Handbags

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Harte




Thank you for your reply and link was good to read. But no where it does it offer any proof that people know what the bags where used for. It offers an explanation and really a poor one at that. The pine cone shape that is being held has nothing to do with trees as in inferred. Thats made up stuff. It is representive of the pineal gland. The third eye of the seat of the soul.

Go and do a search for gods holding pineal gland. You will find a host of different ones from different cultures. Heck even the vatican has a giant stautue of one. Here is it! They know the truth and are keeping it suppressed.

See any resemblance.

Your posts are refreshing to read and you add interesting ideas to the conversation.

Just want to say thanks for the information and ideas keep up the good work.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Thank you very much for that. Happy Days to you!

a reply to: Harte

I am aware of that - thank you...

originally posted by: Harte
a reply to: fluff007
Those are Assyrian, not Sumerian.

Harte

Stop dicing hairs address the points made. Fluff is correct regardless. We are looking at a representation of the pineal gland.

originally posted by: Sirstudly
a reply to: Toolman18

I find it very interesting that pillar 43 at gobleki tepi has three of these handbags. This site is a minimum of 11 thousand years old so these handbags have been important for a very long time. www.google.com... mgrc=VAo5QPDA9bhpMM:

Yes the bags have been revered a long time. They show a shared culture.

originally posted by: purplemer

originally posted by: Harte
a reply to: fluff007
Those are Assyrian, not Sumerian.

Harte

Stop dicing hairs address the points made. Fluff is correct regardless. We are looking at a representation of the pineal gland.

Yes. Let's just ignore the fact that one item was called a "bucket" and the other a "purifier" by the very culture in which these figures originated.

Harte

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Harte




Thank you for your reply and link was good to read. But no where it does it offer any proof that people know what the bags where used for. It offers an explanation and really a poor one at that. The pine cone shape that is being held has nothing to do with trees as in inferred. Thats made up stuff. It is representive of the pineal gland. The third eye of the seat of the soul.

Go and do a search for gods holding pineal gland. You will find a host of different ones from different cultures. Heck even the vatican has a giant stautue of one. Here is it! They know the truth and are keeping it suppressed.

See any resemblance.

It would seem that you are unaware of the size of the human pineal gland. It's only 5 or 6 millimeters long.
Those are some tiny "giants" if that's a pineal gland they're holding.

Harte

originally posted by: purplemer

originally posted by: Sirstudly
a reply to: Toolman18

I find it very interesting that pillar 43 at gobleki tepi has three of these handbags. This site is a minimum of 11 thousand years old so these handbags have been important for a very long time. www.google.com... mgrc=VAo5QPDA9bhpMM:

Yes the bags have been revered a long time. They show a shared culture.

There's no evidence those are bags or buckets.

Harte

originally posted by: purplemer

Go and do a search for gods holding pineal gland. You will find a host of different ones from different cultures. Heck even the vatican has a giant stautue of one. Here is it! They know the truth and are keeping it suppressed.

Pigna is the name of rione IX of Rome, located in Municipio I of the city. The name means "pine cone" in Italian, and the symbol for the rione is the colossal bronze pine cone, the Pigna.

source
A "rione" is an administrative division of Rome. Like boroughs in New York City.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

I thought you new your stuff. You are spreading misinformation. You stated that the bag theory was all buttoned up and people new what it was. You provided no evidence. A fabricated story.

The statue is representative of the third eye and just like the bag is found across many unlinked cultures (by your own admission)

Here have a look

Conifer Pine Trees are one of the most ancient plant genera on the planet, having existed nearly three times longer than all flowering plant species. The Pinecone is the evolutionary precursor to the flower, and its spines spiral in a perfect Fibonacci sequence in either direction, much like the Sacred Geometry of a rose or a sunflower. Throughout the span of recorded human history,

Pinecones have served as a symbolic representation of Human Enlightenment, the Third Eye and the Pineal gland

in5d.com...

a reply to: Harte

Yes. Let's just ignore the fact that one item was called a "bucket" and the other a "purifier" by the very culture in which these figures originated.

Dice it how you will. But answer this. What is he carrying..

a reply to: Harte

There's no evidence those are bags or buckets.

Apart from the three bags at the top of the pillar!

a reply to: purplemer

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Harte

There's no evidence those are bags or buckets.

Apart from the three bags at the top of the pillar!

You see them as bags. Nobody is holding one, so I see that there's no way to tell.
For example, the recent proposal about G.T.'s carvings representing constellations says these things you see as bags represent sunsets.

