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That's a different topic in my book. Let me repeat the critique: Crowley is being cited for a materialist approach to Thelema in order to make his star an actual star, which is utter nonsense. Here's why:
some people seem to be arranging their schedule around the activity of celestial bodies. Your illustration does not demonstrate any actual impact of the celestial bodies upon events scheduled to coincide with such stellar activity. It is a purely symbolic practice.
The priests would tell the surfs (men whom worked the land) that the sun was “god.” Although most priests believed that the physical sun was not actually the “supreme being” itself, but instead was the spirit which flowed through the physical sun. However, there was even another level that the priests didn’t even know about… and that highest level of priests knew that although spiritual energy goes through the sun, the original source of everything comes from the star Sirius.
originally posted by: Astronomer62
I found "Eyes Wide Shut" interesting in regards to secret societies, Kubrick's last film.
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No idea why the candidate would be Sirius, and not Nemesis. I just don't get it. A smaller Brown Dwarf than Saturn would still be a potential candidate
What if the Sun is not powered from within, but from outside of itself by a combination of electrical discharge from twisting Birkeland currents, energy from highly accelerated He++ ions, and nuclear CNO fusion initiated at the surface by solar flares? What if supernovae are not explosions at all but in fact stars shattered by cosmic lightning strikes? What if the gargantuan mass of galaxies is not held together by gravitation alone, but also by electromagnetism? ~Hilton Ratcliffe, The Virtue of Heresy – Confessions of a Dissident Astronomer
originally posted by: Slichter
a reply to: purplemer
If you were one of the first witnesses to the transit of Venus over 5000 years ago your belief in planets in the night sky would be a leap of faith.
Who could you tell?
Crowley spent his honeymoon in Egypt studying the Great Pyramid for inspiration.
You could use that information to decipher the 1973 story of "the exorcist" from Shakespeare.
Who could you tell?
that Crowley didn't have esoteric in mind with reminding us, that:
Below is a simple illustration of a three-dimensional plasma discharge form appearing above ancient sky worshippers, inspiring a vast array of mythical interpretations. The laboratory verified configuration includes a transparent “champagne glass” form above, a transparent “hollow donut” (when seen edge-on), and the “squashed bell” form below, all joined by an axial spine running down from the “head” of the figure.
Anthony L. Peratt is a world leading research scientist on high energy Plasma Discharges. Perhaps the leading authority and some Plasma characteristics have been named as Peratt Instabilities. He has carried out field research on Petroglyphs (rock art carved into rocks) after noticing the similarity between high energy plasma discharges and the images recorded in rock art and cave drawings by nations all over the world. His conclusion is that the Squatter Man (Squatting Man) was the event that inspired all the images and it was a Plamsa Discharge witnessed by humans on earth.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: TzarChasm
some people seem to be arranging their schedule around the activity of celestial bodies. Your illustration does not demonstrate any actual impact of the celestial bodies upon events scheduled to coincide with such stellar activity. It is a purely symbolic practice.
Its not some people. This is being organised by some of the most powerful and affluent people in the world and just like they control most of the worlds money and power they also control the knowledge.
You have no proof that this is a purely symbolic practice. Thats your guess on it and it comes from the perspective of someone that has zero understanding on the subject. So the truth of it is your opinion is based simply your imagination.
Hillary Clinton is a Thelmatic practioneer (sirius worship) along with Podesta. (in any doubt go and read the Wikileaks podesta leaks on spirit cooking) This is acutally a beleif in the esoteric. It becomes apparent that we are simply not privy to the same information as the elite and therefore a different belief system.
This tired system was also used in ancient Egypt and is still used today. Hence the title of the thread ( re cover up)
The priests would tell the surfs (men whom worked the land) that the sun was “god.” Although most priests believed that the physical sun was not actually the “supreme being” itself, but instead was the spirit which flowed through the physical sun. However, there was even another level that the priests didn’t even know about… and that highest level of priests knew that although spiritual energy goes through the sun, the original source of everything comes from the star Sirius.
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Happy days :-)
In the early 20th century, Carl Sagan purported the myth that some European affected the Dogon's presentation of the Sirius myth and repeated it verbatim to Griaule a generation later. Aside from the total absence of records - oral or written- this preposterous fiction and scenario ignores the inconvenient truth that the realization that Sirius B was a white dwarf did not occur until 1914.
Dogon Sand drawing of the complete Sirius system, A. Sirius, B. Po Tolo. [the object equated with Siriu B is shown in two positions]; C. Emme Ya, the sun of women, equated with Sirius C; D. The Nommo; E. the Yourougou, a mythical male figure
The Dogon seem also to have a concept that can be described as 'gravity': "The Movements of Po to keep all other stars on the respective places: in fact, they say that without this movement none of them would "stay in place." Po Tolo forces them to keep their trajectory: in particular, 'it regulates the trajectory of Sirius,
And you have no proof that these esoteric practices are actually producing any results. People are performing rituals but their manifestation ends when the ceremony does. There is no supernatural reward for such activities.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: TzarChasm
And you have no proof that these esoteric practices are actually producing any results. People are performing rituals but their manifestation ends when the ceremony does. There is no supernatural reward for such activities.
Science is a tool that allows only the dissection of in the exoteric world. What we are talking about here is esoteric in nature.
Yes I do have proof. The Hermeitic princple defines it as such "All is Mind."
Prove me wrong
originally posted by: Slichter
a reply to: purplemer
If you were one of the first witnesses to the transit of Venus over 5000 years ago your belief in planets in the night sky would be a leap of faith.
Who could you tell?
Crowley spent his honeymoon in Egypt studying the Great Pyramid for inspiration.
You could use that information to decipher the 1973 story of "the exorcist" from Shakespeare.
Who could you tell?
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: TzarChasm
And you have no proof that these esoteric practices are actually producing any results. People are performing rituals but their manifestation ends when the ceremony does. There is no supernatural reward for such activities.
Science is a tool that allows only the dissection of in the exoteric world. What we are talking about here is esoteric in nature.
Yes I do have proof. The Hermeitic princple defines it as such "All is Mind."
Prove me wrong
Esoteric and physics are two very different languages, which is why people are struggling to correlate modern astronomy with your ancient Egyptian mysticism.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: TzarChasm
Here are the princples. I can make strong correlations between them and modern physics.
The stuggle in part is as I said because we are culturally trained to use a religion (sceince) that only deals with the esoteric.
If all is mind as the hermetic principle states then to understand the universe and what it is we need to re develop tools to deal with esoteric.
All is mind :-)
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: TzarChasm
Here are the princples. I can make strong correlations between them and modern physics.
The stuggle in part is as I said because we are culturally trained to use a religion (sceince) that only deals with the esoteric.
If all is mind as the hermetic principle states then to understand the universe and what it is we need to re develop tools to deal with esoteric.
All is mind :-)
Your kemetic principles are strongly reminiscent of the Greek elements that reduced all of matter to 4 basic shapes that government reality (5 shapes if you include ether). There is truth in the concepts you have shared here but it is a very rough sketch that persists in adapting arcane studies to fill in the blanks, much like Ptolemy once did. Granting anthropomorphic qualities to the heavenly bodies and dividing geology according to the worlds of mortals and deities, designating elements in honor of mythology, etc. Alchemy is not science.