Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

RG: There is. So when we’re in the IR mode, there is a…I would call it a heat signature. But it’s not what you’re thinking. Typically they’d actually be colder than their surroundings. So when we look at it, it would show up as a cold object like some hot objects. And typically, when we’re looking through our FLIR at close distances, I mean, you can make out the skin of the aircraft. You can see the exhaust coming out of the back of the engine in pretty good detail. You know, you can look in and see the pilot waving at you if you’re close enough. When we looked at these objects, it essentially looked like someone was shining a flashlight right at our sensor. So it just looked like a bright spot, you know, which was very unusual.

Happy New Year!

Ok, this ^^^ really stands out for me since I "think" we accidentally got an answer to a question we weren't asking. Since the new FLIR uses a specific spectrum to image objects, has anyone thought about exactly what material would reflect that spectrum by imaging just a large "blinding" flash? Kinda like shining a flashlight at a mirror?

Just pondering here, but narrowing down the types of aircraft skins/materials already known that may or may not function this way under FLIR "may" give us some new clues to work from?

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I don't know if anyone has been listening to this series of Chris Bledsoe interviews on the Richard Dolan show but the last one with Bledsoe's stories about the Woman in White who appeared to him and relayed various prophecies and messages raised some serious red flags for me.

Bledsoe has been tied in with Tom DeLonge and TTSA and he has admitted to meeting with Tom several times as well as the mysterious former CIA guy and current TTSA honcho Jim Semivan. Bledsoe has been having odd experiences for decades - including a near death experience as a child - but it was really these Woman in White encounters that caught the interests of scientists, high ranking Pentagon officials and intelligence agents. This entity allegedly gave Bledsoe some prophecies and predictions about natural disasters including an earthquake in California that later occurred as she said. However it is the entity's prediction about Israel - particularly that Trump would announce the recognition of Jerusalem as its capitol - that seemed pretty odd to me.

This is such an obvious right wing evangelical Christian talking point - the capitol of Israel - that makes absolutely no sense as a point of interest outside evangelical beliefs. Bledsoe alleges he has been a guest at the White House retreat Camp David (he put pictures with Camp David insignias on his Facebook). If these pictures are legit, Bledsoe obviously captured the interest of high ranking members of either the Obama or Trump administrations or both (the timeline is unclear) with his enounters and predictions.

This all seems to me more evidence that several competing established religious groups including evangelical Christians, Catholics, Mormons and Scientologists are having a tug of war with UFOlogy to control the narrative of what is going on and co-opt experiencers and their experiences into their world view. We are getting farther and farther away from science and spaceships and much deeper into the realm of theology and spirituality and the occult but not in the way pioneers like Keel and Vallee intended. It seems to me that this is less an attempt to really understand what is going on and more an attempt to fit UFO experiences into a pre-constructed religious box for some kind of as yet unknown political purpose.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!



www.the-unidentified.net...

a reply to: celltypespecific

The cultural expression is real, and he could come across way less ignorant if he would at least admit that much. I think it's a well established fact that we wouldn't find out either way due to National Security concerns, why bother wasting good shopping time on Twitter clashes nobody could possibly win?

It might be a good idea to let you know where I'm coming from with this. Full disclosure: it's not exactly esoteric pseudo-science, and it has nothing to do with the Vimanas from Sanskrit epics.

"32:17 mins: "Potential unknown hominin""






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a reply to: coursecatalog

That's a very astute observation, and I believe we could find a lot of those religious aspects at the core of this ongoing Forever war on terror or drugs.

yet unknown political purpose.

Well. "The Family" has a lot of hints to offer, to name one example.

Doug Coe, the longtime leader of The Family who died in 2017, was focused on powerful men, and promoting a Jesus who came for the “wolves” and not “the sheep.” Coe argued that it was important to identify and come alongside the “wolf king”—now personified in the U.S. by Donald Trump. Of course, Trump has plenty of other Religious Right leaders telling him he was anointed by God and put in office by divine intervention.

‘The Family’ Explores Secretive Group Focused on Building Networks of Power

What a coincident, that this TTSA alien threat angle falls right into the lap of any and all upcoming wolf-kings...

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: celltypespecific

The cultural expression is real, and he could come across way less ignorant if he would at least admit that much. I think it's a well established fact that we wouldn't find out either way due to National Security concerns, why bother wasting good shopping time on Twitter clashes nobody could possibly win?

