The American Civil War of 2005 as predicted by John Titor

You're kidding right?
I can guarantee you no one of importance has ever heard of Titor or if they have they do not take that garbage seriously. You guys are in serious need of a reality check.


Also, if there was a civil war going on I can guarantee you Tasers would not be used
Don't be ridiculous.

John Titor: There is another Pope but I do not know his name.
Titor mentions “another pope” meaning there is only one pope after John Paul II, who is Benedictus XVI or Ratzinger, apparently the last Pope according to Titor.

For all of you who are interested to find out more with regards to my bold statement that the NEXT 9/11 NWO false flag terror attack will be on the Pope in Rome (and also Berlin and Paris) I encourage you to watch the 4-part video series below. It's enlightening to say the least. Please think about the implications of such a false flag terror attack on the Pope in Rome.

The Next NWO False Flag Terror Attack! The Pope! Part 1


The Next NWO False Flag Terror Attack! The Pope! Part 2


The Next NWO False Flag Terror Attack! The Pope! Part 3


The Next NWO False Flag Terror Attack! The Pope! Part 4

After you have watched the previous video series concerning the false flag terror attack on the Pope in Rome, I URGE you to watch these 5 extremely important and excellent videos from a 7-part video series explaining the setup for the New World Order by 2012 and explaining the political occultist motivation behind it.

Do you remember that John Titor mentioned he belonged to the militia group "The Fighting Diamondbacks?"

Well, if you do a research on the word "diamondback" you will find that the Aztecs and Mayans worshipped the planet Venus as their God “Kukulcan” or “Quetzalcoatl”. Now what’s really interesting is that Kukulcan/Quetzalcoatl is also called the Diamondback Rattlesnake.

I am pretty sure that John Titor mentioned the phrase "fighting diamondbacks" as a symbolic reference to fighting the political occultist movement (CFR/Illuminati/Trilateral Commission, etc.) of which members are so desperate to establish their one world religion new world order by 2012!

Now, I don’t blame you if you remain sceptic about this, BUT, after watching these videos, I am sure you will be able to make the right connections. THIS is your reality folks, better wake up NOW!


The 2012 NWO Agenda 3/7


The 2012 NWO Agenda 4/7


The 2012 NWO Agenda 5/7


The 2012 NWO Agenda 6/7


The 2012 NWO Agenda 7/7

Okay. Now that you must be wide awake, I will share this (last one for now) extremely important video with you. All I need to say is that the resistance against this revolting New World Order that John Titor was warning us about (thought cryptic) will come from BOTH SIDES.

Never Give Up Hope.. - The 9/11 New World Order by 2012


Greetings,

Roth Joint

Alot of work on those posts Roth...

Too bad nothing in them belongs in this thread. There are plenty of other more relevant threads to post that stuff in Roth. Here you're just going completely against what Titor stated. Titor specifically stated the NWO was NOT successful and all that 2012 mess is a bunch of nonsense started years ago by some New Age nut (transformed a bit now that CTs got their hands on it )

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Alot of work on those posts Roth...

Too bad nothing in them belongs in this thread. There are plenty of other more relevant threads to post that stuff in Roth. Here you're just going completely against what Titor stated. Titor specifically stated the NWO was NOT successful and all that 2012 mess is a bunch of nonsense started years ago by some New Age nut (transformed a bit now that CTs got their hands on it

)

Yes you are right. They indeed will NOT be succesful, but they are TRYING to establish their 9/11 UN/NATO/New World Order (NWO) right NOW! to be ready by 2012. And the videos expose their methods.

John Titor: "Yes, I think the New World Order idea tried to establish itself. I would consider them the combination of the old U.S. federal system, Europe, Canada and Australia"

As you can see, Titor even presents us the idea of the North American Union when mentioning Canada.. and no he doesn't mention Mexico, meaning the Mexican population, knowing what's happening, will heavily resist their NWO plans anyway.. that's why Titor said: "Texas is still there but Spanish is a lot more popular".. It's all going to happen folks.. very soon..

Resistance will come from BOTH sides.. and somehow I believe that you TJW.. will eventually join the good side as well.. perhaps in the way Schindler did back then..

[edit on 7-5-2008 by Roth Joint]

When it becomes apparent to everyone (rather than lofty intellectual hypothetical discussions of truth vs rumor) that the NWO is a real effort, people will align themselves quickly... either in support of it or not.


And I think the great vast majority will see the idea as inherently harmful and a disease on humanity.


Just know that evil men buy up valuable things with counterfeit money... but for you or I to get this same money we must work day after day for it. Isn't that just a clever disguise for slavery?


That system cannot continue. Nearly all of us have suffered from it. There will be no recruits to defend this evil.

