Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

a reply to: karl 12

Have to say it's all starting to sound a bit 'cultish' mate.

Yes. Next time I will use the winky face I guess.

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

And HERE it is, Karl - a very useful USO thread by ATSer Skyfloating, listing over a THOUSAND such sightings.

Ah yes my friend, incredibly useful thread (all 39 pages of it) - do remember being pretty flabbergasted at just how many extremely strange global USO reports there actually are.

Did link SkyFloating's thread in the last post but maybe a more focused search on unknown objects emerging from, submerging into or hovering above the surface of the world's oceans might be worth it - especially with the connection to the 'water disturbance' incident.

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

Why USOs are generally forgotten despite being arguably more worthy of investigation than UFOs, is a mystery in itself.

Beats me mate - fascinating subject and Carl Feindt seems to be the go to guy when it comes to research (free E-book here).

originally posted by: coursecatalog

Yes. Next time I will use the winky face I guess.

Ha no worries mate, appreciate the irony but hopefully nobody ends up in Tom Town drinking heavens gateraid.

originally posted by: celltypespecific

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: celltypespecific

Usage of holographic projections is something even Vallee toyed with once.

Spoofing radar is relatively easy in all fairness but we cannot say as we don't have access to that information or the radar data.

I also find it interesting that it's all Nimitz this and nimitz that. The later "sightings" don't seem to get much attention which I find curious.

Wasn't there a report about something underwater near the tic tac sighting?

Yes... I was thinking that the device underwater was the machine used to project the Tic-Tac..?

That's exactly what I've been thinking all along! Secret sub pops up and is basically a hologram projector to make fake objects shiw up on enemy radar. There's no stopping that!

Thanks to Karl for the further USO info.

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint

That's exactly what I've been thinking all along! Secret sub pops up and is basically a hologram projector to make fake objects show up on enemy radar.

Perfect for a training exercise, too.

Could this, in an oblique manner, explain why Fravor and Co were not told about two weeks of continuous alleged sightings before they became actively involved in their own training exercise? According to the recent Rogan interview, his co-pilot was certainly not happy about being kept in the dark.

Dave, on the other hand, took it all in his macho stride... of course.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Didn't TDL insta post about subs surrounding a USO off the coast once too...

Another whacko claim that most forget about..
Ahh here it is;

a reply to: pigsy2400

He’s likely referring to Shag Harbor incident. He had likely just heard about it at that point. Happened back in ‘67 I think.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

The fact that they would publish Lazar’s bogus story makes it certain they aren't an objective ufo research organization.

And all that gibberish from Zondo in their cable show about real objective research was nonsense.

Of course, they need allies and fans so this makes sense from that angle

Looks like you have your tongue so far in your cheek that you could not see the US Navy was poking their's directly at you from the beginnings of your trashy little rant, now that they have confirmed that the Navy UFO videos are real.

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint

originally posted by: celltypespecific

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: celltypespecific

Usage of holographic projections is something even Vallee toyed with once.

Spoofing radar is relatively easy in all fairness but we cannot say as we don't have access to that information or the radar data.

I also find it interesting that it's all Nimitz this and nimitz that. The later "sightings" don't seem to get much attention which I find curious.

Wasn't there a report about something underwater near the tic tac sighting?

Yes... I was thinking that the device underwater was the machine used to project the Tic-Tac..?

That's exactly what I've been thinking all along! Secret sub pops up and is basically a hologram projector to make fake objects shiw up on enemy radar. There's no stopping that!

Maybe land would stop it?

originally posted by: Shere Khaan

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint

originally posted by: celltypespecific

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: celltypespecific

Usage of holographic projections is something even Vallee toyed with once.

Spoofing radar is relatively easy in all fairness but we cannot say as we don't have access to that information or the radar data.

I also find it interesting that it's all Nimitz this and nimitz that. The later "sightings" don't seem to get much attention which I find curious.

Wasn't there a report about something underwater near the tic tac sighting?

Yes... I was thinking that the device underwater was the machine used to project the Tic-Tac..?

That's exactly what I've been thinking all along! Secret sub pops up and is basically a hologram projector to make fake objects shiw up on enemy radar. There's no stopping that!

Maybe land would stop it?

Bob Lazar's Ufo was an example of a land based UFO holographic projection. So no...land would not stop it.
Lazar's "UFO" would occur every Wednesday night...it was a black project to dump energetic particle beams into the atmosphere, thereby producing a "UFO" also it was effective at spoofing radar.

a reply to: Shere Khaan

Touche'
Holograms don't reflect RF either.

The submarine directed energy theory is certainly worthy of consideration but you'd probably need a fairly exotic power supply/energy storage medium to be mobile AND be able to manifest high altitude atmospheric radar targets for the reported lengths of time.

I'm hoping TheDrive are going with the directed energy theory.
SDI provided funding for some very out there projects that could have easily turned into Palladium 6.0 ...as various people have been saying for 2 years.....

a reply to: celltypespecific

Land would stop the secret sub though.

originally posted by: Jukiodone
a reply to: Shere Khaan

Touche'
Holograms don't reflect RF either.

The submarine directed energy theory is certainly worthy of consideration but you'd probably need a fairly exotic power supply/energy storage medium to be mobile AND be able to manifest high altitude atmospheric radar targets for the reported lengths of time.

I'm hoping TheDrive are going with the directed energy theory.
SDI provided funding for some very out there projects that could have easily turned into Palladium 6.0 ...as various people have been saying for 2 years.....

hmm ... you are pretty insightful...
So Juki....couple of questions for ya
1. Are the UAPs terrestrial?
2. Do you think it's driven by anti-gravitics..?
3. Is the Gov. building us up for Disclosure?

So has everbodys thoughts switched from extra terrestrial to terrestrial because of the emergence of these new active plasma holgrams. It certainly seems like theres been a switch flick in the general theory since they were mentioned.

I can believe in the effectiveness of such a tech but are we really going to assume thats what these events were.

a reply to: Catch_a_Fire



I personally don't believe its a holographic projection... I am speculating that Tyler Rogoway from thedrive will claim that it is Holographic Projections, he is about to drop an article sometime this week.

a reply to: celltypespecific

Im thinking, its the only viable explanation the naysayers can find, and we all know they will use every available option to prove that ufos dont exist.


Much like ufology has developed, the art of debunking has to have developed too, swamp gas just wont cut it as a viable explanation for these events.

At least the active plasma hologram theory seems plausible...... But....... Im not convinced either way...... Yet!

a reply to: Catch_a_Fire

It’s all about possibilities, my friend.

Few know the truth…

And those who do don’t say, and those who say don’t know…usually.

And those who are told only believe, and belief is NOT certainty

a reply to: Willtell

Far too many "memetic engineers" out there. One hell of a case study though, they aren't ahem! "wouldn't" be short on data, that's for sure.

a reply to: celltypespecific
There are some interesting papers from military academic and academy's on holographic weaponisation if your care to look for them.

The projected date for any kind of operational platform was 2025 however....in the white world at least.

originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: Catch_a_Fire



I personally don't believe its a holographic projection... I am speculating that Tyler Rogoway from thedrive will claim that it is Holographic Projections, he is about to drop an article sometime this week.

Who even is Rogoway?