The American Civil War of 2005 as predicted by John Titor

Sorry, weird double post. The rewrite was better and more concise anyway. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[edit on 11-6-2008 by sir_chancealot]

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
... BTW Bush Sr. made that speech on March 6, 1991 (after the first gulf war was done.) I remember it very clearly. YOU are the one who needs to do you research and stop going by what extremely biased propaganda internet videos are telling you. ...

The above quote references the "New World Order" phrase said by George H. W. Bush.

You sir, are incorrect. And I will offer DEFINITIVE PROOF in Just a second.

First, here is a link to all the speeches he gave on March 6, 1991.
# [1990-03-06] Remarks at the Welcoming Ceremony for Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti of Italy
# [1990-03-06] Exchange With Reporters Prior to a Meeting With Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti of Italy
# [1990-03-06] Remarks to the American Society of Association Executives
# [1990-03-06] Nomination of Jo Anne B. Barnhart To Be an Assistant Secretary of Health and Human Services
# [1990-03-06] Statement on Signing a Bill Extending the Authorization for School Dropout Demonstration Programs
# [1990-03-06] Toasts at the State Dinner for Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti of Italy

Those links can be found at bushlibrary.tamu.edu...

Please note that the address listed above is the OFFICIAL BUSH SR. PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY.

Here is a portion of his speech from September 11, 1990.

... We stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective -- a new world order -- can emerge: a new era -- freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace. ...

That quote is from bushlibrary.tamu.edu...

Please note again, that the September 11, 1990 speech referencing a "New World Order" COMES DIRECTLY FROM GEORGE H. W. BUSH'S OWN PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY. Unless, of course, you care to claim his own library is somehow "extremely biased propaganda"?

US food running out

This will sure help peace. Also, the attacks on 911 truthers like that guy who is in court right now because the police made up charges against him saying that he attacked a woman in a wheelchair. Ect...

The whole thing can go to hell pretty fast. Let's see a worse case scenario with the data we have now.

- No more food reserves which causes a rush on stores
- No more oil due to a war in the middle-east
- The dollar implodes
- Over 1000 banks go bankrupt overnight
- Hillary is VP and Obama get killed
- Iran is attacked
- A nuke explodes in NY or Washington, martial law is declared
- The rounding up of dissenters start
- During a peaceful protest, police fire in the crowd, dozens killed on live TV

A lot of things can happen that would lead to chaos in a matter of hours.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Ok. I say that WW2 started in March 39, when Hitler invaded Austria. Am I right? So there, I diverge from history, but still, I'm right. Some say that it started in 1914. Some in 18, some in 33. Different people interprets a same thing differently. That's just my point.

Who cares.
The fact is WAR, meaning fighting, started in 2004 according to Titor. Period.

What did you think he would say? Define civil war. Well he couldn't say anything else. The question was too specific. If he meant war, how come he just say that open fighting was near everywhere in 2012? And people only figured out their way of life was over in 2008?

What?
Wars don't just appear everywhere at once. It started in 2004 and by 2008 the WAR had grown large enough to spread to everyone's doorstep in the U.S. Meaning all 50 states are seeing fighting.
His 2012 quotes were in response to specific questions about 2012. He was not going by some timeline.
He was just describing the U.S. Of course open fighting is everywhere in 2012, that's because the war is now 7 years old
JT: "In my 2012, I was 14 years old spending most of my time living, running and hiding in the woods and rivers of central Florida. The civil war was in its 7th year"

John Titor was already in the "rebel" army now (he joined at age 13). If John Titor's side already has an army then that means fighting has been going on for YEARS.

You're kidding yourself if people wouldn't see that their way of life was over BEFORE 2008 if there was open shooting and WACO events (with hundreds of deads civilians) every month. It would be much more sooner.

So you agree Titor was a hoax. Thanks!



The rest of your post is crap...


Sir chancealot:

The above quote references the "New World Order" phrase said by George H. W. Bush.

You sir, are incorrect.

Read the rest of the conversation buddy. We straightened all this out. All the quotes and links have been posted....