Interesting posts Roth Joint, they are undoubtedly trying to establish a NWO.

The federal empire is using Plan B at this moment, trying to stop and control hostility in the US. It ranges from American Idol too the economic stimulus package, but in the end... after all the "non-leathal" weapon abuse, Waco type raids... The NWO will try to establish itself for a indefinite period, they're here now installing absurd pseudo laws and regulations for the environment and such, eventually wanting the worlds DNA regulated. It's really a Seven-Headed Beast competing for control.

Glyph_D contingency plan
Survival is the "contingency plan" adapt and survive. The evil empire and the wars ahead will be unforgiving... you must be prepared to fight to stay alive, because one day you may need it.

Be ready, be prepared!

[edit on 7-5-2008 by imitator]

Originally posted by Roth Joint
Yes you are right. They indeed will NOT be succesful

Then why in the world are you doing all this fear mongering.

As you can see, Titor even presents us the idea of the North American Union when mentioning Canada..

No. He mentions the countries in what's known as the West. Canada is part of the West.

and no he doesn't mention Mexico, meaning the Mexican population, knowing what's happening, will heavily resist their NWO plans anyway..

LOL
You're making up stuff as you go along. Titor never even hints this. Mexico isn't mentioned because they're a developing country and not part of the West.

that's why Titor said: "Texas is still there but Spanish is a lot more popular".. It's all going to happen folks.. very soon..

wtf?
Titor mentioned that statement because someone asked a question about Texas. They asked if Mexico took back Texas. This has nothing to do with what you're talking about.
Spanish is more popular because over 50% of the people there speak it as of now....

Resistance will come from BOTH sides.. and somehow I believe that you TJW.. will eventually join the good side as well.. perhaps in the way Schindler did back then..

wtf are you talking about?
Given the state of the world, anyone trying to establish a NWO now will fail miserably.
And even if one was even close to be successful I would NEVER in my life support it. Why in the world would you think that? Because I don't believe in Titor?? Get out of here with that BS Roth

and for this month's waco type event:

Philly police kick man while he's down!

rights? you have rights... you see... its quite legal to kick a man when he's down as long as the officer doing the kicking gets dismissed.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

lollipops and rainbows; reminds me of leave it to beaver!

/sarcasm

Sri Oracle

TJW, I and so many others can clearly see where this all is leading us to. Why can’t you see it? You MUST realize that you ARE supporting the New World Order SIMPLY because you are denying the construction of it at this present time, right now! The present situations in the world (WTO inflicted major food crisis as never seen before, inflation, oil prices, etc.) are perfect conditions to build a New World Order upon and this is called ‘Order from Chaos’ and we are living in that specific time period RIGHT NOW. I am wide awake TJW, WHY ARE YOU NOT?

And as we observed, THEY -the forces behind your government and their 2012 NWO agenda- are building their New World Order by inducing trauma and by fear mongering (9/11/2001) and they want their NWO to be READY by 2012, the year of Solar Maximum AND Venus Transit. In their minds, an historical event. If you have watched the videos I presented very closely, you’ll know by now that we are dealing with extremely dangerous intelligent SUPPORTERS of this political occultist agenda. I am talking about MUCH MORE intelligence, secret agencies and media powers as during the time of Nazi-Germany.

And as the videos show, it was Bush senior who announced that New World Order PUBLICLY and ONLY on the dates 09/11/1990 (SolarMax year) and precisely a year later on 09/11/1991. Bush senior stated they WILL BE successful in establishing the NWO, a New World Order under the Law of the United Nations, NOT the American Constitution. It’s what we call a fact. And I do NOT like that fact and so SHOULD YOU!

After traumatizing us with their 9/11 false flag terror attack, they used our trauma and this present U.S. administration to sign and install so many awful laws that WILL BE used AGAINST Americans, in order to serve that ‘9/11 New World Order’. We are betrayed, period. Our Constitution is betrayed and our Bill of Rights is trampled. Now they ONLY need to find the RIGHT TIME to apply ALL of these laws. And they need another ‘Pearl Harbor”. And that time is very, very soon. So now we really need to get off our asses to do something about that. And we need to be prepared for that next false flag terror attack.

We all know that Bill Clinton supports the idea of this New World Order. The now heavily criticised UK prime minister George Brown recently spoke of it and supports it. People are waking up now and especially to that New World Order Agenda. They do NOT want a global totalitarian United Nations NWO shoved down their throats, and THAT TJW, is a very good thing. But more work has to be done, now.

Rubber prices likely to increase due to shortage
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Some kinds of fertilizer have nearly tripled in price in the past year, keeping farmers from buying all they need. That is one of many factors that have contributed to the rise in food prices that, according to the UN World Food Program, threatens to push tens of millions of poor people into malnutrition.

