Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Damn that hillarious CB.

originally posted by: celltypespecific

.....suddenly John releases emails detailing attempts to block him and Lue....

I stated that this was a carefully planned interview before John released the above email regarding the DoD attempts to block him.

Nah! you stated that you'd predicted and foretold that the JG v LE interview was carefully planned

Which you didn't did you?

Just like that poster who claimed there were real pictures of the 1952 DC UFOs but vanished until it seems forgotten about.

Still waiting for this one too...

originally posted by: celltypespecific
I would not be surprised if BIG LUE leaves TTSA.....


You heard it here first

One day it will come true. Then Chris Mellon will have to re-open his website and "accidentally" leave the resignation letter there for one of the TTSA Twit recruits to find.

Can't we all just get along and follow in the steps of Nolan and Blackvault?








I think it's time for the ATS HATERS to also reset their relationship with Big Lue

twitter.com...

Info on what might be on the Top Secret Navy UFO Slides

First, the ONI's claim that publication would undermine U.S. "intelligence activities ... as well as the sources and methods that are being used to gather information in support of the national security of the United States."


Here, the ONI is almost certainly referring to active UFO research and analysis programs undertaken by the Navy and other government agencies. Former U.S. government officials involved in those programs have asserted that the UFO research effort is active and growing. I have spoken to other well-informed individuals who assert the same. And, considering that these programs are attempting to ascertain how some UFOs use anti-gravity-enabled means of propulsion to accelerate instantaneously to hypersonic speeds, with little, and sometimes zero, optical/sensor visibility, it's understandable that the ONI would want to keep their research hidden.

www.washingtonexaminer.com...

originally posted by: celltypespecific
Info on what might be on the Top Secret Navy UFO Slides

www.washingtonexaminer.com...

We can confidently guess what's on at least some of the Navy's top-secret UFO briefing slides.

My confidence in the author's "confident guesses" is approximately zero.

I am curious to know what they really say though.

a reply to: celltypespecific

I think it's time for the ATS HATERS to also reset their relationship with Big Lue

That, or it's a sign of respect for the whole topic when people try to substantiate his claims. He knew what he was up to, and TTSA isn't a public charity that deserved a leap of faith. Deal with it, this isn't personal. It's only human to bury all that disappointment in loads of irony, and your appeals for sympathy actually make it worse.

originally posted by: celltypespecific
Can't we all just get along...?

I think it's time for the ATS HATERS to also reset their relationship with Big Lue

What are you - twelve? We're not "HATERS".

At least I'm not... I'm just... disappointed.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Haters?

All TTSA has to do is fly an interdimensional ship through a portal onto the White House lawn with the plans for free energy and the cure for all diseases kicking off a millennium of peace and prosperity and I'll be willing to say I was wrong.

originally posted by: celltypespecific
Can't we all just get along and follow in the steps of Nolan and Blackvault?


I think it's time for the ATS HATERS to also reset their relationship with Big Lue

Those who blindly follow TTSA don't like questions being asked of these guys because they are going to tell the truth about aliens. So they pretend anyone that does hates them. This is deflection.

You won't answer a question yourself because you know you lied. You had no reason to lie. But you did. So let's forget about that excuse. You lied with no reason at all. So why wouldn't any of TTSA tell lies?

Zondo and TTSA told lies that he was Director of AATIP. That has now been stealthily changed to "senior person". Then in the interview with Greeny, Zondo pointed out how the Pentagon lied about Iran and Afghanistan. When he was still at the Pentagon....

He continues...

....AATIP was NOT, repeat NOT a covert program and therefore there is no justification for the Pentagon to lie to the American people… if this is indeed what they are doing

So who is lying?

Zondo was supposed to be something "senior" in that program but sounds as if he doesn't know whether the Pentagon are lying or not. So we must conclude that he's lying.

Time for a lie down.

a reply to: mirageman

They should call all this the "lying game".

a reply to: mirageman

Zondo was supposed to be something "senior" in that program but sounds as if he doesn't know whether the Pentagon are lying or not. So we must conclude that he's lying.

Nope, we must not. Could be both parties lying for different reasons, and I can still entertain the idea he's telling the truth. Lets not take Pentagon press releases as gospel, it's always the better choice not to rely on official statements for... well, anything? They have the tendency to change with the wind, obviously. All we can do is sponsor more lies with tax money, demand answers we don't get and hope for a change of National Security regulations that will likely never occur.

Where is the 3rd party verification we could use to circumvent all the propaganda? Insiders leaking further details maybe? This is a real issue, and I have no idea how to solve it.

a reply to: celltypespecific

I watched a YT interview (had to be this thread where it was embedded but maybe not) with a naval aviator that relayed 2nd-hand info about the Nimitz encounter...the serviceman told of his hearing Fravor tell others over a few beers about the encounter. According to the interviewee, the story was told many a time over many a beer and was even co-opted by himself when shooting the sh$t amongst other servicemen.

The interviewee had what was purported as a study of the encounter (even had a hardcopy on hand during interview), of course the alleged report was classified and the interviewee could share only so much from those pages...he said the report of the study was commissioned by ONI; the investigators were legit according to the interviewee, but he later asserted it really wasn’t ONI but instead Big Lue and the likes of TTSA who followed up some 10 years after the encounter. This 10-year follow up was ostensibly conducted by ONI. But Big Lue was involved...allegedly.

The interviewee also stated unequivocally that there was NOT a longer video of the encounter (allegedly there is a 7 - 10 min vid). I don’t know if this has been commented on or if it’s totally irrelevant, but nonetheless, it just goes to show this is the gang who couldn’t shoot straight (H/T: The Gut).

The interviewee was hawking a book of course.

Something about registering your foundation as “Services Allied to Motion Pictures” (or whatever the foundation is chartered as) makes it all the more clear.

My bad if any of this has been discussed in relation to this interviewee

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Point taken about the Pentagon lying. They can't be trusted either.

But Zondo was Director of AATIP and never corrected it. Although became "Program Element Manager" or "Senior" person. So it was a lie. That was proclaimed on their own website.

So why the change of title?



Oh hang on (to date - this may be changed eventually). They still do claim he was FMR Director of AATIP

a reply to: mirageman

Exactly.

Not to mention all the NDA's he can't seem to get rid off, which probably would've been the better choice to begin with. I can't expect from him to simply ignore potential charges for spilling the beans in violation of his contracts... but for crying out loud, they fcking promised! Didn't they?
Contradicting statements from the pentagram shaped building or not, at some point TTSA will have to life up to the expectations that grew on them. And the problem with that would be the fact, that they deluded themselves into believing they already delivered on what was promised.

"Abandon hope all ye who enter here"

It's a bit like reading Dante again, only without the Virgil guiding us through 9 circles of hell. What a ride.

a reply to: Cravens

Interesting info. Thanks.

MAJOR BREAKING NEWS FROM BLACKVAULT
He mentions the ATS website...

AS I PREDICTED........



ITS BIG LUE!!!!!!

a reply to: celltypespecific

....this is an us vs. them scenario, and they cheer when we lose...

More Pinkout! Oh my goodness... it's a FOIA posse and he owes us fees!

Sincerely
your Nayvy

Now that BIG lue and BLACKVAULT are working together...expect more successfull FOIA reponses!!!