Everyone Needs to Condemn China over Hong Kong Right Now!!

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: pavil

Let them decide their own laws ECT.

And as for letting them deicde their own laws? lolz.

Why is that funny?

a reply to: muzzleflash

Americans are the ones deciding which laws and which companies to own in Kosovo just like how Albright and others own several operations already.

Americans really never give anyone self independence unless you become their puppet. All the parties and politicians in Kosovo are just another example of this if an American politician says something they will do it.

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: muzzleflash

You might as well support the Jihadists in Syria while your at it. Its clear why these protests are happening and its happening because lets be hoenst America is losing its grounds in Syria.

I am not so stupid into following into these regime change tactics backed by NGOs.

What?

So you're saying that HK wants freedom because the USA is losing in Syria and that it's a fake protest instigated by NGOs??

And since I support the people of Hong Kong I should support Jihadist terrorists??

Ok ummmm.... I don't think anyone is going to take you seriously here, you're out of your mind.

a reply to: muzzleflash

But to claim or suggest that China is not going to win over its own borders over HK is rather wishful thinking.

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: muzzleflash


Americans really never give anyone self independence unless you become their puppet.

That doesn't even make sense.

So we give them freedom only if they let us dictate everything?
hahahhaha

a reply to: Kryscent

You don't get it do you? Those people making those things get paid #/day, get treated like slaves. losing their jobs would probably be better for them. 
Them staying in those #ty jobs (and making overpriced #ty stuff for the greedy west) is what keeps their corrupt system going. 
sadly, 100 people in the west not buying those products won't make a difference. 
In any case, by all means you move to China, deal with heavy censorship, no ATS, no FB, no Google (or its products) and the intrusive social score. 

I lived and worked in China for years. Unlike you, I have actually seen and travelled china. So you can say I know more about China than you.

As for you saying chinese people would most prob be better off if they did not work for a low wage. You know how stupid that sounds. What would happen if suddenly people in your country decided not to work? Your country would fall pretty much straight after. And what would happen to you and your family? No food, no money for health, lose your home etc etc You think that would not happen in China?

Use your head!

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: muzzleflash

But to claim or suggest that China is not going to win over its own borders over HK is rather wishful thinking.

This war is much bigger than HK.
China may sack the city but that only speeds up the eventual collapse of the repressive regime.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Ok ummmm.... I don't think anyone is going to take you seriously here, you're out of your mind.

LOL just because I am not bending over to support the NGO/ Color Revolution style protests in HK? everyone has a different opinion on the matter. If you don't like that's fine. And if you don't believe that the American gov are behind the protests in HK is rather ironic.

originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: Kryscent

You don't get it do you? Those people making those things get paid #/day, get treated like slaves. losing their jobs would probably be better for them. 
Them staying in those #ty jobs (and making overpriced #ty stuff for the greedy west) is what keeps their corrupt system going. 
sadly, 100 people in the west not buying those products won't make a difference. 
In any case, by all means you move to China, deal with heavy censorship, no ATS, no FB, no Google (or its products) and the intrusive social score. 

I lived and worked in China for years. Unlike you, I have actually seen and travelled china. So you can say I know more about China than you.

As for you saying chinese people would most prob be better off if they did not work for a low wage. You know how stupid that sounds. What would happen if suddenly people in your country decided not to work? Your country would fall pretty much straight after. And what would happen to you and your family? No food, no money for health, lose your home etc etc You think that would not happen in China?

Use your head!

Are you suggesting that the only way people in China will have food or jobs is if they bow down to the Communist Party running the nation?

That no other form of Govt will provide/facilitate an economy for jobs or food?

Well than how do non-communist nations feed themselves or have jobs?

a reply to: muzzleflash

America and Brittan would love to reown HK so they could build a base and watch over China and Asia that is the end result NeoCon.

NeoCons are loving what is happening in HK.

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: muzzleflash

Ok ummmm.... I don't think anyone is going to take you seriously here, you're out of your mind.

LOL just because I am not bending over to support the NGO/ Color Revolution style protests in HK? everyone has a different opinion on the matter. If you don't like that's fine. And if you don't believe that the American gov are behind the protests in HK is rather ironic.

That's not what the word ironic means. You definitely don't understand English very well.

Irony is when things happen the opposite way that it's expected and it usually causes amusement because of that fact.

a reply to: muzzleflash

I think the people of Hong Kong are on there own at this point. No government is going to intervene and threaten China...that just wouldn't be good for there personal interests or the global economy as a whole.

At this point, (sad as it is to say) the MSM is probably the only thing holding China back from sending in anti-protest police and crushing the uprising.

Good luck to em...

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: muzzleflash

America and Brittan would love to reown HK so they could build a base and watch over China and Asia that is the end result NeoCon.

NeoCons are loving what is happening in HK.

I'm not a NeoCon, I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

NeoCons are a completely different breed of political mindset.

a reply to: pavil

Sure some Western companies would be hurt but it would be a mortal wound to China. Without being able to export, they would be dead in the water. The West would be in a shock recession till they moved all that production either home or someplace else. Then our economy would be pumping out very high GDP. 

In the long-term it would kill China and help the West.

Only some western countries will be hurt? Are you serious? Do you know how many companies use China trade? In the west, thousands, and you think this would not hugely effect western economies. It would effect everyone.

You make it sound straight forward. Only people who do not think, think this is straight forward.

a reply to: muzzleflash

This clearly shows you know nothing of China.

Well than how do non-communist nations feed themselves or have jobs?

I can see how great Western Europe and some parts in America is doing lately with the ever growing high cost of living.

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: muzzleflash

America and Brittan would love to reown HK so they could build a base and watch over China and Asia that is the end result NeoCon.

NeoCons are loving what is happening in HK.

More like they helped establish a capitalist system that had been thriving for decades. Why would HK want to go back?

How is that NeoCon? Is HK just NeoCon activists to you?

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: muzzleflash

I think the people of Hong Kong are on there own at this point. No government is going to intervene and threaten China...that just wouldn't be good for there personal interests or the global economy as a whole.

At this point, (sad as it is to say) the MSM is probably the only thing holding China back from sending in anti-protest police and crushing the uprising.

Good luck to em...

Sadly you're right, I'm afraid.

The Chinese govt is just itching to go crack some skulls though. They are foaming at the mouth over this.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: muzzleflash

I think the people of Hong Kong are on there own at this point. No government is going to intervene and threaten China...that just wouldn't be good for there personal interests or the global economy as a whole.

At this point, (sad as it is to say) the MSM is probably the only thing holding China back from sending in anti-protest police and crushing the uprising.

Good luck to em...

As much as I disagree with you on almost everything political, you make good points here and there. This is exactly what I was pointing out pages ago.

a reply to: muzzleflash


A wise man once said never threaten a sleeping dragon because once you upset things will be bad. I just hope some in Western Countries realize this.

HK is one place where America and Western countries pretty much cant do anything about expect insults and threats. Look at Canada. Canada was playing it safe because they know if they start threating China could hurt Canada's economy.

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: muzzleflash

This clearly shows you know nothing of China.

Well than how do non-communist nations feed themselves or have jobs?

I can see how great Western Europe and some parts in America is doing lately with the ever growing high cost of living.

Yeah we are doing a hell of a lot better than China is. Poor people in the West are rich.

In fact, if it wasn't for China giving up some of it's Communist ideals and embracing capitalism and foreign trade, they would all still be starving there. The Communist party's days are clearly numbered and it's on it's way out.

I bet I know way more about Chinese history than you do, I've studied it for years, including Chinese law history. I've met plenty of people from China that grew up there and they don't even know half of the stuff I ask them about.