Christchurch shooting: police search for gunman after mass shooting at mosque – live updates

originally posted by: Jobeycool

originally posted by: tiredoflooking
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Well I hope they arrested that guy for the threat instead of allowing someone to post what they would do hours ahead and then have facebook mysteriously livestream the whole thing for 17 minutes.

Has anyone ever seen the difficulties of keeping a stream up that long? From a head cam?

All this human surveillance by NSA etc. and this stuff was prewarned and left up for a really long time actually.Yeah...what’s up with that....The NSA knows where these crazies live....Not that they can really stop it.

Just the social media stuff in this case is suspicious, even if you leave out the rest.

I would not doubt the NSA knew about this guy but they cannot do anything about it..

I get the sinking feeling that this event marks the true first shots fired in the MindWar (called the culture war by some).

Perpetrated by someone who wants to watch the world burn, and who derives great pleasure from the growing divide between "left" and "right."

I doubt this type of person could ever accurately be categorized as "left" or "right." But, they sure as hell knew exactly what to say to achieve their goal.

As horrific as I think it is, I suspect the innocent people here were just a means to an end. Chosen specifically to precipitate the response that will inevitably follow, and framed intentionally to deepen the conflict between identitarians.

Sad and tragic on so many levels.. Especially because I suspect it will work, and this road isn't leading anywhere good for anyone. Including those that would cackle and revel in a very despicable and lethal "troll," the concept of the world burning, and the ensuing drama as fingers start to point so viciously they break.

a reply to: Jobeycool

Yes well this is the whole point of mass surveillance, they say, this was outside the US. There is the FVEY cooperation.

What is the point of all of it if they didn't stop this guy with all the lead in time?

I guess because the use all their power and tech for other things...

a reply to: matafuchs

Nope he had a clear exit. This was no operator. He could have gotten out clean but went back in and then was shooting through his own windows? He did shows some tactical awareness but not an operator. At least not an experienced operator. Come on. He was wacked and clearly not thinking clearly.

Jaden

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Now NZ will do a massive gun revamp and the left in the US will say the US needs it too.

This guy is getting his wish.

I have heard it's very difficult and takes tonnes of scrutiny to have been licences for these weapons there, if true how will reform help that?

Take all guns away?

Same old debate and in UK an mp was seriously discussing gps monitors on knife blades.

This guy specifically outlined that be could have used bombs or a vehicle to hurt people and he chose guns to help spur revolutions.

Way to give him what he wanted.

People hurt people, not objects.

a reply to: Masterjaden

I agree, I've watched the video quite a few times and he made many rookie mistakes. For starters he should have blocked the main entrance instead of parking on the side, he didn't have his magazines taped tight enough they came apart and gave him trouble, I'm assuming he used cheap ammo as 2 of his guns jammed multiple times, he went through to many rounds to quick when they were already down, he lost awareness when that guy rushed him making a run for it, he then fell and when he went to reload, realized when he fell he dropped all of his magazines (big mistake) should have been secure. And he could have very easily shot himself when he fell. He should have had extended mag, his were standard 30 rounders. He had trouble unhooking his AR from the strap. He ejected a live shell in the car, tried to put it back, failed and tossed it. Speeding away when he was free and clear. Ect, ect, ect

This guy was not a professional. I could feel his adrenaline while watching. Also the simple fact that he Livestreamed it says alot. I did really like that shotgun he started out with though, semi auto, no pump, 8 or 9 shells. Good choice to start with.

a reply to: tiredoflooking

Why not take away forks to fight obesity?

Why not take away pencils to combat misspelled words?

a reply to: DBCowboy

a reply to: tiredoflooking

lol

a reply to: tiredoflooking Like I said,The governments which where“we the people “are becoming so sick with propaganda and nonsense...Give the governments the guns and then they will tell who to kill with gun...How big of hypocrites are inside this country now...They turn the thing into us evil people verse the good government people who cannot possibly be wrong...Seeing history repeat itself and I’m not sure how much longer this goes until all out war happens..

a reply to: lightedhype

I will entertain the idea of MKULTRA possibly having something to do with some of these shooters and events. I will give you that.

thanks

However - you can go on the freaking 8chan thread right now and witness literally hundreds of comments from users supporting this man's actions.

