Our Suns Binary and Spiritual Second Sun (Coverup)

originally posted by: Astronomer62

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: purplemer

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Astronomer62

It's symbolism, an icon of cultures who inspired our government with their architectural beauty.

Yes it inspires our governments alright. Here is an extract from Astronomer62

Astronomical observations of New York on 11th September 2001

Ancient Greek day marker was applied to 11th September 2001 in New York, which means sunset of previous day, when Alnilam, Belt of Orion and Osiris star was aligned to the Nadir or True North, graph coming:- It looks intentional:-

www.abovetopsecret.com...

A great thread and worth a read :-)

Can you explain what this graph is supposed to be showing and why it matters?

You keep posting images and failing to explain exactly what symbolism is involved, how to translate it and what the full message is allegedly telling us. Can you put a little more effort into the translation and I don't mean etymology or connecting names in modern society with mythical figures.

Hi TzarChasm,
If you read the first page of link below, and click on links, this should give the information that you need:-
www.abovetopsecret.com...

No it doesnt. Let me clarify - your graphs and summary of astronomy has illustrated that some people seem to be arranging their schedule around the activity of celestial bodies. Your illustration does not demonstrate any actual impact of the celestial bodies upon events scheduled to coincide with such stellar activity. It is a purely symbolic practice.

originally posted by: Astronomer62
The most respected research lodges being Philalethes Society and Quatuor Coronati, are aligned to Sirius or Alnilam...

Links?

a reply to: TzarChasm

Okay in any location Sirius can only be rising or setting by midnight twice in a year with a margin of one degree.
Also Sirius can only culminate or be on the Nadir twice, therefore we get four alignments in a year, however we can loose one when we use Summer Time.
But in this philosophy application secret societies also use ancient Egyptian day marker for Sun rise while aligning Sirius, again this can only happen 4 times in a year in any location, an example would be Sirius rising with the Sun along the horizon.
There is one other day start being Ancient Greek day start being sunset previous to date which again you can get four occasions when this can happen.
So in all by chance you will get 12 times that this will happen at any one location.
The same applies to Alnilam, so we are looking at 24 dates out of 365 days.
But at any location we get a number of times that Alnilam could be culminating at midnight, but there could be an alignment to Sirius by Sunrise, all in all we find the number cut down to 20/21 times a year.
When we find that Army, Navy, Airforce, C.I.A. White House, House of the Temple, Washington Monument, Declaration of Independence assassinations of two American presidents to name just a few, it is beyond chance of odds that this wasn't deliberate alignments put in place by Hermetic Philosophy and religious idea's regarding using astrology in beliefs.
I'm sorry that astronomy isn't that clear as it takes time to understand, perhaps Phage can help you?

originally posted by: Astronomer62
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
Hi AugustusMasonicus,
The most respected research lodges being Philalethes Society and Quatuor Coronati, are aligned to Sirius or Alnilam, we may wonder how much influence this Hermetic inspired philosophy reaches into many secret societies, information on page below:-
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Hi AugustusMasonicus,
Please tap on above link, and scroll down to all links you need for the Philalethes Society and Quatuor Coronati, there are links straight to these societies if you just look down page above.

a reply to: Astronomer62

Links directly to Sirius being mentioned, I don't have time to sift through your posts.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Astronomer62

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: purplemer

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Astronomer62

It's symbolism, an icon of cultures who inspired our government with their architectural beauty.

Yes it inspires our governments alright. Here is an extract from Astronomer62

Astronomical observations of New York on 11th September 2001

Ancient Greek day marker was applied to 11th September 2001 in New York, which means sunset of previous day, when Alnilam, Belt of Orion and Osiris star was aligned to the Nadir or True North, graph coming:- It looks intentional:-

www.abovetopsecret.com...

A great thread and worth a read :-)

Can you explain what this graph is supposed to be showing and why it matters?

You keep posting images and failing to explain exactly what symbolism is involved, how to translate it and what the full message is allegedly telling us. Can you put a little more effort into the translation and I don't mean etymology or connecting names in modern society with mythical figures.

