Why don't you believe these women?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TinySickTears

Ummm, if you want an example of a woman not to get smeared for her sexual behavior, perhaps an infamous porn star is *not* the best one to bring up?

Just sayin' ...

whatever you say ketsuko but you are kind of making my point for me

yup. she is a porn star.

people on here think of her as a terrible person and call her terrible names.

what does that say about the person that #s her?

as usual, the male gets a pass.

he has not been called filthy names and called a terrible person for the encounter. just her

###SNIPPED###

the women is almost always looked at differently.

this case. that case. any case

famous judge or billy bob that works at the part store.
the women is the one that is smeared more often that not

i dont see how that can be denied

so i ask again

why are so many assaults and rapes not reported then?
what is you take on that?

a reply to: TinySickTears

Trump hasn't?!

You clearly haven't been paying attention to the media then. Most people here admit he's a philanderer, but we also knew that going into election season. How many wives has he had? How many of those wives did he end up with because they were lovers he was cheating on the previous wife with?

So he hooked up with a porn star, but she doesn't get to parade around her injured virtue all of a sudden and act like she was wounded because she's a porn star. Sex is her career.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Agree2Disagree
a reply to: TinySickTears

Both sides got the snip end of the stick...Kavanaugh and Ford. One gets his reputation ran through the mud being called a rapist. The other gets her name ran through being called a slut and a liar. It's embarrassing to say the least....

A2D

I keep seeing people claim people are calling her a slut

Other than obvious trolls, who has done this?

Meanwhile, we have actual democrats in the senate say they already know Kavanagh is guilty

in talking about people on here.
these people live in real life and if they post these things i tend to believe they feel this way.


how do we know they are an obvious troll and do not really feel this way.
you see the posts man

Show me the post on here calling her a slut.

I will condemn that.

Meanwhile, people claim this shows how much harder women have it, when in my mind, a few anonymous people on social media saying she is a slut is far less serious than US senators declaring him a sexual assaulter based on no evidence.

i know you would condemn it. you have a level head but dude i am not digging through all the pages of all the threads. i dont need you to condemn it either.

you have been active. the posts are there

you dont have to believe it

i will ask you the same thing i asked ketsuko as well

why are do so many rapes and other sexual assaults not reported by the victim?
in your opinion

a reply to: Xtrozero

I know the story... I'm just saying it's not fair to cast judgment before the hearings... no one is guilty of anything at this moment...let's try to keep that in mind.

A2D

a reply to: TinySickTears

Do you know they don't or are we all assuming they don't because ... numbers.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TinySickTears

Trump hasn't?!

You clearly haven't been paying attention to the media then.

im not talking about the media that obviously has an agenda

the right leaning media has theirs and the left leaning media has theirs

i am talking about people on here
in the real world
on twitter

every day normal people

how many people on here save for some outspoken on the left have said anything negative about trump when it comes to that encounter?

how many people have dogged stormy

and back to the kavanaugh thing

yes it is terrible the media are calling him a rapist. we do not know.
i have said that a bunch of times. we do not know. none of us do
it is terrible he is already condemned for it

it is also terrible she is called a slut and things of that nature because of the accusation. that is what i am trying to focus on but it just gets glossed over which further makes my point.

we do not know for sure what happened if anything. can we agree on that?

originally posted by: ketsuko


Maybe she was held down at a party, but it seems to me like she filled in the blanks with a bunch of names she hoped would stand up but aren't really related. And, surprise! None of the people recall what she thinks she does.

I would think by her words that she said both were laughing and Ford jumped on them a number of times and then they all stopped I would agree it seems everyone would have been drinking and being teens they do crazy things without the need to say sexual assult.

The problem is everyone but her says that party never happened, not that they don't remember, that it NEVER happened...

a reply to: TinySickTears

Trump hasnt been called filthy names based on that?

Are you kidding?

In fact, stromy went so far as to mock his penis, which is a running joke.

He has been called all sorts of names by many people for this.

I saw her lawyer on tucker call him disgusting for having unprotected sex with her. Funny no one said "well wouldnt she be disgusting as well then?"

I agree people go to far with stormy being a porn star.

But she is no victim whatsoever.

She is a woman who had consensual sex, was paid to keep quite about it, but saw more opportunity for fame and money by talking about it, and has proceeded to mock the man she slept with.

Yet despite this, people are acting like she is some kind of victim. She is not.

If a porn star guy slept with pelosi and did all of this, he would be called out as well.

The truth is there are people on all sides that say terrible things.

The narrative that women are the victims of things like this as far as our public discourse goes is not true in my estimatuion on the whole.

It seems like most people with power overly give the benefit of the doubt to women now days.

a reply to: ketsuko

this is impossible

minds are clearly made up

you know for a fact she is lying(which she very well may be)
you know for a fact he is telling the truth(which he very well may be)

i dont know for a fact and i doubt i will never know

so i guess i have to bow out cause i dont know what to say

i do not know. i dont know how i can know
it is #ty he is being called a rapist when we dont know and it is #ty she is getting smeared when we dont know

so i guess thats it

have a good one

a reply to: TinySickTears

What are we supposed to say?