Burning and Looting - Bob Marley

This morning I woke up in a curfew, oh God, I was a prisoner too.
I cannot recognize the faces standing over me.
They were all dressed in uniforms of brutality.
How many rivers do we have to cross, before we get to talk to the boss?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Cedar Rapids Iowa

No warrant, no knock home invasions are being carried out on the flimsy pretext of "checking for structural damage" as cops harass and threaten with arrest people who refuse to have their homes ransacked by thugs in uniforms.
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People who attempt to gain access to their home before it has been "cleared" by authorities are being apprehended, and those who attempt to drive around police checkpoints that have been set up in the affected areas are arrested at gunpoint.

I know tjw... nothing to see here... all is well...

I was told yesterday that I could not use my estwing 22 framing hammer to frame on the job site... all structural nails now had to be "installed at 120 psi by machine" in city limits.

fascism

I see waco, again, again, again...

and yet again,

Sri Oracle

[edit on 18-6-2008 by Sri Oracle]

I laugh and cry, and I will always do.

This John Titor made great hoax predicting USA Civil War 2005 and surprisingly this topic carried on till 20th June 2008.
People are especially U.S. American hungry and starving for some terror horror and morron entertainments, they let themselves worried almost 3 years by old jokes of jokers John Titor.

By the way, what is your average weight U.S. American? Aren't you over weight a..k.a FAT? where did you get that fat from? You ate too much animals? You cannibals? Where did you get that animals? From those countries you rob?

[edit on 18-6-2008 by cheebay]

U.S. 'plans to neutralize Russian nuclear weapons by 2012-2015
Russia would only strike first if they were threatened or believed to be threatened.

Death threats against 911 truthers
And it's not the first time, they did it on MSNBC, CNN, Fox News... they want us dead, in Guantanamo, tortured... it's only a matter of time before they begin killing us.


KFI 640 Los Angeles Mocks Call to Kill Anti-War Activists
Again, DEFENDING death threats against 911 truthers, the real patriots of this country.

RBS issues global stock and credit crash alert
A little something to wake people up, an economic crash.

Oklahoma to feds: Don't tread on me
Yeah what happenned last time states challenged the federal government? A civil war. And what Titor said was that it was about rights and that it's was above race or anything else.

Bush: Use of force on Iran not ruled out
More wake up call.

Employers ponder tough tactics to halt smoking
More government control, but i'm sure you like it TJW.

Tracking of children by RFID to begin in Rhode Island
More control.

Control over lightbulbs

Defending checkpoints ... yeah that some real americanism!

[edit on 18-6-2008 by Vitchilo]

On the continued subject of home invasions:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Police enter a man's home, climb to his second story bedroom, while he is sleeping, to tell him his door is unlocked.

ORDER AND RIGHTS,

Sri Oracle

Originally posted by Sri Oracle
I know tjw... nothing to see here... all is well...

wtf you say my name for?

When have I EVER said all is well? Never.

Don't put words in my mouth. Thanks.





(and on a side note: you're linking things from infowars/prisonplanet?? They spew WAY more propaganda than the White House.)

Fourth Amendment gone
Russia says missile defense talks with U.S. stalled
Yeah that will surely help NATO-Russia relations.

Four Russian strategic bombers patrol Arctic, Atlantic oceans
Why are they doing that? Maybe they think that they are next in the future?

Ireland under Franco-German pressure to hold new EU vote
Democracy? HAHAHAHAHHA.

Hillary Clinton to join Barack Obama on campaign trail in White House race
So much for change.

Russia warns against attacking Iran
Russia would be pissed if the US would attack Iran wouldn't it?

Obama defends new FISA bill as 'compromise'
Change? HAHAHAHAHA.

AP: Everything seemingly is spinning out of control
More americans waking up to the fact that the world is going down the drain?

And TJW, you said that the break down of society was impossible... just take a look at what happenned with Katrina, it took what... a week before there was looting and violence? And the whole system outside the area was working... imagine that in most big cities? Add no more food, no more oil and bank failures? Imagine that in LA or New York or Detroit? Yeah it would end well.

[edit on 22-6-2008 by Vitchilo]

The conflict was not about taking and holding ground
It was about order and rights.

Old geographical boundaries are breaking down...

as theological and political allegiances take over.

Anglican Schism
news.bbc.co.uk...
news.bbc.co.uk...
news.bbc.co.uk...

Sri Oracle

[edit on 22-6-2008 by Sri Oracle]

Originally posted by Vitchilo
And TJW, you said that the break down of society was impossible...

Are you insane?
I challenge you to quote me on that or anything even remotely close to that. I'll wait...