Hi TzarChasm,
If you read the first page of link below, and click on links, this should give the information that you need:-
www.abovetopsecret.com...

No it doesnt. Let me clarify - your graphs and summary of astronomy has illustrated that some people seem to be arranging their schedule around the activity of celestial bodies. Your illustration does not demonstrate any actual impact of the celestial bodies upon events scheduled to coincide with such stellar activity. It is a purely symbolic practice.

Alignment to the stars is belief, i didn't say i share these beliefs, however when countries start or finish wars like W.W.1.
and W.W.2. it shows little respect to soldiers who die and the rest of us who don't follow hermetic beliefs, indeed most don't know Hermetic beliefs exist.....all this changes history by this silly star wars fight without any real power in the stars!
www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Astronomer62

Links directly to Sirius being mentioned, I don't have time to sift through your posts.

It is fairly high up on the page, and KSigMason took note, i'm sure when you have the time, you will see it is well researched with the right links.
I'll let you get back to eating babies, your words not mine, it must be exhausting eating a whole one, it must take up all your time obviously!
I thought i would use one of KSigmason's links to the Philalethes Society, started on 1st October 1928 in Cedar Rapids:-
www.travelingtemplar.com...

originally posted by: Astronomer62

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Astronomer62

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: purplemer

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Astronomer62

It's symbolism, an icon of cultures who inspired our government with their architectural beauty.

Yes it inspires our governments alright. Here is an extract from Astronomer62

Astronomical observations of New York on 11th September 2001

Ancient Greek day marker was applied to 11th September 2001 in New York, which means sunset of previous day, when Alnilam, Belt of Orion and Osiris star was aligned to the Nadir or True North, graph coming:- It looks intentional:-

www.abovetopsecret.com...

A great thread and worth a read :-)

Can you explain what this graph is supposed to be showing and why it matters?

You keep posting images and failing to explain exactly what symbolism is involved, how to translate it and what the full message is allegedly telling us. Can you put a little more effort into the translation and I don't mean etymology or connecting names in modern society with mythical figures.

Hi TzarChasm,
If you read the first page of link below, and click on links, this should give the information that you need:-
www.abovetopsecret.com...

No it doesnt. Let me clarify - your graphs and summary of astronomy has illustrated that some people seem to be arranging their schedule around the activity of celestial bodies. Your illustration does not demonstrate any actual impact of the celestial bodies upon events scheduled to coincide with such stellar activity. It is a purely symbolic practice.

Alignment to the stars is belief, i didn't say i share these beliefs, however when countries start or finish wars like W.W.1.
and W.W.2. it shows little respect to soldiers who die and the rest of us who don't follow hermetic beliefs, indeed most don't know Hermetic beliefs exist.....all this changes history by this silly star wars fight without any real power in the stars!
www.abovetopsecret.com...

What you are saying is astronomy is the reason behind war and government appointment (both meetings and personnel elected to office) and sporting events to take advantage of some kind of energy from cosmic alignment? It sounds very superstitious to me. Not so different from those horoscope games on Facebook.

a reply to: TzarChasm
Yes they are very strange beliefs, go back 4 hundred years, Protestants and Catholics were at war, and they were using Alnilam and Sirius, i don't know what ancient Egyptian philosophy has to do with the Christian Religion?

Please note on days chosen it is by odds of chance impossible that this isn't deliberate...mostly!
I'm going to look at all of the 46 Presidents in detail soon on a new thread in the next few weeks, as the only other explanation could be another entity is picking thes days, i don't want to go down that route, LOL!
We will be looking at strange aliens next if we do that!
tvtropes.org...

a reply to: Astronomer62

I'm not seeing anything in Ksig's link or any of yours that mentioned Sirius, where is the direct link?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Grenade

How is that relevant to the topic?

In the same way your relevant! This is a thread about the God star / Dog star and it is in the religious conspiracy forum. Also a belief in God its a masonic essential.

Happy days :-)

originally posted by: purplemer
In the same way your relevant!

