Gravity.

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: Akragon

a reply to: turbonium1



Prove it to yourself then... IF there is no pull towards the ground, jump off something decently high...



Tell us about it once you come home from the hospital



And there IS resistence... but its minimal compared to your mass

There's no resistance to the small mass of birds, flying opposite your great force of 'gravity', proving it is complete, and utter nonsense.



Falling through air is not a 'pull from below'. A bird is proof that no force exists, below, that 'pulls' everything down to Earth. It would offer resistance to a bird, if it existed. No resistance proves it does not exist.





That's the reality- whether you choose to keep on denying it, or accept it, is up to you.

There is resistance to birds too you twit...

They have wings...lol

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: turbonium1

IF there is no pull towards the ground, jump off something decently high...

It won't be his IQ then

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: Akragon

a reply to: turbonium1



Prove it to yourself then... IF there is no pull towards the ground, jump off something decently high...



Tell us about it once you come home from the hospital



And there IS resistence... but its minimal compared to your mass

There's no resistance to the small mass of birds, flying opposite your great force of 'gravity', proving it is complete, and utter nonsense.



Falling through air is not a 'pull from below'. A bird is proof that no force exists, below, that 'pulls' everything down to Earth. It would offer resistance to a bird, if it existed. No resistance proves it does not exist.





That's the reality- whether you choose to keep on denying it, or accept it, is up to you.

There is resistance to birds too you twit...

They have wings...lol

The wings are a force, allowing birds to fly above Earth.

But you believe there is a very powerful force in the Earth, which pulls all objects down to the surface of Earth, acting against any force that might try to oppose it's powerful grip.

How cute, to believe in such a force, so powerful, it can't even resist a tiny insect, or a little bird, opposing it!!

a reply to: turbonium1

again, its just reality... its why everything drops straight down and not sideways...

Its why we don't float... birds use something called "lift"... another concept that you are clueless about

The better question aside from your ridiculous statements of nonsense is...

who the hell stared your post?!?

Must be another flat earther floating around here...

if wings :

" are a force that .............. "

then what are wings acting against ?????????????????????????????????????

a same man would have to conclude that cretinous troll is just making it up - sentense by sentance

because its not even internally consistent in a single post

So, are we floating?

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: turbonium1

again, its just reality... its why everything drops straight down and not sideways...

Its why we don't float... birds use something called "lift"... another concept that you are clueless about

The better question aside from your ridiculous statements of nonsense is...

who the hell stared your post?!?

Must be another flat earther floating around here...

You argue that everything must be 'pulled down' to Earth, by a force, otherwise, everything would 'float', above Earth, without a force to 'pull everything down to Earth'!!

Nothing else can possibly explain why everything is on Earth, unless it is a 'force', which 'pulls everything down to Earth'...except when a bird, or insect, flies above Earth, which has nothing to do with that force, it is merely 'lift'!!


How could a bird, or insect, be able to 'lift' itself above Earth, if a great, powerful force is pulling everything down to Earth, all the time? That's utter nonsense.


Simply compare 'gravity' to any other REAL, PROVEN FORCE, to see how real forces work, within reality ....

Magnetic force is a great example, which creates a 'pull' on specific objects, same as 'gravity' is supposedly 'pulling' objects towards the Earth...

Two directional forces, which are 'pulling' objects towards them, right?

It has nothing to do with 'lift', because if we attached metal to insects, magnetic force would offer resistance, and the insects wouldn't be able to fly away...

At least, insects would struggle, in trying to fly away from the magnetic force, which 'pulls' it in...


Every other force acts in the same way, as well.


A force must offer resistance to an opposing force, that's why we know, and prove, it exists...

What happens if a steel screw is near enough to a strong magnet? The magnet pulls in the coin, and holds it..

You say gravity will do the same, with every object on Earth - pulling it in, and holding it to Earth - yes?

Magnets offer resistance to a coin that is pulled from the magnet, while 'gravity' offers no resistance to any object going opposite to the surface....like birds, or insects, in flight.


Every force offers resistance to opposing forces, no exceptions.


If a coin was on top of a magnet, but nobody saw the coin before it was on top of the magnet, does it mean the coin was pulled to the magnet, because a coin on top of a magnet must have been pulled there?

When the coin is lifted from the magnet, what will determine if the magnet holds the coin, or not pulled at all, only we found it on top of the magnet?

We don't assume the magnet forced the coin on top, only by seeing it there, on top, right?

Assuming the object, this coin, is held by a magnet, was pulled to the magnet, only because a coin is seen on a magnet, is a false, unsupported conclusion....right?

You assume gravity is 'pulling all objects to Earth', because that's where objects are seen. You conclude - at where objects are found - all of the objects must be 'pulled to Earth, by some type of unknown, unseen... force', Surely, if no force pulled down objects, everything would be 'floating' above Earth!!


Nonsense, of course.

a reply to: turbonium1

Nonsense, of course.

You said it!

a reply to: turbonium1

I suggest you look at this link and learn something it seems you did not complete any worthwhile education.

Newtons Law of Universal Gravitation

Like most people that think like you, you have to learn the difference between MASS & weight and how forces intereact.

If you actually found a directional force which has never shown to exist, and required of all other forces to prove they might really exist, first of all, let alone if the force acts alone, or even at all, or in part, with other forces, or factors, involved in some way, which is yet unknown, or so forth....

Why do they accept this one, single force, when nobody even has proven this force exists at all, or if they actually had proof it exists, how could they know it's the only force involved, as they claim, like it's an omnipotent, all-powerful, force, which can pull all objects to it, or stop pulling, to hold in place, or not pull birds or insects at all, too, etc...