And Sri, I take it now you're going to explain what your last post has to do with anything? Seriously, that's not even close to anything relevant ANYWHERE in this thread and certainly not to anything Titor said
You seem to be just finding random articles and posting them here, whether they have anything to do with Titor or not. You do realize this is a pretty big site right and there are other threads besides this one?

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 335
21. Yes, homosexuals are in the army. You tend to look past the individual differences of people when thier job is to protect your life.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 336
22. Yes, there are �gay� people in 2036.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 349
38, 39. My comments on equal rights and �women�s roles� could be quite lengthy and controversial. I wish to discuss that separately. However, women do fight in the military just as the men do but their role on the community level is very conservative.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 351
41. Yes, there are same sex marriages but it�s not very common. Again, people have lived through so much hardship that if what someone else is doing does not affect them or harm the community, it�s not a big issue.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Angelican schism is about parts of the US branch of the Angelican church splitting from the Church of England over gay rights and the role of women.

Read the three above reverenced articles for more specific information.

Sri Oracle

Well this years Titorite convention is over. Been hosting this thing for three years now. If you search you can find my announcement for it here and other places online. As Usual only one person showed up but at least it was a new person like normal. I got some great homestead tips and shared my Rife machine with yet another new person.

BTW if you believe the story of Titor and want a defense against CJD I HIGHLY recommend getting a Rife machine. You can go through direct distrubuters or ebay...however the ebay adds are also cluttered with rife putters.

I did my best to bring those of us that understand and believe together.

If 2009 comes around I shall host the next titorite meeting in june of that year...

But I really think our time is up.

We invaded iraq of BS that was not there and the man that committed fraud to get his war is still in office.

Our civil rights are right down the tube.

The trivial poem "A soldiers winter" has been written by a soldier who had never heard of Titor.

Now Hillary is supporting obama and the olymipcs are looking shaky.

And still the stubborn will deny whatever makes them happy Titor said that even in his time their were still people that did not believe in Timetravel.

So all that said yeah. I think our time to gather is pretty much up. Things will continue to get worse and those of us that have made ready for it ARE ready and those that refused to believe what was spelled out for them will likely stay in the cities.

Originally posted by Sri Oracle
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Angelican schism is about parts of the US branch of the Angelican church splitting from the Church of England over gay rights and the role of women.

Read the three above reverenced articles for more specific information.

Sri Oracle

What?
I could care less. This still has NOTHING to do with Titor.

You're Titor quotes have absolutely nothing to do with the stories you posted. You just posted random titor quotes that may have one or two similar words but they are completely irrelevant to the stories you posted.

I have from good sources that most rich people are leaving Israel and the US and are fleeing to Europe, Saudi Arabia, Dubai and to little islands in the south pacific.

Probably they plan something for Israel. Like when the US economy totally collapse, Israel will lose it's support in $$$.

Also, now 44% of americans approve of torture. Which is really bad... that reduce the value of life of everybody. Even if we already saw that when nobody get angry about iraqis being killed, but get angry with puppies being killed.

Mandatory In-Car Breathalyzers Coming? More freedom!

McCain says only World War III would justify draft Draft talk...

Here is a thread on Fark.com where a lot of people are for the draft... because they know that the military can't fight anymore.

Another fark thread, where a lot of people are saying that Israel should go fark itself and fight Iran alone, and that by asking the US to fight an Iran war, they've crossed the line... losing support for Israel?

Russia prepares for future combat in the Arctic

Russia Investing In Nuclear Capabilities Not Regular Forces Nuclear forces...

China Deploys Bomber Coverage Of Korea And Taiwan From Shandong Peninsula ... covering South Korea...

About Israel. What if there's a limited strike in Iran done by Israel alone or with the help of the US. Also, we know that the impact would be limited and would only set back Iran for a couple of months/years depending on the effect of the strike. So. Iran have been bombed, only limited damage, hezbollah don't move, nor Syria. From IAEA estimates, if Iran wanted to develop the bomb, they could do it in a year. So. 2009, the US economy implodes because of the strike on Iran, making oil go up to 300$ a barrel, crashing the US... leading people to hate Israel because it have brought them misery. 2010-2011. Iran develop nukes and give them to Syria and Hizbullah. Then they test one but don't move. Iran invade Iraq and cut off the supply lines of US troops in Irak. Obama/McCain declare a draft to fight Iran and to ``save the troops`` in Iraq and surround Iran by putting troops in Afghanistan. Iran launch it all when they start being bombed and it ends in a middle-east nuclear war. A lot of those troops in the middle-east die, most of the middle-east is wiped out. That's just a scenario.