My personal views are not relevant, which is why I posted the actual ritual and not just my opinion on it.

originally posted by: Astronomer62
a reply to: TzarChasm
Yes they are very strange beliefs, go back 4 hundred years, Protestants and Catholics were at war, and they were using Alnilam and Sirius, i don't know what ancient Egyptian philosophy has to do with the Christian Religion?

Please note on days chosen it is by odds of chance impossible that this isn't deliberate...mostly!
I'm going to look at all of the 46 Presidents in detail soon on a new thread in the next few weeks, as the only other explanation could be another entity is picking thes days, i don't want to go down that route, LOL!
We will be looking at strange aliens next if we do that!
tvtropes.org...

It's all superstition. There's no practical benefit to scheduling your life or world events around the stars. The zodiac is all bunk. Constellations are cool, and poetry based on constellations (including numerology) are amusing games to play, but ultimately there's no correlation between the fruits of our labors and celestial alignment or heavenly bodies being positioned just so. The government might practice that kind of mystical programming but it isn't necessary or even helpful.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Astronomer62

I'm not seeing anything in Ksig's link or any of yours that mentioned Sirius, where is the direct link?

I have pinned the link which shows that by astronomy on the day at location on 1st October 1928 in Cedar Rapids, which is date of establishment of the Philalethes Society, Ancient Egyptian day marker chosen being sunrise as Sirius culminates.
The links where only to give date of establishment, the proof is the astronomy in the location on that day.

a reply to: Astronomer62

Your personal hand drawings have nothing to do with Masonic ritual nor do they establish a link between Masonry and Sirius.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Astronomer62
a reply to: TzarChasm
Yes they are very strange beliefs, go back 4 hundred years, Protestants and Catholics were at war, and they were using Alnilam and Sirius, i don't know what ancient Egyptian philosophy has to do with the Christian Religion?

Please note on days chosen it is by odds of chance impossible that this isn't deliberate...mostly!
I'm going to look at all of the 46 Presidents in detail soon on a new thread in the next few weeks, as the only other explanation could be another entity is picking thes days, i don't want to go down that route, LOL!
We will be looking at strange aliens next if we do that!
tvtropes.org...

It's all superstition. There's no practical benefit to scheduling your life or world events around the stars. The zodiac is all bunk. Constellations are cool, and poetry based on constellations (including numerology) are amusing games to play, but ultimately there's no correlation between the fruits of our labors and celestial alignment or heavenly bodies being positioned just so. The government might practice that kind of mystical programming but it isn't necessary or even helpful.

Hi Tzarchasm,
If there is power in the stars, i sit on the fence over, however highly placed individuals in all our governments use days aligned to Sirius and Alnilam, i hardly find 9/11 "Amusing Games":-
www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Astronomer62

Your personal hand drawings have nothing to do with Masonic ritual nor do they establish a link between Masonry and Sirius.

Sirius can only align 12 days out of 365 in that area, be honest, these are correct astronomical alignments for the day, the reason i have written on the graphs is to make astronomy easier to understand, which obviously you don't, you are a spoiler with no real input, indeed half your input anywhere is about eating babies, which doesn't give you much street cred!
If you have problems understanding astronomy graphs, then ask Phage.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Whatever Albert Pikes belief's, he died in 1891, and "The House of the Temple" is aligned to Sirius 3 times by dates that were after he died, so it is fair to assume that it wasn't only Albert Pike who had those beliefs, link below:-
www.abovetopsecret.com...

You do understand that A. E. Waite was a member of the Philalethes Society, although not recorded below:-
en.wikipedia.org...

William Wynn Westcott was Master of Quatuor Coronati, which is the premier research lodge and highly respected within masonic circles:-
en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Astronomer62

You talk a lot but say very little. None of your hand drawn nonsense refutes the ritual I posted.

Go scribble more junk and get back to me.

a reply to: cherokeetroy

DNA is the motherboard, the brain is the CPU and the mind is the programmer. We are a system within a system within a system and we have been in this system (this universe) collecting & processing data for our DNA to integrate and store within our database. The information in this database are the tools that we use in order to improve the systems we are in or to advance into new ones

That's a really interesting concept - and one that may have some legs.

I'm still thinking about it....thanks.