Sri Oracle

Roth

Originally posted by Roth Joint
You MUST realize that you ARE supporting the New World Order SIMPLY because you are denying the construction of it at this present time, right now!

This is the biggest load of bull () you have posted so far. And you've posted A LOT of bull ().
I'm not supporting a THING about any NWO.

And you severely misinterpret what I am denying. I am NOT denying there are plenty of people out there (in power) who want a NWO. But given the way the world is now any attempts at establishing one right now would be HIGHLY unsuccessful. And since this is a Titor thread....Titor states the same thing. You are over here doing all this fear mongering about the coming NWO and I told you there are plenty of other threads that you can do your fear mongering in. This is a Titor thread, and as such topics should stick to Titor. If the NWO fails in Titor's world, then why are you trying to scare people?

I am wide awake TJW

You're wide awake in your bulls() fantasy world....

And as we observed, THEY -the forces behind your government and their 2012 NWO agenda-

Again, the 2012 stuff is a bunch of nonsense. Please research the origins of it.

are building their New World Order by inducing trauma and by fear mongering (9/11/2001)

Seems to be you're the only one doing the fear mongering around here....

and they want their NWO to be READY by 2012, the year of Solar Maximum AND Venus Transit.

Ohhhhh ahhhhh
It's in the staaars!!
LOL
Get real Roth. Research the origins of all the 2012 nonsense.



The rest of your post is typical unfactual crap you tend to post a lot and has nothing to do with Titor. If you would like to discuss this elsewhere in a more relevant thread, then please start a new thread...

Sri Oracle, great post!

TJW:
I truly hope you are right and I am wrong with regards to the establishment of the New World Order under the United Nations by 2012.

Unfortunately, it is a fact that George Bush senior announced it (see my previous post). And it doesn't matter if you or I believe that 2012 is BS, what matters is that THEY -the political supporters and builders of this New World Order- believe in it and they do! (see the videos) And their religious belief is based on the orbits and risings of Venus as well as the 11-year solar maximum sunspot cycle.

09/11/1990 Bush senior publicly pronounces a New World Order (solar maximum year)
09/11/1991 Bush senior publicly announces the New World Order (ritual circle around the sun)
09/11/2001 The 3 WTC towers fall to earth (solar maximum year)

We are in the midst of a war on our belief system that has everything to do with them forcing you to accept globalization and directing your mind to their United Nations New World Order solution. And they used the fear and trauma inducing false flag terror attacks for that. And they need to do it again, because we are not scared enough yet. And this is indeed a time-period to be vigilant and question their methods of undermining our democracy.

We will see what happens around the date of the Irish referendum on the 'Lisbon Treaty' on June 12, 2008 and after that and I encourage you once more to watch the videos I presented.

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
You're kidding right?
I can guarantee you no one of importance has ever heard of Titor or if they have they do not take that garbage seriously. You guys are in serious need of a reality check.

You are wrong, plain and simple. Wether the JT story is true or not, I know for a fact that people in high places have taken the story seriously. My uncle is a Command Master Cheif in the US Navy and works at the Pentagon when he isn't all over the planet doing something or other. Last time I saw him, his eyes almost bugged out of his head when I mentioned the Titor story. He explained to me that people much higher than him have made preperations just in case.

Also, if there was a civil war going on I can guarantee you Tasers would not be used

Don't be ridiculous.

Being ridiculous is saying that a very popular weapon that the police use on private citizens would not be used in the same exact way if the populace ever went against the government. You seem to have the idea that during a civil war, everyone will be trying to kill everyone else, not a police state type situation.

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Alot of work on those posts Roth...

Too bad nothing in them belongs in this thread. There are plenty of other more relevant threads to post that stuff in Roth. Here you're just going completely against what Titor stated. Titor specifically stated the NWO was NOT successful and all that 2012 mess is a bunch of nonsense started years ago by some New Age nut (transformed a bit now that CTs got their hands on it

)

It must be nice to just make things up and present them as fact. Those videos all point to things that support Titor, you just choose to ignore it.
He stated specifically, that something big DOES happen in 2012 but he wouldn't discuss it, not that it a "bunch of nonsense".

Yes, there are unusual events in 2012 but they do not cause the world to end. Unfortunately, I have decided not to discuss events that you or I can do anything about.

I have yet to hear someone say the the world will end in 2012, just that something imprtant will happen.

[edit on 11-5-2008 by Tiloke]

Originally posted by Tiloke
You are wrong, plain and simple. Wether the JT story is true or not, I know for a fact that people in high places have taken the story seriously. My uncle is a Command Master Cheif in the US Navy and works at the Pentagon when he isn't all over the planet doing something or other. Last time I saw him, his eyes almost bugged out of his head when I mentioned the Titor story. He explained to me that people much higher than him have made preperations just in case.