It might be a good idea to let you know where I'm coming from with this. Full disclosure: it's not exactly esoteric pseudo-science, and it has nothing to do with the Vimanas from Sanskrit epics.

"32:17 mins: "Potential unknown hominin""

a reply to: celltypespecific

Hey thanks for posting that video... the lecture topic does seem interesting.
Best,

a reply to: coursecatalog

An excellent post CC and yes Chris Bledscoe has met with TDL et al

This all seems to me more evidence that several competing established religious groups including evangelical Christians, Catholics, Mormons and Scientologists are having a tug of war with UFOlogy to control the narrative of what is going on and co-opt experiencers and their experiences into their world view. We are getting farther and farther away from science and spaceships and much deeper into the realm of theology and spirituality and the occult but not in the way pioneers like Keel and Vallee intended. It seems to me that this is less an attempt to really understand what is going on and more an attempt to fit UFO experiences into a pre-constructed religious box for some kind of as yet unknown political purpose.

Me and you are on the same track here CC...it does seem that to keep the UFO masses hanging on though, they do have to drag out some of the old favourites every now and again to keep the faithful happy and forever arguing; Lazar, SWR, Rendlesham etc...

The point you picked on where there are factions fighting to make the ufo narrative fit their objective is an interesting perspective; it's to fit their objectives NOT to disclose the UFO narrative itself ie Disclosure. Examination of these groups core beliefs gives a stronger indication of what's actually happening...

Dolan's top 10 UFO stories of 2019.

Most of them are TTSA based propaganda and support their hype machine.



Goes to show us TTSA has taken all the UFO oxygen from the scene.


May be one reason for their existence


Dolan believes the Pentagon statement in favor of ATTIP being a UFO hunt group but doesn’t believe the Greenwald FOIA statement that ATTIP was no ufo group.

Now, I understand the Dolans attitude, TTSA is the only game in town.

a reply to: Willtell

TTSA are also hanging on to one UFO case and three videos which sucks even more life out ufology.

Meanwhile Tommy Boy has featured in Rolling Stone....

It's a complete load of confusing double speak.

The guitarist, who stopped playing with Blink in 2014, has become one of the most prominent UFO researcher’s in the country. He co-founded To the Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences, a company dedicated to UFO research

Didn't Tom tell us TTSA wasn't a UFO research company?

What was your reaction to the Navy’s statement acknowledging “unidentified aerial phenomena”?

Well, my reaction is kind of two-par because, on one hand, I’m over the moon, but on the other hand, I knew all along that they just weren’t saying it. It’s a surprise to me that it actually happened. And we’re all really excited, because as American citizens, we need to hold our government accountable....

It really kind of cedes the trust in government, which I don’t really want to have happen. Because I work with a lot of government people and they’re the most trustful people I know. So I think this is one of those things that can really build bridges between the U.S. citizens and their government.

But your government has also said AATIP did not study UFOs and Luis Elizondo was not Director of AATIP and had no responsibilities. TTSA changed his title to "Program Element Manager" some time last year on their website. Which seems to be TTSA acknowledging that he wasn't the Director.

So which trustworthy government people are you referring to Tom?

Which video affected you the most?

For me, the Gimbal video, because I was at the time talking to Dr. Harold Puthoff....He talked to me a little about how these crafts could be flying and what the observations of them show, and the Gimbal video seemed to show a lot of that, which would be stuff like blurry edges around the bubble...we call it “gimballing” around, where it’s shifting its weight in a counter-clockwise motion, which shouldn’t happen when it’s moving the way it’s moving.

So there are all these little attributes that I was learning from the point of view of a physicist that works for the Department of Defense. When I saw that video, I thought, “Oh my God, all these themes are contained in this one video.” You could see the wings, you see the jet exhaust coming out the back … that video really did kind of blow me away..

Hang on. You've just said the Navy admitted that the videos feature Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. So how does the man who (still works for the DoD..hmmm) tell you how these crafts could be flying and what the observations show?

Where are the wings and jet exhaust on the Gimbal video?

Your own website states

No distinguishable flight surfaces....Lack of obvious propulsion system.

It also says you have chain of custody documentation. TTSA have never produced any such documentation and there is doubt about how these videos were obtained and released. Some of which comes from the government.