Police Union Standing By Mexican Militia Reports

Police documents show that at least one of the suspects involved in a home invasion and homicide were active members of the Mexican Army.

The mexicans farking around... and killing americans. And that is nothing.

Texas Real Estate Slump Gives Mexicans a Chance to Take It Back Mexicans buying US land to give it back to Mexico... also not in the news, rockets attacks, car bombings, grenade attacks on journalism offices, drug smuggling by the mexican drugs cartels helped by the mexican army. Also, towns where english isn't allowed in the court, and there's a mexican flag instead of an american flag flying over those towns. That will sure help peace between citizens.

And secession, there's no just Oklahoma talking about it, there's New Hampshire, Arizona, North Dakota, Montana and Texas. There's also the second amendment ruling that isn't pro-second amendment at all, it keeps saying that it can be restricted by law... which means that it can be like New York or Canada... gun bans.

A quarter of adults to face 'anti-paedophile' tests The government owns your children. Another police state mesure and it will come here.

Saakashvili says Russia a threat to ex-Soviet states: report Russia a threat... yeah like NATO isn't a threat to anyone...

Your ``North American Union`` that doesn't exists TJW... at least for now the TTC/NAFTA superhighway plans have been defeated.

People living in their cars now!

Wall Street plunges towards worst month since the Great Depression of the early 1930s

Barack Obama calls Iran a 'threat' Here's your ``change``.

[edit on 27-6-2008 by Vitchilo]

Wow titorite , can't believe I've been missing out on the Titorite conventions, and maybe a Rife machine salesman too.... Speaking of getting ready, we're in the prelude of events.... terrorist' attacks, economy, limited natural resources, Middle East conflict, loss of liberties, globalized government, and to what follows War and population reduction..so on...... If anyone is not ready now, then it's already to late.

Police defend SWAT-team raid on party at social club

video showing stun grenades exploding and SWAT officers pointing assault weapons at people kneeling in a hallway.
“It looked to me like the Chicago Police Department is engaging in military-type activity,” said attorney George Becker after filing a $10 million federal lawsuit against the city, adding that his clients thought they were being robbed.

Taser trial a 'total farce'

VIDEO: CBS: Report predicts $7/gallon gas'

America's Shrinking Groceries'

There’s A Press Blackout on S 1959, the Thought Crime Prevention Bill; Why?

The Role of Homeland Security in the May 30 Arrest of anti-Pesticide Demonstrators

FBI might use profiling in terror investigations

Utility Workers Hired As Stasi Informants In Colorado, California, Arizona

World Bank Chief: World Entering Danger Zone

Pentagon Warns Against Israeli Attack on Iran

Here you go Sri, though you probably use electric wire instead of barbed.....

Fed-Up Families Turn To Barbed Wire, Shotguns To Police Neighborhood

Vitchilo
Your ``North American Union`` that doesn't exists TJW... at least for now the TTC/NAFTA superhighway plans have been defeated.

And remember, the TTC/NAFTA superhighway never existed... but it's been canceled... Though it's relocated and giving another name. www.nascogto.com...

Originally posted by imitator
Fed-Up Families Turn To Barbed Wire, Shotguns To Police Neighborhood

Families in a crime-ridden Central Florida neighborhood are arming themselves with shotguns
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"Somebody is going to end up getting hurt," resident Andrea Fine said. "The homeowners are tense. We are all on edge. For the first time in my life I'm really scared to live in my home."
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She is one of several residents who have armed themselves and plan to go to extremes to protect their property.
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"I'm shooting the next person who comes in. Don't come on my property anymore."

Titor:

I live in central Florida with my family and I'm currently stationed at an Army base in Tampa.
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When I was 13, I was a soldier.
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My first experience with war came when I joined a shotgun infantry unit at the age of thirteen.

www.johntitor.com...


Nice article imitator, I also enjoyed the articles on S 1959 and the Utility Stasi's.


Sri Oracle


[edit on 3-7-2008 by Sri Oracle]

I would think that the latest obvious entry here about "Waco Type events" would be the raiding of the FDLS compound in Texas. Done with absolutely no evidence whatsoever.

At the start of the year, I stumbled upon this article, which reminded me of Titor. Read to the very bottom.