Handbags

a reply to: surfer_soul

That particular picture looks more like a weight (as Harte suggested)than anything else.

Harte suggested these where buckets. If its a weight then it should have been defined as such by now. Otherswise it is simply guess work on your and Hartes part.

a reply to: purplemer

No Harte said that particular object was a weight in this very thread, the others shown in the carvings he says are buckets. As that image you posted isn’t hollow I’d have to agree its most likely a standard weight.

As for the ones in the carvings your guess is as good as mine, though I suspect they were more significant than simple buckets, weights or bags.

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: purplemer

No Harte said that particular object was a weight in this very thread, the others shown in the carvings he says are buckets. As that image you posted isn’t hollow I’d have to agree its most likely a standard weight.

As for the ones in the carvings your guess is as good as mine, though I suspect they were more significant than simple buckets, weights or bags.

I suspect the same too. There is no evidence to suggest these bags where used at weights. The weights used by these societies are well known. Do the bags correspond.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: surfer_soul

That particular picture looks more like a weight (as Harte suggested)than anything else.

Harte suggested these where buckets. If its a weight then it should have been defined as such by now. Otherswise it is simply guess work on your and Hartes part.

They are solid, and there's rub marks on the handle like those that would result from it being hung up.
And they are heavy. Like doorstops.

Harte

originally posted by: purplemer

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: purplemer

No Harte said that particular object was a weight in this very thread, the others shown in the carvings he says are buckets. As that image you posted isn’t hollow I’d have to agree its most likely a standard weight.

As for the ones in the carvings your guess is as good as mine, though I suspect they were more significant than simple buckets, weights or bags.

I suspect the same too. There is no evidence to suggest these bags where used at weights. The weights used by these societies are well known. Do the bags correspond.

You'd need to look at the culture they came from. They aren't Sumerian. But it's possible they were fashioned to look like the bags the Assyrian apkallu hold.

Almost every pic of these bags you see from Mesopotamia are Assyrian, not Babylonian, Akkadian or Sumerian.
Seems like I remember seeing some Hittite too, but they look different.

Don't remember where the "weights" come from though.

Harte

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: punkinworks10

You need to put a little more effort in your research, first Isis is an Egyptian deity that came to the Romans via the Greeks, well after the founding of the Republic.

I agree we all need to do more research! ISIS is Tiamat. But again I think you are using an incorrect interpation. What do you think the eye of Horus is.. BOOM!! You cracked yes its the pineal gland.

Its the same thing. Be in delusion the church knows its significance. Why do you think they had the statue carted back to the Vatican.

What do you think Jesus meant when he was talking about the eye. The single eye that is..

As I keep saying the writing is on the table for all to see.

Look at what you posted. If you do, you'll see that the pineal gland isn't even a tiny piece of that stupid eye overlay.
The pineal gland is the tiny little fingerling hanging off the back of the thalamus.

Funny how nobody makes these claims about the thalamus being the third eye because you can line up an eye of Horus over it.

Harte

ETA: Maybe it's just my "inner bird" trying to get out. LOL
How idiotic does it actually get? Much worse than this, I fear.

H.

If the Egyptians knew about the pineal gland and thought it to be important, then why did they scramble it up with the rest of the tissue in the cranium, drain it from the cranium and then discard it?

Harte said, "And they are heavy. Like doorstops."

Perhaps they invented curling.



Toto, I don't think we're in the Ukraine anymore

originally posted by: punkinworks10
If the Egyptians knew about the pineal gland and thought it to be important, then why did they scramble it up with the rest of the tissue in the cranium, drain it from the cranium and then discard it?

Pineal envy.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

The association between the between the pineal gland and the third eye isn’t a new age concept. It goes far back into esoteric traditions. Which is probably all hog wash for you. Regardless the initiates vowed to keep the information imparted to them secret under penalty of death. So it’s safe to say they thought their knowledge a bit special.

originally posted by: punkinworks10
If the Egyptians knew about the pineal gland and thought it to be important, then why did they scramble it up with the rest of the tissue in the cranium, drain it from the cranium and then discard it?

Did they?
Was the person dead when the above was done to the brain and pineal gland?
I think so.
The pineal gland is more important when the person is alive... me thinks.

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: Harte

The association between the between the pineal gland and the third eye isn’t a new age concept. It goes far back into esoteric traditions. Which is probably all hog wash for you. Regardless the initiates vowed to keep the information imparted to them secret under penalty of death. So it’s safe to say they thought their knowledge a bit special.

It dates back to a time when nobody knew what the pineal gland did. Anatomy was known, but purpose was not. At least for the endocrine system and (of course) the brain.

In that era, it was also thought that rotting meat actually turned into flies (spontaneous generation.) If these esoterics had latched on to that, what would we be arguing about today?

Harte

Well the god Shiva carried a bag and the god Brahma carried a pot.

Both objects were said to be supernatural in nature very intereting legends about elixer and magical items held within.

a reply to: Harte

How do you know what people knew or believed back then?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Harte

How do you know what people knew or believed back then?

Because this line about the pineal gland originates with Rene Descartes, who could write.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

Are you saying that before Descarte no one ever considered or spoke about the pineal gland?

a reply to: Harte

The Pineal gland is seen as the seat of the soul and you could identify it in every major religious book. You want to go there again. Do you,..

a reply to: Harte

Was it Descartes that wrote that people back then (in the days of handbags) believed rotting meat turned into flies?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Harte

Are you saying that before Descarte no one ever considered or spoke about the pineal gland?

No, I said this particular idea dates to around Descartes' era.
The pineal gland was first discussed by Galen, but nothing about a third eye or waking anything up.
You can read what Galen thought here: Link

Harte

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Harte

The Pineal gland is seen as the seat of the soul and you could identify it in every major religious book. You want to go there again. Do you,..

Go ahead and go there. I'm tired of your pronouncements without any evidence.

Harte