Maybe, But they're Not 'moi' and eejits will be eejits and angry eejits projecting themselves onto the world aren't actually 'new' y'know?

Plus there's the "chan factor" where "signal to noise ratio" can be pretty bad,Sorry bro but the "anons" are not a 'typical demographic' of any kind, even of ALL chatrooms/BB's it's "unlike any other" (I know of)

Plus, it's the (sense of) "anonymity" which lets such people say things they would NEVER say in Real Life ... I'd guess >80% being under 25yo and 'haphazardly informed' about ... who knows?

That's the beauty of staying "anon" Sure sometimes it's "the Blind leading the Blind" but hey, isn't much of Real Life as meaningless and useless most of the time and so some people almost spend 20+hrs per day posting sh$t online

People might call out your lies, but as they'll never know who you are and so their 'judgements mean nothing BUT their 'approval' is always sought!

Lonely people attention seeking

Those hundreds if not thousands of users #posting? They are one bad day or one newly found testicle away from carrying out this same act.

How do you figure that? You think a bunch of kids with High Functioning ausbergers who are most likely still living at home on their parent/s dime - (how else do they get the time to live online?) while talking sh$t to whoever might listen and even better, respond!

Not to mention the 'water armies' currently working hard to influence Public Opinion ... as usual

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
This level of indignation from the left is totally absent whenever the shooter is a Muslim. (Which it usually is).

This shooting is disgusting and cowardly, but there seems to be a tendency to openly attack right-wing ideology over this.

Next week, or earlier, when there’s another Muslim attack, I look forward to leftist condemnation of the Islamic ideology.

I won’t hold my breath

And yet you see infinitely more outrage from the right on ATS the one time that antifa throws a rock through a window.

I think you might be doing a little too much reading of your extremist right-wing media instead of looking into what the left actually criticizes or believes (or for general facts, that too).

But hey, carry on Carrol O'Conner.

Apparently this terrorist claimed in his manifesto he wanted to further tensions between groups in places like the US.

From some on the post on this thread and else where, I can see that is working.

a reply to: 772STi I never found the video...prob all taken down now.

originally posted by: Grambler
Apparently this terrorist claimed in his manifesto he wanted to further tensions between groups in places like the US.

From some on the post on this thread and else where, I can see that is working.

As they captured the guy I guess we will get to hear from him, and the others that helped him.

Won't change the issues peple bicker about, or help those that lost heal.

I live in Europe. We certainly have a problem here with migrants. Wether people want to accept it or not it's the truth.

Here in Amsterdam today we had the mayor go out and give a speech at a prominent mosque here in Amsterdam to offer assurances that the city is looking out and extra measures are in place to ensure their safety. I guess against any would be copy cats. That's nonsense.

This is an event that happened literally on the other side of the planet and has nothing to do withthe day to day here in Amsterdam and certainly isn't a threat to any muslims here.It's virtue signalling.

The thing that really bothered me the most about this is that during her speach she said "everyone is 'together one' in the city"

And added "here is no separate community. There is only one community in Amsterdam. And that is the community of Amsterdammers. And we take care of each other. "

This is complete nonsesne. There are multiple communities. The muslim communities here do not integrate or mix with the native Dutch or Europeans at all. They stick together and that's it. They do not want to be involved with us and the reason for that is that in their eyes, as is taught in their disgusting book, we are inferior, and as such fair game.

The muslim community makes up the vast majority of hard drug dealers here, who they have no problem with as it's permissable in their eyes to partake in such activities and supply drugs to the white infidels openly and stay in the good graces of their religion and peers.

They commit the vast majority of violent crime, robberies, theft and general anti social behaviour. But within their own communities it's acceptable. Because the victims of their crimes are sub human. Infidels. So it's all OK.

I have a beutifull 13 year old daughter. The reality is, here in Amsterdam it's been widely known and warned against for a long time that this group of people have no problems exploiting people like my child, much like in Rotherham.

It's a problem.

We are simply not compatible and that will never change. Do I want to see mosques shot up because of that? Absolutely not. But we have to find some sort of solution, sooner rather than later because it cannot continue like it is forever.

It's just the way it is.

All these people that kill like this are mass murderers,they keep using racist terms constantly it is so bad in the MSM non stop...word games..