They hooked up.

That's it. There was nothing to suggest it was anything less than consensual.

And sex is her effing job. That *is* what porn stars do. If she and he came to an agreement, then that's the end of it.

She got lambasted because she tried to make like her virtue was wounded by it. I'm going to ask you - What virtue? How was she injured by a consensual hookup?

a reply to: Grambler

ok man
i just dont see what you see

have a good one grambler

im sure well be in another discussion somewhere

i just dont want to argue this anymore

im going to look at cars

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Agree2Disagree
a reply to: TinySickTears

Both sides got the snip end of the stick...Kavanaugh and Ford. One gets his reputation ran through the mud being called a rapist. The other gets her name ran through being called a slut and a liar. It's embarrassing to say the least....

A2D

I keep seeing people claim people are calling her a slut

Other than obvious trolls, who has done this?

Meanwhile, we have actual democrats in the senate say they already know Kavanagh is guilty

in talking about people on here.
these people live in real life and if they post these things i tend to believe they feel this way.


how do we know they are an obvious troll and do not really feel this way.
you see the posts man

Show me the post on here calling her a slut.

I will condemn that.

Meanwhile, people claim this shows how much harder women have it, when in my mind, a few anonymous people on social media saying she is a slut is far less serious than US senators declaring him a sexual assaulter based on no evidence.

i know you would condemn it. you have a level head but dude i am not digging through all the pages of all the threads. i dont need you to condemn it either.

you have been active. the posts are there

you dont have to believe it

i will ask you the same thing i asked ketsuko as well

why are do so many rapes and other sexual assaults not reported by the victim?
in your opinion

There could be many reasons, shame, lack of belief, the numbers of unreported assaults could be wrong, lack of legal advice, etc.

Why are so many men who are abused by women, both sexually or otherwise, not reported? Why are women given lighter sentences for those crimes when they are found guilty?

The fact is its very complicated, but its not as simple as the world is out to get women or doesnt trust them.

a reply to: TinySickTears

I'm going to quote myself at you so you can see me clearly. Please, pay particular attention to the bolded parts especially before you go off half-cocked again.

And you know what?

Because this happened over 30 years ago and she conveniently cannot recall on what date or what time or anything like that this took place, we never will which is again why so many of us think she's filling in the relevant details to push her agenda.

Maybe she was held down at a party, but it seems to me like she filled in the blanks with a bunch of names she hoped would stand up but aren't really related. And, surprise! None of the people recall what she thinks she does.

O.M.G.

I just got done agreeing with you, and you went off all half-cocked.

originally posted by: Agree2Disagree


I know the story... I'm just saying it's not fair to cast judgment before the hearings... no one is guilty of anything at this moment...let's try to keep that in mind.

A2D

I just don't see anything to talk about when everyone says it never happened, and all she gets is a week to practice her lines....

I looked at the lack of facts and the lack of support by even her own friend and so there is nothing to cast judgment about.

a reply to: TinySickTears

Im about to watch football myself.

Look I am not saying you are wrong to condemn people calling her a slut, i just think you are only looking at one side of it.

a reply to: FyreByrd

I do believe most women who claim they have been molested, sexually assaulted or raped. I am a woman who has been molested, sexually assaulted and raped- multiple times. I chose not to involve the police and moved on with my life. I am at peace and have been for many decades. I certainly would not report any of it to any political party. Some of those men are dead now, some are very old and not in a position to harm anyone and the rest are now different people than they were back then, all with wives, daughters and in some cases granddaughters of their own now. Why would I wish to ruin the lives of entire families just to "get it off my chest"? Forgiveness is part of the healing process that I have long since passed. Even if one of these men were to become a famous public or political figure I would not come forward as the past is the past. If you are going to report something like that you need to do it soon after it occurs- not 30 or more years later.

a reply to: FyreByrd

" Do you seriously believe that most women would subject themselves to public ridicule to sabotage a man? "


If Monetary Compensation is Involved in their Decision , then YES . People Gotta Eat ...........

a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

Not to mention it's a scary process even when no one is being accusatory, and everyone is bending over backward to make sure you can tell your side of the story. Even worse, if they have to collect physical evidence. I lucked out on that score both times the yearly lady physical is uncomfortable at the best of times; don't want to think about having it done after something like that.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: FyreByrd

" Do you seriously believe that most women would subject themselves to public ridicule to sabotage a man? "


If Monetary Compensation is Involved in their Decision , then YES . People Gotta Eat ...........

I think these days most left wing activist would jump off a cliff if it would impeach Trump...lol She is also a professional in the field.

Monetary Compensation might just be getting started... I think she is a little wacky in the first place...that is just me...

DP