Everyone Needs to Condemn China over Hong Kong Right Now!!

I believe everyone should take a read at this. This a good read
The U.S. Stunt In Hong Kong Will Make Other Issues More Difficult

Lee and other U.S. stooges organized large demonstrations against an extradition bill which would allow the government to send people who committed crimes in mainland China, Taiwan and Macau to those provinces where the crime was committed to receive their punishment.

Hong Kong already has similar agreements with foreign countries.

Their aims are clearly unachievable and racist nonsense:

As that outcome was totally predictable one wonders why the Trump administration bothered to launch such nonsense. It will only make it more difficult to solve other problems, like North Korea or global trade, over which China has influence.

The American gov and the admin under Trump is playing a very dangerous move. Even though this was written in July this still holds value what is happening in HK.

Stop it, China.

Your pal always,
Blue Shift

That ought to do it.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: muzzleflash


I read a rumour today that there was trouble at St Marys college in London between Hong Kong Chinese students and mainland ones, with some Taiwanese getting involved.

Can't see anything online about it though, (Was a comment in the guardian on one of the Brexit threads).

Wow hmmm.
I'd love to see how that conversation went.
Altercation, whatever you wanna call it.

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Stop it, China.

Your pal always,
Blue Shift

That ought to do it.

Thank you - that'll tip the scales!!

Hong Kong ROC That's the way it is.

USA Not Socialist Republic of USA

originally posted by: ChefFox
I believe everyone should take a read at this. This a good read
The U.S. Stunt In Hong Kong Will Make Other Issues More Difficult

Lee and other U.S. stooges organized large demonstrations against an extradition bill which would allow the government to send people who committed crimes in mainland China, Taiwan and Macau to those provinces where the crime was committed to receive their punishment.

Hong Kong already has similar agreements with foreign countries.

Their aims are clearly unachievable and racist nonsense:

As that outcome was totally predictable one wonders why the Trump administration bothered to launch such nonsense. It will only make it more difficult to solve other problems, like North Korea or global trade, over which China has influence.

The American gov and the admin under Trump is playing a very dangerous move. Even though this was written in July this still holds value what is happening in HK.

You are so full of #, no one's going to believe your garbage.

Blaming the US for instigating HK's protests.
LOL

People just hate being ruled over by tyrants, that's what is the cause of it.
No one wants to be disappeared or put into prison for disagreeing with govt policy.
THAT'S WHY the people are protesting.

Trying to act like this is some sort of foreign conspiracy is absurd.

Yes we WILL support HK in any way we can against China's insane regime but it doesn't mean we instigated and contrived this resistance. You guys will NEVER win this.

a reply to: ChefFox

Sure...... Nothing organic in Hong Kong? Racist?

So the protests have no merit?

Hong Kong should just get assimilated by the Mainland Borg. Jeez.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Blaming the US for instigating HK's protests.

People just hate being ruled over by tyrants, that's what is the cause of it.

Where have i heard this same garbage? before oh yeah gaddafi was once a Tyrant to before Libya turned into a failed state. And Assad was and is Tyrant for not surrendering to some peaceful protesters who are also Jihadist fighters.

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: JAGStorm


YOUR A COMMUSINT IF YOU DONT SUPPORT REGIME CHANGE AND PREOSTS IN Hk! Where have I heard this nonsense before?

What is a Commusint and what are Preosts?

a reply to: muzzleflash

Yes we WILL support HK in any way we can against China's insane regime but it doesn't mean we instigated and contrived this resistance. You guys will NEVER win this.

And you quickly paint me as Chinese even though I am not and claim that China will never win? lol that is a good you guys aren't winning in Syria and Afghanistan for that matter

Double post.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Yes we WILL support HK in any way we can against China's insane regime but it doesn't mean we instigated and contrived this resistance. You guys will NEVER win this.

And you quickly paint me as Chinese even though I am not and claim that China will never win? lol that is a good you guys aren't winning in Syria and Afghanistan for that matter.


Libya was a dumb mess.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Yeah, my money would be on the HK kids since there are way more HK Chinese here than any others.

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: muzzleflash

Blaming the US for instigating HK's protests.

People just hate being ruled over by tyrants, that's what is the cause of it.

. And Assad was and is Tyrant for not surrendering to some peaceful protesters who are also Jihadist fighters.

