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originally posted by: Sublant
originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: Sublant
Nowhere in my post did I state that the RQ170 was what was observed during the nimitz and later sightings.
It was an example of different aspects of the military not sharing information, I made this rather clear.
To even mention RQ-170, which ac wise, is mainly 80's tech slapped together in a hurry, in this discussion is asinine.
What navy sensors have captured on video, and supposedly radar and possibly other sensors, is something we don't even understand the basic operating principles of.
So why exactly would you even bring RQ-170 into this discussion?
Classified systems, platforms and other assets operate alongside frontline units all the time, there's nothing new or strange about that. Anyone who's served, knows this.
originally posted by: Shere Khaan
This thread is so unbelievably confusing.
Please let me know if I get this wrong....
Tic tac, Gimbal and go fast are 3 videos from 2 events a decade or more apart of anomalous phenomena (called UAP) which the navy has officially said that they are unidentified. They have also affirmed the videos themselves are real and not faked. These videos under analysis are disputed to show anything anomalous, although longer versions may exist that do?
In support of these a number of pilots and personnel have come forward to state that they have seen the objects doing anomalous things although like most eyewitness accounts there are some discrepancies.
There is unreleased/classified data, that may either support the pilots or not, from radars, satellites etc.
So why is this kicking up such a big storm? Am I missing something?
To me it looks like exactly what has been going on for 70 years and we are not a single inch closer to any type of "disclosure". In fact we are probably further away than ever because all the rubbish in the media is just stirring up the mud again to make the waters of ufology murkier than ever.
I wish I could share your unbridled optimism, Celltypespecific, but I've been on this merry-go-round before and it doesn't go anywhere, it just stops.
originally posted by: Jukiodone
a reply to: Shere Khaan
Why so glum?
Instead of a top LM guy throwing in an ET slide to liven presentations up- a top LM guy has joined a start up with the specific promise of back engineering an alien spaceship from a metamaterial sample.
Instead of 2 old ladies seeing a UFO on their way back from bingo...you now have a collective of very credible witnesses with supporting telemetric data saying they saw UFO's over multiple engagements.
Instead of having to look at that drawing of an ARV- you can now look at the Navy's actual TR3b patent.
If you are into UFO's /SAPs/Conspiracies etc- there's never been a better time to live.
The Navy has nothing to do with this. All they ever stated is the object in the ATFLIR video could not be identified. They never claimed the ATFLIR video demonstrates ‘otherworldly’ performance. The claim of ‘otherworldly performance’ is only supported by eye-witness accounts, like it has been for the past 70 years.
originally posted by: Sublant
originally posted by: Guest101
The Navy has nothing to do with this. All they ever stated is the object in the ATFLIR video could not be identified. They never claimed the ATFLIR video demonstrates ‘otherworldly’ performance.
The claim of ‘otherworldly performance’ is only supported by eye-witness accounts, like it has been for the past 70 years.
US Navy is tasked, and is supposed to be able to, identify everything and anything flying near capital ships and CONUS. And usually they do. A lot of resources and hard work has gone into that.
Now with these videos, and supposedly other sensor data, they can't. My somewhat experienced opinion is, if they can't, no one can. And mind you, when they try to identify these things, they take into consideration everything.
What does that mean? To me it means, we're not in Kansas anymore.
Ps isnt the week over for tdls big world shattering announcement?Did i miss anything?
people, we got to figure out whats the truth about ufos and we wont achieve this by talking and endlessly talking and thinking about it over and over again. do we need thousands of more reports or pictures? how can we ever tell what is true and what is not true?
the world is ready for this. you, who reads, and i - we are ready for this.
there is no difference between you and me. there is no difference between us all.
we have to unite people, we just have to and this is serious.
lets us take this very first step.
let us take it now and let us not forget, what the world has seen yet and what there is to come for us.
we are the mighty ones.
we have to form a very new kind of community.
we have to form a community with influence, because we are the influence.
we have to form a new generation, because we are the new generation.
we have to form a community out of the real power and this power i am describing, that is the power actually we do posses, not our so called leaders.
we are the mighty ones.
we, the people, do not want or even need leaders.
leaders that rage war and bring suffering to us since thousands of years!
since thousands of years we have been living in the absence of ourselves.
since thousands of years we suffered and we died - for nothing.
thousands of years and thousands of tears - for nothing?
we have to turn the tables - now!
we are the mighty ones.
we are many and we have no fear.
we are the mighty ones.
we will come and go, but we will prevail.
soon, there will be a website available you will be able to receive more information. and we will spread flyers everywhere with that website and it will appear in every language the people speak. godspeed to you all
originally posted by: coursecatalog
a reply to: celltypespecific
Is this just an infunny joke or are they serious?
Either way DeLonge is literally #ting on investors.
originally posted by: Catch_a_Fire
a reply to: celltypespecific
You seem very excitable, regarding whats to come from ttsa, almost like your in the loop, so to speak.
Would I be pushing my luck by asking.... How?
I cant work out if your promoting them (ttsa) or preparing us for, what some might find, earth shattering news.
Dont take my query in any type of disparaging way, Im just genuinely interested in what your spin is on/in this.