It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Everything that exists has a soul, i mean really!?

page: 2
31
<< 1    3  4  5 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 01:30 PM
link   

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: SourceTruth
There are indeed people without souls.

This is a matrix reality that souls are plugged into. The rest are part of the matrix experience. They are like the non playable characters of a video game.


Prove it.

Better yet, prove YOU have a soul.


I can prove I have a soul because I have hidden knowledge about the matrix and how you can escape.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 01:31 PM
link   

originally posted by: SourceTruth

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: SourceTruth
There are indeed people without souls.

This is a matrix reality that souls are plugged into. The rest are part of the matrix experience. They are like the non playable characters of a video game.


Prove it.

Better yet, prove YOU have a soul.


I can prove I have a soul because I have hidden knowledge about the matrix and how you can escape.


So I’m still waiting for you to prove you have a soul.

It’s almost as if you can’t.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 02:09 PM
link   

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: SourceTruth

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: SourceTruth
There are indeed people without souls.

This is a matrix reality that souls are plugged into. The rest are part of the matrix experience. They are like the non playable characters of a video game.


Prove it.

Better yet, prove YOU have a soul.


I can prove I have a soul because I have hidden knowledge about the matrix and how you can escape.


So I’m still waiting for you to prove you have a soul.

It’s almost as if you can’t.

I already have, because I have proven that I am connected to source through the knowledge I have shared which comes from source.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 02:13 PM
link   
a reply to: Omniview

In trying to understand quantum mechanics better, some scientists have put forth a theory that all matter has at the very least some consciousness. Your OP sorta reminded me of that.

If even the smallest atom had a small degree of awareness or consciousness, you'd think anyway if this theory was correct, that it'd have some, or even a large, impact on evolution.






edit on 19-9-2019 by ghaleon12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 02:20 PM
link   

originally posted by: ghaleon12
a reply to: Omniview

In trying to understand quantum mechanics better, some scientists have put forth a theory that all matter has at the very least some consciousness. Your OP sorta reminded me of that.

If even the smallest atom had a small degree of awareness or consciousness, you'd think anyway if this theory was correct, that it'd have some, or even a large, impact on evolution.




It doesn't make sense for anything that is not a brain to have consciousness.
This is what happens when you try to claim that all human beings are conscious souls, you start to have to ascribe consciousness as a property of an object such as the brain, and you can then extend this to other objects. This is what leads you to wrong conclusions, so because of this, then it must be true that not everyone has a soul in order to avoid this.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 02:23 PM
link   

originally posted by: SourceTruth

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: SourceTruth

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: SourceTruth
There are indeed people without souls.

This is a matrix reality that souls are plugged into. The rest are part of the matrix experience. They are like the non playable characters of a video game.


Prove it.

Better yet, prove YOU have a soul.


I can prove I have a soul because I have hidden knowledge about the matrix and how you can escape.


So I’m still waiting for you to prove you have a soul.

It’s almost as if you can’t.

I already have, because I have proven that I am connected to source through the knowledge I have shared which comes from source.


Yeah no.

An NPC would say that they are connected to the source, just to make you believe they have a soul.

Nice try, but epic fail.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 03:32 PM
link   

originally posted by: TerryDon79

Yeah no.

An NPC would say that they are connected to the source, just to make you believe they have a soul.

Nice try, but epic fail.


But I have proved it through the unique knowledge I have given that I am connected to source.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 03:39 PM
link   
a reply to: SourceTruth

Proving it to yourself and proving it to "the world" are two very different things.

In fact, the former is so problematic and difficult that we created science.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 04:07 PM
link   

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: SourceTruth

Proving it to yourself and proving it to "the world" are two very different things.

In fact, the former is so problematic and difficult that we created science.


The knowledge I am talking about applies only to source players (the souls). Those are the ones that it can be proven to. The rest are simply soulless ones so it cannot be.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 04:32 PM
link   
a reply to: SourceTruth

Thats the perspective that, among other facets both modern and ancient, gave birth to science.

"Youll only understand if you are a true believer." Its the foundation behind nearly every belief system that has or does exist. Many of which involve a great extent of brainwashing and programming before you are "initiated."