There was a lot of coverage of To the Stars’ financial issues last year. Does the Navy acknowledging your work give you a boost?

When we started, we knew that we probably had a year or two of really just working with the public doing things like the show on the History Channel, Unidentified, or doing things within government by coordinating briefings …

Then the second step that we needed to do was really get the corporate structure fixed, get the people in to start building the company now that the spark was ignited, we needed to start putting fuel on the fire. We needed to create an environment where the company can scale. And that’s what we did, then out of nowhere the Navy admits it, it could not be a better time. Literally the company is ready to do everything we set out to do, and this is just like, wow, the forces up there, the spiritual forces … the stars are aligning.[/font]

The Navy never officially acknowledged TTSA did they? The Government have never acknowledged TTSA or individuals of the company co-ordinating briefings either. They already had policies in place for reporting UFOs. What about the Air Force?

Finally what was this company actually set up to do if you are ready?

Then we have all those spooks trained in microbiology and neuroscience....which no journalists ask about and no one explains.

originally posted by: celltypespecific

Uh, no habla espanol. Care to translate?

CEFORA press release: On November 22, a meeting was held in the City of Buenos Aires (Argentina) with Mr. Luis Elizondo, representative of the To The Stars Academy Of Arts & Science (TTSA) organization who was in the country developing the production for the second season of “Unidentified: Inside America’s UFO Investigation”, for the History Channel cable signal. Mr. Elizondo, contacted the Directorate of CEFORA, in order to internalize the cases declassified by our organization corresponding to the National Gendarmerie, namely: 1-CASE CUTRAL CO (1995) 2-CASE HÉCTOR FLORES (1972) At that meeting he was informed about the central aspects of the events and the trades were held, to contact the production with the main witnesses of the cases. On the other hand, knowledge was exchanged on the news of the declassification of the United States Navy that has been widely disseminated in international media, as well as the actions being carried out by the TTSA that are public knowledge. We thank the organization of the “Unidentified” Production and History Channel for choosing the cases mentioned and the trust placed in our research work covering the UFO declassification process in the Argentine Republic. We remain at the disposal of the producers to facilitate all management for the development of the documentary actions.

silvarecord.com...

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Looks like he had a good time and partied hard too with a couple of hot babes.

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Oh my goodness.
Zondo needs a dating app more than a UFO finder app

a reply to: Willtell

Maybe that's what they are up to? Testing out the new TTSA dating app or AWS App or whatever it's called.

Something to hook up with hot blooded Latin Ladies after hunting UFOs all night? Especially if they seem to present a threat!



Although what happens in Las Heras stays in Las Heras as far as I am concerned.

originally posted by: vlawde

Uh, no habla espanol. Care to translate?

You didn't miss anything - the usual guff about about the importance of a nation's national security when investigating the greatest mystery of our time.

And the current price of cheap Argentinian hookers.

a reply to: mirageman

Either that or he needs an eye exam.



There on for another season, Unidentified

www.the-unidentified.net...

Here’s their propaganda

2020 is going to be the year of TTSA

2020 is going to be epic. If you think 2019 was good for UFO credibility and TTSA then you are in for a hell-of-a-time in 2020. Unidentified returns for a second season (hopefully, early quarter) and with it, a whole host of potential avenues of interest from possible videos, pilot testimony and physical evidence all being debated across UFOTwitter. Pundits are predicting meta-materials will share the center stage alongside more, as of yet released data. On the back burner: the undisclosed TTSA/aerospace and defense contract partnerships may be away from being officially acknowledged, and if the

Going on three years, they’ve done or revealed nothing new

The Role of Microgravity

Whilst people have spoken / shouted about how these meta-materials floating around were not made by "human hands" and due to the layering of them - could not have possibly been made within Earths atmosphere, apparently! I thought I would go looking for links to Bigelow et al in regards to any comments they have made previously regarding production of materials in Zero Gravity. The following - I could say "yes they are all connected" but i simply dont know - what I find interesting are the comments and the relationships we "suspect" exist between Bigelow, Pasulka and Timothy Taylor.

