Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

a reply to: Phage

I understand that.
But UFOlogy is not interested in anything but what is the origin of the unidentified DISKS in the sky

NOT any other kind of atmospheric phenomenon unrelated to that.
UAP IMO is a pretentious diversion.


TTSA even employing that term in light of their ideas makes no sense, since they want to confirm that these objects are alien threats, not any kind of unknown atmospheric phenomenon.

a reply to: Willtell

UAP IMO is a pretentious diversion.

On whose part?

a reply to: Phage

Maybe whoever invented it. Maybe not.

It probably is just a term someone thought would sound a little more deep or scientific.

I’ve followed UFOS forever and rarely recall very many
white 40 foot long tic tacs. Triangle disks cigars you betcha.
I think Tic Tacs are special weapons project of USN origin .
Pretty amazing tech if accounts are true.

Below is the current state-of-the-art in space flight....
As to why the observed UAPs are not ours.

In my humble opinion,that’s state of the art for Space X.
The United States Navy is a different animal.

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: Sublant

Nowhere in my post did I state that the RQ170 was what was observed during the nimitz and later sightings.

It was an example of different aspects of the military not sharing information, I made this rather clear.

To even mention RQ-170, which ac wise, is mainly 80's tech slapped together in a hurry, in this discussion is asinine.

What navy sensors have captured on video, and supposedly radar and possibly other sensors, is something we don't even understand the basic operating principles of.

So why exactly would you even bring RQ-170 into this discussion?

Classified systems, platforms and other assets operate alongside frontline units all the time, there's nothing new or strange about that. Anyone who's served, knows this.

originally posted by: Willtell
Aerial phenomena are NOT relative to alien vehicles or Ufology

Of course they are.

originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak
I think Tic Tacs are special weapons project of USN origin .
Pretty amazing tech if accounts are true.

I sure hope so.

Really, really hope that's the case.

Probably isn't though.

This thread is so unbelievably confusing.

Please let me know if I get this wrong....

Tic tac, Gimbal and go fast are 3 videos from 2 events a decade or more apart of anomalous phenomena (called UAP) which the navy has officially said that they are unidentified. They have also affirmed the videos themselves are real and not faked. These videos under analysis are disputed to show anything anomalous, although longer versions may exist that do?

In support of these a number of pilots and personnel have come forward to state that they have seen the objects doing anomalous things although like most eyewitness accounts there are some discrepancies.

There is unreleased/classified data, that may either support the pilots or not, from radars, satellites etc.

So why is this kicking up such a big storm? Am I missing something?

To me it looks like exactly what has been going on for 70 years and we are not a single inch closer to any type of "disclosure". In fact we are probably further away than ever because all the rubbish in the media is just stirring up the mud again to make the waters of ufology murkier than ever.

I wish I could share your unbridled optimism, Celltypespecific, but I've been on this merry-go-round before and it doesn't go anywhere, it just stops.

a reply to: Shere Khaan

it just stops.

Not yet it doesn't.
Thanks to Tom.

a reply to: Shere Khaan

Why so glum?

Instead of a top LM guy throwing in an ET slide to liven presentations up- a top LM guy has joined a start up with the specific promise of back engineering an alien spaceship from a metamaterial sample.

Instead of 2 old ladies seeing a UFO on their way back from bingo...you now have a collective of very credible witnesses with supporting telemetric data saying they saw UFO's over multiple engagements.

Instead of having to look at that drawing of an ARV- you can now look at the Navy's actual TR3b patent.

If you are into UFO's /SAPs/Conspiracies etc- there's never been a better time to live.

They saw ufos yes

But these ufos arent from another planet.Uncle sam goes to great lengths to convince us these are from alpha hoaxuri. What we see is non lethal weapons used on military personnel. As happened in rendlesam case. Uncle sam has great mind control tech that uses it whenever he can.He did it in Colares, he did it in rendlesham, he did it in Belgium, he did it with the huge craft over phoenix.

