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originally posted by: Gargoyle91
a reply to: Toolman18
I believe they hold the key to ever lasting life not immortality but Long long life some of the Sumerian kings lived for ages .
I will reiterate here that these are Apkallu, or in Sumerian Abgal. They were not gods
In several contexts the Apkallu are seven demi-gods, sometimes described as part man and part fish, associated with human wisdom; these creatures are often referred to in scholarly literature as the Seven Sages. Each sage has an association with a specific mythic King.
After the seventh sage and king, a deluge (see Epic of Gilgamesh) is said to have occurred. Records list further sages and further historic king pairings. Post-deluge, the sages are considered human, and in some texts are distinguished by being referred to as Ummanu, not Apkallu.
The terms Apkallu (as well as Abgal) is also used as an epithet for kings and gods as a mark of wisdom or knowledge. A further use of the term Apkallu is when referring to figurines used in apotropaic rituals; these figurines include fish-man hybrids representing the seven sages, but also include bird-headed and other figures.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Harte
I will reiterate here that these are Apkallu, or in Sumerian Abgal. They were not gods
That is simply not the case.
In several contexts the Apkallu are seven demi-gods, sometimes described as part man and part fish, associated with human wisdom; these creatures are often referred to in scholarly literature as the Seven Sages. Each sage has an association with a specific mythic King.
After the seventh sage and king, a deluge (see Epic of Gilgamesh) is said to have occurred. Records list further sages and further historic king pairings. Post-deluge, the sages are considered human, and in some texts are distinguished by being referred to as Ummanu, not Apkallu.
The terms Apkallu (as well as Abgal) is also used as an epithet for kings and gods as a mark of wisdom or knowledge. A further use of the term Apkallu is when referring to figurines used in apotropaic rituals; these figurines include fish-man hybrids representing the seven sages, but also include bird-headed and other figures.
en.wikipedia.org...
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Harte
our link does not support your contention. Do you know what an epithet is, or a demi-god?
Yes i do but you dont. The Gods bread with men..
btw The pinecone from the Vatican. Came from Rome (the temple of ISIS) nothing to do with pinenuts!
Regarding the pine cone, I quoted and linked all you need to know. The fact that you won't accept it is on you.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Harte
Regarding the pine cone, I quoted and linked all you need to know. The fact that you won't accept it is on you.
No its not all i need to know. The pine cone symbol is used in mythos the world over. If you cant read the meaing of it thats on you not me.
originally posted by: purplemer
btw The pinecone from the Vatican. Came from Rome (the temple of ISIS) nothing to do with pinenuts!
Cones and seeds of stone pine, fruit such as fig and grape and nuts such as walnut and hazel were present in many of them.
You need to put a little more effort in your research, first Isis is an Egyptian deity that came to the Romans via the Greeks, well after the founding of the Republic.
originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: pheonix358
I like your humour.
In regards to the 'handbags' I think they were some kind of advanced technology, perhaps multifunctional; to carve stones, to lift heavy objects, maybe even to store data and emit sound etc. Like a smartphone but better.
Graham Hancock has a lot of good material on them.
originally posted by: chris_stibrany
I agree . I like to read lately about correlations between religions, metaphysics, and myths in regards to ancient history and even ancient physics. My current fixation is Hermetic correspondences and Qabbalistic correspondences such as Hermes= Thoth = Tahuti = Mercury = Oannes = Dagon = Quetzalcoatl.
Or even Saturn = Black Sun = Tiamat = the Great Dragon = Dispersion = Choronzon = Chaos
a reply to: FormOfTheLord