March 17th, 2007 - Coast 2 Coast -Bigelow on NIDs Mutilation Investigations;
BIGELOW

But I think that the…in the cattle mutilation area, as an example. If you wanna say, well what can you make use of? Let’s say this. Let’s supposed you were to ask the question: Well, is there anything about this that might relate beneficially to an application that you can do in some time soon? Well I would say, in the cattle mutilation area for example…gosh, there are some very interesting exhibitions of relatively non-invasive surgery that have removed a great deal of tissue from an animal. And you don’t know under what circumstance that animal was anesthetized or was it already dead or what. But the less invasive you can make your surgery, the faster your recovery, right?

So in a space-based application, that’s very important. You don’t want a lot of loose liquid flying around and so you wanna do things to heal a patient that are the least invasive that you can do.

NOTE: Non-Invasive Surgery, Medical Spaced Based Applications

Coast 2 Coast Interview - Bigelow - September 28th 2008

Bigelow: “[UFOs] are real. How do they do it? Do they have to fabricate something in micro-gravity? In order to get the strength…in order to get the purity of conductivity through the crystal or nano-tube or whatever structure it was, in order to integrate that in a One G environment. Or maybe that’s why? Maybe there’s two kinds of species in the Universe: Those that have large, robust facilities, both in micro-gravity and on a planet, to make their advanced technologies. And then those like us, that essentially only have what we can do on Earth. You know, in a One G environment.

NOTE: Fabrication in MicroGravity

November 22nd 2019 - Knapp Mysterywire interview with Bigelow

Bigelow: Well there may be a connection to our laboratories in space that we’ve never really had opportunities to fundamentally push. Where you have the effects of creating certain things under a One G environment…maybe that contaminates and doesn’t provide the possibilities that a microgravity environment can produce. It’s hard to predict what we don’t know.

NOTE: Creating things in Microgravity

The Spectrum of Human Techno-Hybridity: The Total Recall Effect by Diana Walsh Pasulka

In a December, 2016 interview with Taylor, he has described the process whereby he learned that he could take aninert object, ceramic, and charge it such that it acted like human bone. He ran this experiment on the space shuttle Columbia, because he needed an environment without gravity to test the product.He said, ‘‘This was like a miracle.We basically took a substance that was like dirt, like a rock, and we wanted to see if it could talk with a charged particle, and it did.

Nobody could believe it, but it worked.’’ The newly charged ceramic became the basis for cerment, which has produced many healings. Because many of the doctors who use these products do not know why they work, as in the case of the restoration of eyesight to the blind using stem cells, their effects seem like modern miracles."

NOTE: Creating Medical Applications in Space / Microgravity

My Thoughts;
The reason I include Pasulkas comments regarding Timothy Taylor here - is not only do his companies look at "non invasive surgeries" - using bio-photonic therapies - Bigelow also learning something about mutilations and "non-invasive surgeries - that I found very odd.

Then we have the pattern of note regarding producing things in microgravity conditions - there has been much in regards to these meta-materials not being made by "human hands" and created in a ZeroG environment - BUT - I think that's simply nonsense and the biological aspect is much much more curious.


Sources;
UFO JOE 1
UFO JOE 2
Pasulka Article

Excellent work, Pigsy. Yes, the biological angle easily trumps the other aspects.


Meanwhile, back at TTSA...

originally posted by: Willtell

Here’s their propaganda:

Roll Up, Roll Up...


"2020 is going to be epic. If you think 2019 was good for UFO credibility and TTSA then you are in for a hell-of-a-time in 2020. Unidentified returns for a second season (hopefully, early quarter) and with it, a whole host of potential avenues of interest from possible videos, pilot testimony and physical evidence all being debated across UFOTwitter. Pundits are predicting meta-materials will share the center stage alongside more, as of yet released data. On the back burner: the undisclosed TTSA/aerospace and defense contract partnerships may be away from being officially acknowledged... blah blah bloody blah..."


We were told 2018 was going to be Epic. And then we thought 2019 was going to be Epic. But, as Will says, they've basically presented sweet Fanny Adams that's new in three years. And their propaganda blurb still suffers from an irritating style of expression - "Possible videos"? What does that mean? Either they have them or they don't, especially if this is airing within the next three months.

More to the point, does anybody actually care about TTSA anymore? I mean, isn't it SO last decade now?

a reply to: ConfusedBrit


I’m starting to wonder from my conspiracy gene whether TTSA is an op to besmirch ufology.