-@TH3WH17ERABB17- -Q- Questions. White House Insider's postings -PART- -sIxteen-

a reply to: Bill1960

Yes and no. What you're thinking of are negative stability aircraft. They're inherently unstable, which makes them more maneuverable. MCAS is a stall prevention system. If the system detects the aircraft approaching a stall, it automatically inputs nose down on the elevators, but is only supposed to be engaged when the autopilot is disengaged, and flaps are retracted.

Two systemic problems, and one training problem have come to light. The first is that when the MCAS code was written, it was set to use the left side AoA sensor as the primary input. With Lion Air, the left side sensor had shown problems over four flights prior to the accident. If the system had compared left and right sensors it would have seen the discrepancy and disregard the bad input.

The second systemic problem occurs just after the autopilot is engaged. On multiple flights, just after engaging, the aircraft suddenly pitches down. Everything is set right, it just goes nose down.

The training issue is that Boeing left things out of the manual and training syllabus, such as the fact that MCAS existed.

a reply to: [post=24249425]liveandlearn[/post

Here's one source (other than my OTG knowledge)

www.thisisinsider.com...

Not sure why you have doubted these claims, I have pictures. Those however are most likely against T&C

a reply to: Sabrechucker

Maybe she got a heads up though her swamp sources that their data gathering partners were in for some pain so she attempted to separate her self.

Too late. They have it all.

Just more projection by the party of projection.

originally posted by: Phelan15
a reply to: Bill1960

Yes and no. What you're thinking of are negative stability aircraft. They're inherently unstable, which makes them more maneuverable. MCAS is a stall prevention system. If the system detects the aircraft approaching a stall, it automatically inputs nose down on the elevators, but is only supposed to be engaged when the autopilot is disengaged, and flaps are retracted.

Two systemic problems, and one training problem have come to light. The first is that when the MCAS code was written, it was set to use the left side AoA sensor as the primary input. With Lion Air, the left side sensor had shown problems over four flights prior to the accident. If the system had compared left and right sensors it would have seen the discrepancy and disregard the bad input.

The second systemic problem occurs just after the autopilot is engaged. On multiple flights, just after engaging, the aircraft suddenly pitches down. Everything is set right, it just goes nose down.

The training issue is that Boeing left things out of the manual and training syllabus, such as the fact that MCAS existed.

Yup. Or since this has already been in use for at least three decades...maybe just Stuxnet...

a reply to: SKEPTEK

What a shame, some guy from UTAH and a former Tight End from IOWA is going to take it down.

a reply to: Enderdog

Errol Flynn was rumored to be bisexual. The same was said of Tyrone Power. That is what constituted titillating reading at that time.

Neither have been proven to have been bisexual.

originally posted by: Sabrechucker
a reply to: SKEPTEK

What a shame, some guy from UTAH and a former Tight End from IOWA is going to take it down.

Bread basket irony, abounds!

originally posted by: Enderdog

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow

originally posted by: Bill1960
Well, well, well:

Vietnam : Vietjet signs deal for 100 airplanes, increasing order with Boeing to 200 airplanes on the occasion of United States - North Korea Summit

Not saying there's something nefarious here, but........, two in 5 months similar circumstances. Similar incidents here in the states and recovery was possible. My question is just how damned far off is the center of balance on this thing? I get the flight augmentation thing. It's nothing new, the F-117 and the B-2 can't fly without it, neither can the F-22 and F-35. I think there is something deeper here across the board. I have to believe that FAA, NTSB and Boeing would have grounded these things quick if there was a major issue. I've never seen governments come right out and ground airplanes globally. This is worth a deep dive.

Fixed link.
I agree this needs deep dive. Aviation industry is held to extreme high measures with some of the best engineers in the world like NASA. WTF happened?

This one, is kinda hard to parse for me. Thus far, the only thing that makes sense, is that cleaning out the FAA, might be the point? Is Boeing a big player in the MIC/SSP/4TH REICH?

This is approximately a 5 billion dollar deal, regarding future orders...maybe just a shot across the bow, to the Space Nazis?

I assumed the DJT tweet referencing the 727 and "stone cold..." was that the compromised plane software mentioned by Q last year is still in some planes - used by the black hats to crash the planes at will. Hence his comment about pilots needing control in his previous tweet.

