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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
It wouldn't be hyperbole to say the left attracts the low IQ and mentally-weak to their party.
This isn't meant to be an insult, but rather an observable fact.
That you can’t prove....
You guys prove it for me everyday.
But I'll at least give you credit for somewhat evolving from what you once were.
originally posted by: Assassin82
a reply to: CriticalStinker
Thanks! I definitely am not trying to come across as "whining" about it. I just think ATS has so much more room for better conversations.
originally posted by: Assassin82
Now, I can confirm some of these things. The site is clearly right leaning now. There are only a few brave liberals left who stand up for their views left here. I'd assume that most of them got sick of the constant right leaning rhetoric. Most political content gets posted in the mudpit where it seems the gloves come off and any chance for an intelligent conversation is gone. I know the moderators do their best but it seems like they can't keep up with the postings. And the users who rely on the mudpit to constantly post their content are using it as a place to release their internal rage on whatever topic has them stirred up. The owners are pretty much long gone. The only time we see them pop up is when there is a profit to be made, a documentary to pitch, or a book to be sold. It would be nice for them to reengage to try and help balance the conversation a little but it's not happening.
Another thing to consider is the overall state of political ideology in America and how it translates here. Everyone is either far left or alt right. Except they're not. Most people fall in the middle but the fringe is the most vocal. It's fair to assume that those fringe vocalists have found various places on the internet to dig into to spread their beliefs as best as they can. Reddit, for example, is heavily populated by vocal leftists spreading a progressive ideology. With Reddit, however, you could choose to ignore certain subreddits and only see content which you choose to see. You can't really do that here as effectively.
But that's part of the problem...we shouldn't be ignoring opposing viewpoints. Instead we should be embracing them in intelligent dialogue. Most importantly...we must be willing to accept the fact that sometimes our individual views are wrong, or can be viewed a little differently when discussed with factual content. By now we have to assume that most of the American media infrastructure is infected with Russian bots and partisan politics. I'm almost certain this site has had some Russian bots disseminating information but I wouldn't know how to prove it. And with that, we should be able to recognize that very, very few news outlets and news sources can be trusted with truthful, unbiased content. Yet, most conversation on here relies on ideological propaganda to back them up.
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
It wouldn't be hyperbole to say the left attracts the low IQ and mentally-weak to their party.
This isn't meant to be an insult, but rather an observable fact.
originally posted by: schuyler
So somebody decided to edit Wiki to say Trump has taken over ATS, thus the issue with Wikipedia becomes apparent. It wasn't log ago that Ron Paul supporters "dominated" ATS, and after that it was all about Bernie. It certainly felt like THOSE guys dominated ATS for a good long while. Now Trump supporters have "found a voice" and you are upset.
From my standpoint politics has "taken over" ATS to the point that alternative subjects like UFOs have been shoved under the table. But you know what? I know that I am capable of formulating as many UFO threads as I want. And when I do they usually have a pretty good run.
So stop whining and make ATS what you want it to be. But if you want to go down on Hillary in front of the rest of us, expect to take some heat. And if you can't stand that, leave. Nobody owes you your concept of "free and open debate." This is NOT a public forum where anyone has to pay attention to your "free speech rights." It's privately owned, so get over yourself.