Dice it how you will. But answer this. What is he carrying..

Well, I already told you what the people that created the artwork said - they are buckets. And purifiers.

Harte

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Harte

I thought you new your stuff. You are spreading misinformation. You stated that the bag theory was all buttoned up and people new what it was. You provided no evidence. A fabricated story.

What I provided was the English translation of Sumerian words - words applied to the two items you're interested in, the bucket and cone.
The translation was from Black and Green, two gentlemen that have forgotten more about ancient Sumer and its language than you will ever have a chance to even hear about.
You, on the other hand, show a picture of a giant pine cone - representing a borough of Rome named after the pine tree - and called it a "pineal gland."
So, who, exactly, is making stuff up here?

Harte

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: purplemer

Go and do a search for gods holding pineal gland. You will find a host of different ones from different cultures. Heck even the vatican has a giant stautue of one. Here is it! They know the truth and are keeping it suppressed.

Pigna is the name of rione IX of Rome, located in Municipio I of the city. The name means "pine cone" in Italian, and the symbol for the rione is the colossal bronze pine cone, the Pigna.

source
A "rione" is an administrative division of Rome. Like boroughs in New York City.

Harte

Just so people know pine nuts were an important food staple for the Latins, hence the reverence for the pine cone.

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Harte

There's no evidence those are bags or buckets.

Apart from the three bags at the top of the pillar!

You see them as bags. Nobody is holding one, so I see that there's no way to tell.
For example, the recent proposal about G.T.'s carvings representing constellations says these things you see as bags represent sunsets.

Dice it how you will. But answer this. What is he carrying..

Well, I already told you what the people that created the artwork said - they are buckets. And purifiers.

Harte

Really??? Just buckets. Of all the things they could represent the gods having....buckets. Just empty buckets?? Does that make sense to you? This symbol has been used all around the world for over ten thousand years and you think its just a bucket. That's the most important thing they could etch into stone???

Regarding pillar 43 at gobleki tepi, are you saying you believe that they are a different symbol? If so, why? And if not, then why would buckets be of such importance for these vast spans of time?

You don't seem very open to ideas and seem to think this is all settled! A rather naive stance to take.

originally posted by: Sirstudly

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Harte

There's no evidence those are bags or buckets.

Apart from the three bags at the top of the pillar!

You see them as bags. Nobody is holding one, so I see that there's no way to tell.
For example, the recent proposal about G.T.'s carvings representing constellations says these things you see as bags represent sunsets.

Dice it how you will. But answer this. What is he carrying..

Well, I already told you what the people that created the artwork said - they are buckets. And purifiers.

Harte

Really??? Just buckets. Of all the things they could represent the gods having....buckets. Just empty buckets?? Does that make sense to you? This symbol has been used all around the world for over ten thousand years and you think its just a bucket. That's the most important thing they could etch into stone???

Regarding pillar 43 at gobleki tepi, are you saying you believe that they are a different symbol? If so, why? And if not, then why would buckets be of such importance for these vast spans of time?

I stated there's no reason to believe they are buckets. As I said, the recent astrological claim made calls them representations of sunsets.
Just because they look like buckets doesn't make them buckets.
As was stated earlier in this thread (I believe it was this thread,) some of the "bucket" pics presented are actually standard weights used on scales.

originally posted by: Sirstudly
You don't seem very open to ideas and seem to think this is all settled! A rather naive stance to take.

It's what they were called in Akkadian and Sumerian cuneiform writings, so you can't blame me for it and it doesn't matter what I think. We don't have any choice, since the language is translatable. They are buckets.
What they held is another matter.
The bucket and cone were definitely used in purification rituals. Since nobody has ever found any writings concerning exactly what was being dipped into with the cone and applied or sprinkled, we have no way (right now) of knowing the contents of the buckets (holy water, anointing oil, pollen of some sort, whatever,) but we DO know they are buckets because, as I said, that's what the people that held the belief called them.

Lastly, you said " Of all the things they could represent the gods having..." I will reiterate here that these are Apkallu, or in Sumerian Abgal. They were not gods and weren't worshiped by anyone, as far as has been found anyway.

Harte

a reply to: Toolman18

I believe they hold the key to ever lasting life not immortality but Long long life some of the Sumerian kings lived for ages .

Obi-wan Kenobi voice:

"That's no pine cone..."



It's an artichoke.