I seem to remember a neon post exploring this in detail.

a reply to: RelSciHistItSufi

Interesting Update of graphs from Downdetector.com:

The data below shows a very similar drop in downtime then peak around 10pm. They look so similar that I believe they show a direct correlation and integration between the following applications and telecoms providers:

Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp, Twitter, FB Instant Messenger, Spectrum, Verizon, CenturyLink, AT&T, Hulu, Snapchat, Comcast, Netflix, Sprint, T-Mobile, Southwest.com, Amazon, Level3, WoW, CallOfDuty, DirectTV, Spotify, Chase, StraightTalk, Mediacom, Anthem, Outlook.com, Espn, Optimum, Pinterest, AmazonAlexa, Wells Fargo, Skype, TDS, Kik, iMessage.

a reply to: Phelan15

Not disagreeing with anything you've said. If the code is that sloppy, I'm shocked it got an airworthiness certificate. I get the training/manual thing as well been through it with upgrades on things. Surprised, that after Lyon there wasn't an immediate interim change to show them where the hell circuit breaker was for the MCAS so they could go to manual reversion and climb out.

a reply to: RelSciHistItSufi

Hmm, never heard of that type of file extension. I'm thinking the 'Garbage file' is like the Recycle Bin in Windows or on Linux or Unix an actual bitbucket or garbage file, kinda like .tmp files. What if remnants of LifeLog [DARPA] code were stored here and never deleted -- purged.

a reply to: Enderdog

This is brand new software. The Max is the first 737 to use any fly by wire, and it's a hybrid system.

Federal prosecutors are conducting a criminal investigation into data deals Facebook struck with some of the world’s largest technology companies, intensifying scrutiny of the social media giant’s business practices as it seeks to rebound from a year of scandal and setbacks.

Q

Normally the destruction of evidence is frowned upon

I do not use any of this -never have as I knew what it was straight away so I cannot judge. But it will be interesting to see if the more attuned folks find the "vibe" of the lifelog changed after the purge.

a reply to: Bill1960

That was part of the training fix.

originally posted by: crankyoldman

originally posted by: Enderdog

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow

originally posted by: Bill1960
Well, well, well:

Vietnam : Vietjet signs deal for 100 airplanes, increasing order with Boeing to 200 airplanes on the occasion of United States - North Korea Summit

Not saying there's something nefarious here, but........, two in 5 months similar circumstances. Similar incidents here in the states and recovery was possible. My question is just how damned far off is the center of balance on this thing? I get the flight augmentation thing. It's nothing new, the F-117 and the B-2 can't fly without it, neither can the F-22 and F-35. I think there is something deeper here across the board. I have to believe that FAA, NTSB and Boeing would have grounded these things quick if there was a major issue. I've never seen governments come right out and ground airplanes globally. This is worth a deep dive.

Fixed link.
I agree this needs deep dive. Aviation industry is held to extreme high measures with some of the best engineers in the world like NASA. WTF happened?

This one, is kinda hard to parse for me. Thus far, the only thing that makes sense, is that cleaning out the FAA, might be the point? Is Boeing a big player in the MIC/SSP/4TH REICH?

This is approximately a 5 billion dollar deal, regarding future orders...maybe just a shot across the bow, to the Space Nazis?

I assumed the DJT tweet referencing the 727 and "stone cold..." was that the compromised plane software mentioned by Q last year is still in some planes - used by the black hats to crash the planes at will. Hence his comment about pilots needing control in his previous tweet.

I seem to remember a neon post exploring this in detail.

Ah! Had not considered that angle!

a reply to: crankyoldman

The problem with the idea of compromised code is that, at least with a mechanical control system, you don't need computers to fly. So if the plane starts doing something weird, pull the breakers and you're set. Most fly by wire systems can be reverted to direct input, which minimizes the computer as well.

a reply to: crankyoldman

This takes me back to the Q400 in Seattle... Who the hell flew that plane



That fella talking was NOT in the plane!




I'd love Z58's take on that.

What are the odds that all of this spider web goes down for half a day and then a breaking story comes out about them being under investigation? I wonder if these companies are amongst the 150? Seems highly unlikely the two incidences aren’t related

a reply to: RelSciHistItSufi

originally posted by: Phelan15
a reply to: Enderdog

This is brand new software. The Max is the first 737 to use any fly by wire, and it's a hybrid system.

Totally possible. However it seems that if we can do this with mission essential war planes, adapting to commercial jets ought to be a gimme. That we just had a "failed" summit, where der Trumpmeister walked away with a yuge Boeing contract, then bolted immediately...well...something feels a little connected to me. Not to mention 737 death row inmates being spared...