Gravity.

I found an explanation of how water can stay in a spinning bowl...

The string acts as the centripetal force that pulls the bucket and water into the center and keeps them from following their paths of inertia, giving the illusion that centrifugal force is pulling the water away from the center. ... If you spin the bucket too slowly, the water will fall out and you will get wet.

An external force is required to spin the bucket fast enough to give the illusion that the water is held in the bucket by a force which doesn't exist - centrifugal force.

So why don't you ask how come the water spills out of a bucket at slower speeds? There must a force that pushes the water OUT of the bucket, right?

No, you know there is no force acting on the water, pushing it out of the bucket. The lack of inertia at slower speeds is why the water spills out of the bucket. NO FORCE IS PUSHING IT OUT OF THE BUCKET. The water 'appears' to be pushed out of the bucket, by some force acting on it, just like gravity 'appears' to hold us down to Earth, or 'pull' us down to Earth from above. No force exists, it is an illusion.

The illusion of gravity can also be understood, the same way.

I've gone over the features that identify a real force, from an imaginary force. Centrifugal force seems like a real force, compared to gravity. That's how bad gravity is. It can't even be consistent. It holds some objects, not others. It resists no objects which oppose it, like birds. It can't hold astronauts between the moon and Earth in place, or force them down to Earth, yet it can hold a massive moon is place 1/4 million miles away. While it isn't supposed to hold things in place, in the first place!. We feel no 'pull' from a force below us, as we fall to Earth. Anytime we are ACTUALLY 'pulled' by a real, external force, we ALWAYS feel it. Yet somehow, we are supposed to be 'pulled' by a force and NEVER feel it? Are you kidding?


I hope you are starting to question why gravity is claimed to exist, after they have admitted that centrifugal force is an illusory force, that does NOT exist.

a reply to: turbonium1

Okay...So you are saying Earth is like the bucket, and everything on earth is like the water in the bucket.

Then if the things on Earth stick to Earth like the water sticks in the bucket because bucket-earth is being spun outward, and everything ion the bucket-earth is pushed outward toward the earth as well, then earth is being spun outward relative to "what" exactly?

Plus, the spinning bucket analogy requires the bucket to be held in place by someone or something while the water in the bucket pushes outward against the bucket. If the bucket weren't being held on place -- that is, if the person or thing holding the bucket let it go -- then the bucket and water would be moving at the same speed relative to each other (as happens in free-fall), making the water appear weightless relative to the bucket.

Under your analogy describing gravity, Earth is being "held beck" by something as it's also being flung outward, while the stuff on Earth is not being held back, so that stuff is free to be flung towards the surface of the Earth, creating gravity.

So in your view of nature, what is "holding the Earth back" while we people on Earth are being flung outward in a direction toward Earth's surface? What is acting as the "arm" holding the Earth-bucket as the Earth-bucket is flung around?

a reply to: Box of Rain

The flat Earth does not move.

Everybody knows that.

a reply to: turbonium1

Because they have mass, same as all things have mass. Mass and density of objects in air fall through air, nothing is 'pulling things down'...

So the earth has more mass than you or I do, you have agree, right?

so why do we fall when we jump instead of the earth falling or flying up to our feet when we jump?

If mass is all that required to fall

then a plane taking off should be impossible according to your logic, nothing can move off the earth because of mass, earths mass is greater than anything on it so nothing can leave earth not even your feet for a split second because the earth will fall or fly up to your feet or the wheels on the plane?

There's no force in play.

So how do you walk without the earth slamming into your feet?


How do you jump?

reading the rest of your you seem to go back to not realizing everything has mass.

a reply to: turbonium1

It holds some objects, not others. It resists no objects which oppose it, like birds.

Are we really talking to someone who does not even understand how birds fly? This must be trolling, no one can be that ignorant.

Debunk gravity?
May I suggest an experiment, climb to the roof of the highest building you can find.
Jump off the building.
Come back and give us the results.

Oh look, he learned a new word from the previous page... Inertia!!

Congrats Turbo... Too bad you didn't understand the concept...

At least you're trying though

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

he did say time and time again everything but the moon hits the ground, hard as # too.

a reply to: oldcarpy

do birds fly upside down?

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

what is the substance of form" Did that # bird ever explain ground effect?

a reply to: i77oomiknotti

Sometimes they do.

a reply to: Akragon

if i spit on the ground it slows down before it hits the ground. so something fired out past terminal velocity towards the earth slows to terminal velocity by the kenetic force measured potentially mother#ing where?

a reply to: Zaphod58

really? I'll yell at 'em just like i do for flying at night. unless they're crows. I'll tie them upside down and pop balloons on 'em.

a reply to: i77oomiknotti

Really... and if you drop a ball does it slow down before it hits the ground too?

a reply to: Akragon

weight and acceleration.

a reply to: Akragon

does lava expand when it freezes?

If i removed the sun from the sky would you hold it together?

this is my favorite subject.

originally posted by: i77oomiknotti
a reply to: oldcarpy

do birds fly upside down?

Why, yes, they do - sometimes. Why do you ask?

a reply to: turbonium1

You really are backward aren't you the Moon is in Motion forces are in almost perfect balance not quite as the Moon is very slowly moving away from the Earth.

Radio signals get weaker with distance why do you think Radio telescopes get larger to pick up weaker signals same with light larger aperture more light collected fainter more distant objects can be seen.

All science is linked one way or another according to your belief system we shouldn't be able to do what we are doing just now ie be on the internet.

Astronauts move about because they have appled a force to move, look at in simple terms even YOU should be able to understand a bucket of water on a rope spin at the correct speed the forces are balanced no water comes out the bucket is in an orbit the rope tension keeps the bucket in that path increase or shorten the rope and you have to change the rotational speed if the rope snaps the bucket will move in a straight line from that point.

You obviously cannot resolve all the forces that act in a situation that's why it seems wrong to you.