These could be indeed military hardware,or they could be superb illusions.



As i mentioned some pages earlier,at some point the powers that be will have to deliver. Mayhap we will see a new 9/11 but this time it will be a ufo doing the aggression. Reagan said 3-4 times we would be united if aliens attacked,MacArthur said the same. Now enter delonge who says invest because aliens are not benign, but invest because even though the end of the world might come long live capitalism.

War is needed from nations to control their people, When the new 9/11 happens more freedoms will be sacrificed in the name of national security. We may very well have 70 years of modern lie-ology

a reply to: Shere Khaan

So why is this kicking up such a big storm? Am I missing something?

Well, TTSA is a Multimedia Entertainment Company.

Are you not entertained?

We did it!!
The world is blown!!!!




Anti-gravity Toilet!!!!

Go TTSA!!
LOL


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originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: Arbitrageur

Celty, did you ever try to make that graph yourself as I suggested back on page 89, to confirm these PhD's (and a retired computer programmer named Larry Cates) claiming something other than what that graph shows are incompetent?

Ok so essentially you are stating that Kevin Knuth, Robert M Powell, Pete A. Reali, The three reviewers of the manuscript....and the entire NAVY's Analytics Department who characterize this video as an UAP are freaking IDIOTS....??

Hhhmm I need to think about that...

You don't need to think, you can check the facts for yourself like Arby suggests. Science is about objectively verifiable facts, remember?

It’s an undeniable fact that the writers of the article push an interpretation of the ATFLIR video that is false (the interpretation that the object displays ‘otherworldly’ performance).
Whether that makes them idiots, believers blinded by confirmation bias, people too proud or stubborn to admit that they’re wrong, or clever manipulators of public opinion – I don’t know.
I don’t know who the ‘three reviewers’ were either, but the public review comments on the preprint site were ignored so maybe the other three reviewers were ignored as well.

The Navy has nothing to do with this. All they ever stated is the object in the ATFLIR video could not be identified. They never claimed the ATFLIR video demonstrates ‘otherworldly’ performance.
The claim of ‘otherworldly performance’ is only supported by eye-witness accounts, like it has been for the past 70 years.

originally posted by: IMSAM

Mayhap we will see a new 9/11 but this time it will be a ufo doing the aggression. Reagan said 3-4 times we would be united if aliens attacked,MacArthur said the same. Now enter delonge who says invest because aliens are not benign, but invest because even though the end of the world might come long live capitalism.

War is needed from nations to control their people, When the new 9/11 happens more freedoms will be sacrificed in the name of national security.

Placing Reagan and MacArthur on the same shelf as an ageing punk rocker who sang about f#ing dogs in the a# is a bit of a leap, though.

However, you need to write that exciting NWO screenplay now, IMSAM - before Tom Cruise is genuinely too long in the tooth to do the jumping about.

I'd definitely go and see it.

originally posted by: celltypespecific
We did it!!
The world is blown!!!!

Anti-gravity Toilet!!!!

Go TTSA!!
LOL

Something has definitely blown!!!



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....In space no one car hear you_______!

LOL!

Tic-Tac Toilet Company®

originally posted by: Guest101
The Navy has nothing to do with this. All they ever stated is the object in the ATFLIR video could not be identified. They never claimed the ATFLIR video demonstrates ‘otherworldly’ performance.
The claim of ‘otherworldly performance’ is only supported by eye-witness accounts, like it has been for the past 70 years.

US Navy is tasked, and is supposed to be able to, identify everything and anything flying near capital ships and CONUS. And usually they do. A lot of resources and hard work has gone into that.

Now with these videos, and supposedly other sensor data, they can't. My somewhat experienced opinion is, if they can't, no one can. And mind you, when they try to identify these things, they take into consideration everything.

What does that mean? To me it means, we're not in Kansas anymore.

Interesting comment....