Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

originally posted by: celltypespecific

Been around since at least 2013.....



Results so far?

a reply to: Saturnschild

a really good post...

Hiding it in plain sight?




or playing into their hand?

originally posted by: celltypespecific

Yes....they are called transhumans.

Transhumanism is a pretty popular movement on the west coast.

You're so coy, Cellty! Why edit "We" and substitute it with "They"? (That ain't no typo.)

Be PROUD of your transhumanism!

Well this certainly will be interesting...



How many times will the acronym "NDA" be said - place your bets people!

a reply to: ConfusedBrit



This one's for Cellty.....

Oops got confused for a moment....transhuman not someone with their vest tight.

a reply to: pigsy2400

As the senior ranking person in the AATIP program, I was ultimately responsible for ensuring the efficient and effective operations of the overall effort.

So he was.....n't the Director?

This was not revelatory nor interesting in the least. Other than some emotions, and we know Luis "Mankinds" Elzondo is all about emotions.

Goatee mockery is duly noted.
Cue ominous music.....

How many times will the acronym "NDA" be said - place your bets people!

Exactly....this interview is a red flag for me.....

There was no need to have this interview as the status quo was fine.

Is this a sign of desperation from TTSA ?


What will be the central message Lue wants to communicate to the masses ?

originally posted by: pigsy2400
Well this certainly will be interesting...

How many times will the acronym "NDA" be said - place your bets people!

Below is the interview:

www.theblackvault.com... on/

a reply to: Jukiodone

Once upon a midnight dreary, whilst MirageMan pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten UFOlore—
While he nodded, listening to C2c George Knapping, suddenly there came a tapping....

As some one with a Blond Goatee gently rapping, rapping at his chamber door.
“’Tis some program elements manager,” he muttered, “tapping at my chamber door—He wants some more Blondo for Zondo, Only this and nothing more.”

Back into the chamber turning, all the Gravity Defying shampoo on his head was a burning,Soon again I heard a tapping somewhat louder than before.
“Surely,” said MirageMan, “surely that is something at my window lattice;
Let me see, then, what UAP Threat there is, and this mystery explore—
Let his heart be still a moment and this mystery explore;—
’Tis the Tom Delonges wind and nothing more!”

But the Big Beautiful Luey, sitting lonely on the placid bust, spoke only
That one word, as if his NDA removed in that one word he did outpour.
Nothing farther than that he uttered—not even a TicTac then he fluttered—
Till Mirage scarcely more than muttered “Other UAPs have flown before—
On the morrow he will leave me, as my Hopes have flown before.”
Then the bird said “DIRRRRRDsss and nothing more.”

There was a rapping, a tapping at Mirages Front Door...!!!

Fin

Documentation is king:

LE: “I think the Pentagon realizes it is fighting a losing battle regarding AATIP. I think it now realizes that the sponsor himself has said what the program was about along with a senior officer and some of the contractors involved. I also think they are now aware of the mass amount of documentation that exists (but not in the public realm) that substantiates the reality of what AATIP was/is, and who was/in involved. I don’t think the Pentagon wants a public hearing where this information comes to light so therefore it may be simply easier to acknowledge the truth.”

www.theblackvault.com... on/

WE HAVE ACHIEVED DISCLOSURE!!!!!!

LE: “I think we first need to define what ‘disclosure’ means, because I think it means different things to different people. If you mean ‘disclosure’ as defines by the fact that these things are real, then I think we are already there.


However, some people want the Government to admit things like “Elvis is on the mother-ship” and we are being invaded by reptilians from the Alpha Proxima. In this case, I don’t think these people will be satisfied ever because this is not going to happen in, my honest opinion. I think the best we can hope for is that the reality of UAPs is indeed real and that we need to do A LOT more homework to really figure out what these things are, how they work, who is behind the wheel, and what are their intentions.”



LE: “I believe we are at the point where putting the toothpaste back in the tube is not likely. In part because a critical mass of individuals in our Government have been briefed officially as to the reality and nature of the phenomena. These briefings were conducted by active Government representatives serving in an official capacity. As a result, there are likely records of these meetings occurring. In addition, I believe enough people in our Government have been made aware over the last 2 years that a program existed and continues to exist and at some point, these individuals will be either leaving or retiring from Government service and will also come forward.”

www.theblackvault.com... on/

A message to Miregeman from BIG LUE:

LE: “I am not looking for ‘favorable coverage’. I am simply looking for fair and accurate coverage. If someone wants to make fun of my goatee, then that’s fair game because it is a fact I have one. Although this may be a silly point to make, it’s still an accurate fact. However, when someone accuses me of not being truthful and only uses a single source, I have issue with that. Especially because of the preponderance of evidence that others (including the program sponsor, contractors, and even documents) say contrary. The problem with some in the media is that they only report small bits and pieces to their audience, and this results in misleading and inaccurate narratives.”

John Greenwald of the blackvault is now a supporter of BIG LUE. I hope you all will learn a lessen from this wonderful interview. Good Day

But if the creation of this article has taught this author one thing more than all else, it is the fact that the word “truth” brings Elizondo, and myself, together onto common ground. So today, we walk side by side on it to bring at least a little clarity to a deep, dark, murky “mess” that is AATIP.

www.theblackvault.com... on/

a reply to: celltypespecific

I love that word "Truth".....

a reply to: pigsy2400

Oh, by the way, that was a work of art! Almost brought a tear to my eye.

Meanwhile...

originally posted by: celltypespecific

LE: “... The problem with some in the media is that they only report small bits and pieces to their audience, and this results in misleading and inaccurate narratives.”

Misleading and inaccurate narratives such as those presented by Lue himself? Of which there is a truck-load.

Eg, has he apologised to Jim Penniston and John Burroughs for misleading the public about the events and personnel involved in Rendlesham Forest on 27th/28th 1980?

As I said before, if he can't accurately represent the most famous case in UFO history, why in hell should I trust him with his own precious cases such as the Nimitz? And why did he make the loony Kevin Day the star of 'Unidentified''s second episode when Fravor had already called him out as a lying bullsh# artist?

This details matter as a point of TRUST, let alone Truth, my dear Cellty, as you suddenly swing favourably towards hugging Big Beautiful Lue again. Mr Greenwald may be chuffed to get an exclusive interview with him, but we learned precisely NOTHING from it. Same old, same old.

You're a scientist, you should be able to discern that for yourself.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Seeing as you brought up John Burroughs it prompted me to bring this up about Diana Walsh Pasulka and what he said on his Face Book recently.

He is reading what's posted here so it appears.

" What’s even more entertaining is watching the dumb ass’s on ATS go down the rabbit hole having no clue to what’s taking place! What’s worse is she is confused and feels betrayed not even understanding why!".

One wonders if Lue didn’t have all the dope on these basic UFO flaps all he had to do is google them and do a little reading.

He’s not a disordered person but it is possible he isn’t a walking encyclopedia of UFO lore or even a well-studied scholar but then why did he publicly make those mistakes.

Maybe deliberately?

Well, anyway, that’s why if he were truly the head of a UFO research org in the government one would employ experts who know the kinds of things Zondo flubbed the dub on publicly.

TTSA doesn’t even have UFO research experts.

Basic things

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Seeing as you brought up John Burroughs it prompted me to bring this up about Diana Walsh Pasulka and what he said on his Face Book recently.

He is reading what's posted here so it appears.

As I said before, I wish he would take part here rather than continually commenting via Facebook. That's soooooo last decade.

He still has an ATS account after all. Just takes a click of a button, John - come on, you know you want to... I guarantee a warm reception.