Now, I certainly dont believe a scientific approach is flawless. Its based on the premise that we are capable of understanding what we are exploring in the first place, and that it will fit in a framework that will adhere to human abstraction.

That may very well not be true. But, its just about the best we have come up with and as a concept, can even be used to explore very "woo" areas. Its a balance though, obviously, since strict adherence to the method relies on our Cultural Story as well as the notion that it will fit in an acceptable framework that is limited by human capability.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 05:25 PM
link   
Does it not seem that we are somehow always focusing on the high-collision intersections ?

You know: the main points of contention in this thread, resembles many past points of argument.
The points where beliefs and opinions clash with the beliefs and opinions of others.

"No you're wrong. Because bla-bla-bla..."

We could use these 'high-collision intersections', to observe, and deconstruct our own belief structures.
But alas: not too many willing to go there, beyond solid ground, into the 'unknown' ?

Folks: the subject of 'souls': is not on any kind of solid ground.
It's all beliefs, opinions, conjecture, concepts, ideas, etc.....
No science, no facts.
But that's fine, no problemo.
Just please don't disparage others, for not having the same beliefs as you.





posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 05:41 PM
link   
a reply to: Nothin

I agree with you. We should discuss our differing viewpoints and deconstruct them instead of simply arguing about them.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 05:41 PM
link   
a reply to: Nothin

I agree with you. We should discuss our differing viewpoints and deconstruct them instead of simply arguing about them.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 05:42 PM
link   
a reply to: Serdgiam

What I mean by my statement by that is deeper than that. It is not about if they believe it, it is about if they have a soul or not. If a soulless one does the same things that I would tell a souled person to dowith respect to this knowledge, the soul will benefit while the soulless one will not benefit in the same way.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 06:08 PM
link   
Meh, all living things may have a spirit, but not a soul. The soul is conscience, or sentience. Both exist in us, but not necessarily in an animal.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 06:20 PM
link   
a reply to: Omniview

I agree with your post! I think if people start thinking certain groups who have different opinions than them don't have souls, this is very dangerous and definitely false!

All that is happening with people who think this is that they are dehumanizing others. It is not healthy for them to do this and could result in them making decisions that could have a negative impact on their karma and even afterlife.

Hopefully, this doesn't go mainstream! I wouldn't want conservatives to start thinking liberals don't have souls or visa Versa... they would have to be idiots to think this.

edit on 19pmThu, 19 Sep 2019 18:21:40 -0500kbpmkAmerica/Chicago by darkbake because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 06:24 PM
link   

originally posted by: willzilla
Meh, all living things may have a spirit, but not a soul. The soul is conscience, or sentience. Both exist in us, but not necessarily in an animal.

This is right. What the original poster is describing in his original post is that all humans have a spirit, but this is not the same as all humans having a soul



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 06:25 PM
link   

originally posted by: SourceTruth
a reply to: Nothin

I agree with you. We should discuss our differing viewpoints and deconstruct them instead of simply arguing about them.


A star for your willingness, and openness !

Am hoping other members will chime-in, because am not the sharpest shed with unused tools inside... LoL !

Any preference for a starting point ?



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 06:35 PM
link   

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: SourceTruth
a reply to: Nothin

I agree with you. We should discuss our differing viewpoints and deconstruct them instead of simply arguing about them.


A star for your willingness, and openness !

Am hoping other members will chime-in, because am not the sharpest shed with unused tools inside... LoL !

Any preference for a starting point ?


I hope that other members will try to participate in this discussion, but from what I have seen there are too many of them that just want to clash with you.

We will start by deconstructing the idea that everyone has consciousness.
What is it that makes a human being conscious? That is what we will start with.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 06:50 PM
link   
a reply to: SourceTruth

Yes. Of course it's always harder to examine our own beliefs and opinions.
So perhaps if we start with this: we can find some kind of method, or 'fashion', to carry-on later with.

What is consciousness ?
What would be an agreeable, objective indicator, to seeing if another person, or 'thing', has consciousness ?



new topics

top topics



 
31
<< 1    3  4  5 >>

log in

join