstaafl, the above message was a reply to you.. I cocked it all up!

No, that was a missing slash on my part that I recently fixed...

So, my bad...

Edit your post and look for the missing '/' in the bold tag...

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
Sorry you're right, I should have known you'd have no sense of humour.

Nor apparently do you, since I was laughing the entire time I posted my response...

a reply to: tanstaafl

Funny whilst apt demonstration of "cherry picking" instead addressing issues of censorship, with holding data and yes disinformation regarding Coronavirus.

Treating the public with platitudes such as "they'll panic" "stocks will go down" "world will end" more or less implying we're smarter - shut up and we know better - I call BS on that whole track. (General statement, no cherries)

Just as when an inflated market bubble bursts and results made far worse for lack of timely correction - the bubble of deceit surrounding Coronavirus will create much greater havoc than necessary.

So go ahead keep blowing bubbles........

a reply to: XCrycek

its a new virus, data not there

A Infectious disease Doctor from Kobe managed to get on the Diamond Princess. He was not allowed on as a doctor and had to lie to get on board as higher ups were trying to stop him. He describes the conditions on board.

YouTube.

Iwata Kentaro

Kobe University | Shindai · Division of Infectious Diseases Therapeutics

Snip

I looked into the several places inside the ship and the turned out that the cruise ship was completely inadequate in terms of the infection control there was no distinction between the Green Zone which is the free of infection and the Red Zone which is potentially contaminated by virus.

If you can't youtube there is a transcript here on Reddit.