No Assad is not a tyrant for "not surrendering to protestors", he's a tyrant because he doesn't respect civil liberties or human rights and abuses his powers. He would rather see Syria destroyed than relinquish his power. That's why he's a tyrant.

a reply to: ChefFox

......are you saying the residents of HK are ruled by dictators and tyrants?

Let them decide their own laws ECT.

a reply to: pavil

Sure...... Nothing organic in Hong Kong? Racist?

By your logic then the protests in Libya were also organic and never NGO founded right? I find it rather ironic how these protests in HK are exposing actual NeoCons who love regime changes that are aligned to their regional interests of dominance.

originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: sine.nomine

originally posted by: Nyiah
Screw 'em. Their house, their mess.

I've said it time and again, and I'll say it once more -- I'm real damn tired of us being the World Police every time someone stateside whines and every time someone abroad doesn't want to do their own dirty work. If Hong Kong wants to maintain their status quo and not go Full China, then the good folks of HONG KONG need to see to that.

Not the UN.
Not the damn US.

HONG KONG.

They live there, it's their responsibility to look after their home and govern it as they see fit however they can achieve that end, and nobody else.

It's one thing to go in and help people out under the boot of major atrocities that they have zero hope of fighting off. Reabsorbing back into China ain't one of them. If the people of Hong Kong don't like it, they need to buck up and get their hands a little dirtier than just protesting in the streets. Nobody else is going to do that job for them.

I think it's more of an issue of China breaking international agreements to reabsorb Hong Kong prematurely. But like I mentioned before, is anyone here willing to die for Hong Kong? (I never did get a straight answer)

I can assure you that plenty of people in HK have already died for it in the last few months. I realize there is no offical death tolls but there are reports of various individuals dying, and countless injuries.

We cannot trust China on this because they still to this day have not given clear answers on the 1989 Tiananmen Square incident death tolls, all we have is estimates.

You gotta understand how a govt like this "black-bags" people and disappears them in the night right outta their homes, with no media reports, no official information, nothing. People just disappear to who knows where, probably their unmarked graves.

And about people around the world willing to die, we are going to have to face the cold hard reality that China's communist party regime is the enemy of freedom everywhere. It's like the USSR 2.0, especially considering the way they are spreading their tentacles around the globe. Their goal is to expand their "Lebensraum" because their population is so large and their resources so limited. They need living space and are not only plotting, but moving in and taking over various areas of Africa, South America, Central Asia, etc.

The Chinese regime is based on racist ideology, it's Han first all other ethnicity are screwed.
Racism in China

Look at how they treat the Japanese, the Tibetans, the Muslims, the Uyghurs, the Manchu, the Indians, the Mongols, the Koreans, Filipinos, the Taghliks - hell they even have racial slurs for all Caucasians and they especially hate Africans the most. Research this topic, the regime there not only allows racism but it promotes it.

Communism/Socialism is the worst thing that ever happened in human history, by the numbers. Their death tolls are way over 100,000,000 people, and that's the conservative estimates that do not include collateral or proxy death counts. I would personally put the number more around 250 million because I'd include WW2, Vietnam, Korea, etc (the Nazis were socialist fascists btw).

And to answer your question if I'm ready to die for HK :

Okay, all I asked for was an explanation. I said I was on the fence. You're right though to an extent. At what point does helping HK hurt the rest of the capitalist world? Yeah, we could build back up, but we do have other enemies...

And I love Patton, and I loved the quote.

a reply to: pavil

Let them decide their own laws ECT.

I will start believing these regime change protests as long as America doesn't start popping up bases on them but of course the end result would be with America building a base there just like they did it with Kosovo. And as for letting them deicde their own laws? lolz.

originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: muzzleflash

Yes we WILL support HK in any way we can against China's insane regime but it doesn't mean we instigated and contrived this resistance. You guys will NEVER win this.

And you quickly paint me as Chinese even though I am not and claim that China will never win? lol that is a good you guys aren't winning in Syria and Afghanistan for that matter.


Libya was a dumb mess.

I didn't say you were Chinese. I insinuated that you were anti-liberty though because you are against freedom.

a reply to: muzzleflash

You might as well support the Jihadists in Syria while your at it. Its clear why these protests are happening and its happening because lets be hoenst America is losing its grounds in Syria.

I am not so stupid into following into these regime change tactics backed by NGOs.