And to suggest this 'force' explains anything, let alone it explains our 'endless universe', is a complete joke.

Gravity doesn't even exist, it's based on assuming Earth is round, zipping through space. Because everyone knows that space is endless, we know the Earth is always hurling into unknown space, at all times....

Except the force of gravity will pull every star, while Earth is zipping through space, in perfect synchronization, even while stars are millions of light years from Earth....gravity explains all that, of course!


So when millions of stars above Earth move along at once, with Earth, and always remain in the exact same position, it's all due to 'gravity'.... obviously! That's why we see the same stars, in the same position, all the time!!


Some of you may wish to believe that millions of stars, millions of light years from Earth, could actually exist, with every single star all moving in sync, with Earth, as it zips through 'space'.

Anyone has to believe in a magical force, to believe in such absurd fantasy..


It should be obvious to see how absurd it is, to explain how stars are the same, in your endless 'space' argument..


It's very simple, in fact. All stars are the same, at the same position, since all stars were created, just as the Earth was created. No convoluted excuses needed.

a reply to: wmd_2008

learn something

did not complete worthwile education

people that think like you

aren't we a ray of *** sunshine

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance


Gravity is the core belief supporting the solar system theory.

If you were to debunk gravity you'd debunk the entire universe theory.

Is gravity real?

The theory of gravity claims we are kept on the world by being pulled towards the ground by this supposed force. This implies we naturally are in fact floating beings.

Are we floating beings?

IMO, the claim the earth consists of a hard crust, then a layer molten material with solid ball in the middle, was invented by scientists for the purpose of explaining gravity.

Funny how so many people seem to accept this theoy as fact when common sense and a bit of science would have proven this theory was and still is just a heap of crap

Before you fall off your trolly; consider that back in the days when this guess was arrived at, the deepest hole that had ever been dug into the earth at that time was less than 5,000 metres.

Given that its about 160 miles from surface of the earth to the centre of the earth, IMO, only a fool would accept as established fact that the earth consists of a hard round ball in the centre, then a layer of liquid mantle and then the hard crust on the outside.

Many people must, unfortunately, fall into this category because any talk of the earth being hollow on this site very quickly whips up a frenzy of passionate debate and claim the earth is as the scientists claim.

IMO if the scientists were smart they would start to change course slightly be rewording their claim about the earths construction.

One way they could do this is begin to include the phrase "iIt is theorised that .........."

originally posted by: turbonium1
If you actually found a directional force which has never shown to exist, and required of all other forces to prove they might really exist, first of all, let alone if the force acts alone, or even at all, or in part, with other forces, or factors, involved in some way, which is yet unknown, or so forth....

Why do they accept this one, single force, when nobody even has proven this force exists at all, or if they actually had proof it exists, how could they know it's the only force involved, as they claim, like it's an omnipotent, all-powerful, force, which can pull all objects to it, or stop pulling, to hold in place, or not pull birds or insects at all, too, etc...


And to suggest this 'force' explains anything, let alone it explains our 'endless universe', is a complete joke.

Gravity doesn't even exist, it's based on assuming Earth is round, zipping through space. Because everyone knows that space is endless, we know the Earth is always hurling into unknown space, at all times....

Except the force of gravity will pull every star, while Earth is zipping through space, in perfect synchronization, even while stars are millions of light years from Earth....gravity explains all that, of course!


So when millions of stars above Earth move along at once, with Earth, and always remain in the exact same position, it's all due to 'gravity'.... obviously! That's why we see the same stars, in the same position, all the time!!


Some of you may wish to believe that millions of stars, millions of light years from Earth, could actually exist, with every single star all moving in sync, with Earth, as it zips through 'space'.

Anyone has to believe in a magical force, to believe in such absurd fantasy..


It should be obvious to see how absurd it is, to explain how stars are the same, in your endless 'space' argument..


It's very simple, in fact. All stars are the same, at the same position, since all stars were created, just as the Earth was created. No convoluted excuses needed.

thank you for explaining this so well.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Of course we're floating, atoms can't touch, electromagnetic force or something, so we all float, and also you can't touch anything.
Also we could be sharing gravity with the other universe E8xE8

a reply to: Azureblue

I accept nothing as truth unless I have it proven
To the me, or i

a reply to: Azureblue

IMO, the claim the earth consists of a hard crust, then a layer molten material with solid ball in the middle, was invented by scientists for the purpose of explaining gravity.

So... volcanos

Just imaginary ya?

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: wmd_2008

learn something

did not complete worthwile education

people that think like you

aren't we a ray of *** sunshine

So I atke it you went to his school as well then.

originally posted by: turbonium1
or not pull birds or insects at all, too, etc...

Lift a bird into the air if you let go and it doesn't flap its wings what will happen

a reply to: wmd_2008

It would plummet.


Actually, it would glide. Like a hawk. But that just leads to complicated explanations of soaring flight. So, never mind.

I cant believe this thread is still going honestly....

And using Birds as his proof?

(sigh) Birds and planes both use wings for lift.......they get lift because gravity is pulling them down, and the drag and airflow from both sides of the wings keeps them in flight, fighting against gravity ...........

I know thats a really really simplistic view and laymans terms, but thats how it works.......

If there were no gravity or if gravity didnt pull down, they wouldnt "fly" they would float, another reason why vehicles (other than helicopters, quadrocopters etc) need to be aerodynamic in order to stay in flight.......for the same reason in space aerodynamics dont matter......

Again very very simplistic explanation...