Couple explanations:
1. You're lying (likely)
2. You're "uncle" was pulling your chain (possibly)

Anyone with even the slightest hint of intelligence can see right through the Titor story.

And making preparations for what? For a civil war that was supposed to start 4 year ago?

Also what context did you mention the Titor story in?

Being ridiculous is saying that a very popular weapon that the police use on private citizens would not be used in the same exact way if the populace ever went against the government.

If the populace ever went against the government, they would use GUNS not tasers.
1. We're talking about a war here
2. Tasers have a very limited range
3. Tasers tend to only kill people with some sort of pre existing health condition or are high on drugs. If you're going to use a taser in a war you would have to first get everyone on the other side extremely high first
Then you would have to get close to them and hope they don't shoot you back. I guarantee you the other side wouldn't be using tasers.

Using tasers in a war isn't even bringing a knife to a gun fight. That's bringing a feather to a missile fight.

You seem to have the idea that during a civil war, everyone will be trying to kill everyone else, not a police state type situation.

Well gee I wonder why....
Maybe that's because it's a WAR.
About half the population of the U.S. is wiped out in this WAR. Does that sound like a "police" type situation to you?
Titor stated he joined the Shotgun infantry. If one side has infantry units and is in war mode, why wouldn't the other side be?

It must be nice to just make things up and present them as fact. Those videos all point to things that support Titor

Name one thing...

I have yet to hear someone say the the world will end in 2012

Look around this site and most of the 2012 websites.

just that something imprtant will happen.

A civil war is going on in the most powerful nation on earth and a nuclear war is about to break out. I would say a bunch of important things would be happening.

As far as the Mayan stuff (which really isn't the Mayan stuff, rather New Age stuff made up in the '70s) and all the conspiracy nonsense that has spun off from that, now that stuff is a bunch of crap.

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
3. Tasers tend to only kill people with some sort of pre existing health condition or are high on drugs. If you're going to use a taser in a war you would have to first get everyone on the other side extremely high first

There is a hidden brilliance in the flip side of your 3rd point.



Sri Oracle

Originally posted by Firestorm
It seems that 2008 is yet another key date to follow. It's a little frustrating to understand what he meant saying "...'by' 2008 you will find out." This could mean anything from starting,middle or end of 2008. Since his previous predictions before 2008 did not exactly offer a clear road map to the future (both overtly & covertly) than his predictions of 2008 and beyond must be taken at face value. Indeed if the civil war turns violent than there has to be a more accurate focal point (Olympics/Bike tires in 08) because peoples lives will be on the line. If there is a deviation meaning our future has changed than simply put his predictions cannot be relied upon. Therefore 'on' 2008 everyone will find out.
[edit on 19-12-2007 by Firestorm]

Olympics/Bike tires in 08, It seems that Gas prices are now giving Bike Sales, Repairs A Boost. Maybe this might have something to do with the bike tires.

link to the news report.

wcco.com...

[edit on 13-5-2008 by Pepsi]

You all need to read Titor again.

The ONLY times he mentioned 2008 was when he stated the war would be on everyone's doorstep and the world as we once knew it was over. The war had gotten to the point of no return.


The bike thing he just mentioned, and the Olympics he said no more after 2004. We had them in 2006.



Funny how you guys are still pushing the dates back. How long will you keep this up. First it was 2004 2004 2004 2004, 2004 came and nothing. Then it was 2005 2005 2005 2005, 2005 came and nothing. Now it's 2008 2008 2008 2008, 2008 is here and still nothing. Next it will be 2012 2012 2012 2012, 2012 will come and still nothing. Guarantee it. Then it'll be 2015, then 2020, then 2036.... You guys won't give up will you?

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
You all need to read Titor again.

The ONLY times he mentioned 2008 was when he stated the war would be on everyone's doorstep and the world as we once knew it was over. The war had gotten to the point of no return.


The bike thing he just mentioned, and the Olympics he said no more after 2004. We had them in 2006.



Funny how you guys are still pushing the dates back. How long will you keep this up. First it was 2004 2004 2004 2004, 2004 came and nothing. Then it was 2005 2005 2005 2005, 2005 came and nothing. Now it's 2008 2008 2008 2008, 2008 is here and still nothing. Next it will be 2012 2012 2012 2012, 2012 will come and still nothing. Guarantee it. Then it'll be 2015, then 2020, then 2036.... You guys won't give up will you?

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I'd like to point out that 2012 has been used in well over the 50 years speculations i've had time to reach back to (not me im not that old, but its been bothering people I know for that long)