National Solar Observatory, USPS office in Sunspot, NM evacuated for 'safety reasons'

originally posted by: amazing
So reading an article today and skimming through here and another thread.

It appears the FBI closed down a whole observatory and post office because someone was distributing child porn on their WiFi/Internet. They didn't give a reason for the shut down for over a week or so, because they didn't want to alert the suspect that they were on to him. Seems like a really bad tactical move? Especially coming in on a blackhawk helicopter. That's not going to make a criminal paranoid or anything.

Story is not right. Something else is gong on here.

That is the cover story. It is what you are supposed to believe. That is what they want you to believe, "Oh, kiddie porn. Dirty bastids!", wash your hands to get rid of the filth and move on with your day.

What really happened is what people are asking here. That information will probably not see the light of day. You kind of have to speculate by critically thinking about the what and the where and make an educated guess.

What is the role of the FBI?

That should be your first question. I would have thought, "Oh, it is a solar observatory. Why not the national science foundation?" lol.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I'd like to know how many other suspected paedophiles in the states have had the FBI and a black hawk helicopter turn up?

Surely all you would need is a one man nerd army to track IP's and all that jazz....or it has to do with what AFBs are nearby and what bird has been flying and what has been suspected to have been intercepted.

a reply to: pigsy2400

Or it's not military related, but someone else, and has to deal with them.

a reply to: pigsy2400


I was wondering about the Blackhawk too. But given the remoteness it seems a bit of a diversion. It was the quickest way to get onsite.

Even for one guy, there would more agents. Drugs, money, pedo activity, name it. They show up en masse even if the agent is mainly desk duty; it is the show of force. David Letterman had a video up of a takedown showing an FBI agent trying like h3ll to try to keep her helmet on while entering a building!

One helo, agents dashing around grabbing equipment does not really jive with the cover story, or the FBI modus operandi, does it?

Btw, I am following along with everybody else!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Not really relevant, but I'd be willing to bet it was a Pavehawk, not a Blackhawk.

a reply to: Zaphod58


If I was being forced to evacuate by authorities I would probably not be able to tell the difference either! That detail would not be the forefront of thinking!

Besides, it is cool "black helicopter" or even "unmarked" to add flavor to the story!

Now that we have "IP addresses" added to the narrative, I wonder if it was "pre-send" or "post send" that drew attention? (The moment I saw the story I knew it was not CP) Or was it, "Gee, maybe we should do a sweep for open wifi signals"?

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

If it came from an Army unit, then the Pavehawks are SOC birds, which means it's SOP for them to not say a word to anyone. So that's one less loose end to worry about. Blackhawks are regular units, which know not to say anything, but it's one thing to know, and another to live it.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

If it came from an Army unit, then the Pavehawks are SOC birds, which means it's SOP for them to not say a word to anyone. So that's one less loose end to worry about. Blackhawks are regular units, which know not to say anything, but it's one thing to know, and another to live it.

Thought the pave was strictly AF, don’t the nightstalkers fly regular hawks too?

a reply to: BigDave-AR

They fly MH-60Ms. They're officially listed as Black Hawks, but they have the same structural modifications, and some of the same systems as the Pave Hawks. It's just easier to call them both Pave Hawks.

a reply to: ToasterBorst

So- the story has changed yet again.

How many different versions will there be by October- 12? 15? Yeesh.

At this rate, it'll be something else entirely next weekend.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
It's kind of funny. They throw out criminal activity, and everyone calls BS. They throw out the exact same story, but throw in child pornography, and suddenly it makes perfect sense. No wonder so many of these operations go unseen.

Because of the whole "Think of the children!" cliche. it's trigger words.

Look at the 3D gun guy for an idea of how the feds like to work someone over.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: BigDave-AR

They fly MH-60Ms. They're officially listed as Black Hawks, but they have the same structural modifications, and some of the same systems as the Pave Hawks. It's just easier to call them both Pave Hawks.

Yeah I figured they were hotrodded to near pave specs just checking because I was going off memory. Aren’t they going to switching over to the whiskey hawks (for Army SOF)?

I remember last week someone on /pol/ with insider information stating that it was child porn related. He gave the context that someone in there (I think part of faculty or janitor) was using the network of the observatory to upload thousands of child porn content every day. There was more to it but I forgot.

originally posted by: wylekat

originally posted by: Zaphod58
It's kind of funny. They throw out criminal activity, and everyone calls BS. They throw out the exact same story, but throw in child pornography, and suddenly it makes perfect sense. No wonder so many of these operations go unseen.

Because of the whole "Think of the children!" cliche. it's trigger words.

Look at the 3D gun guy for an idea of how the feds like to work someone over.

I was thinking the same thing the amount of info they have on everything video of coming to and going from the place they met to the hotel and everything smells like a setup, how hard would it be to give an older looking teen a fake ID and paying her to meet up with dude, what’s he supposed to do call and verify her identity? How do they have the video from all the different places weeks later usually it’s like 5 days before they start recording over the older surveillance footage on the drives?

a reply to: BigDave-AR

The Air Force is. The Combat Search and Rescue bird is the HH-60W.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: BigDave-AR

The Air Force is. The Combat Search and Rescue bird is the HH-60W.

Yeah I got myself crossed up I confuse myself too easily.

a reply to: Kuroodo

This is the archive of the entire thread:

archive.4plebs.org...

This is a snipped texts straight out of yahoo,

During a search through a child protection database in July, federal agents reportedly identified child porn that was downloaded to IP addresses on the observatory’s wireless network. An affidavit from the FBI said the facility’s chief observer discovered a laptop that appeared to contain pornography. The time frames for the downloads were found to match times when the janitor was on the premises, the affidavit said.

Ok good, FBI's working on it real close and personal. Wifi makes it a little more difficult to track down the offender yet they narrowed it down to this janitor's laptop.

Ok now,

The FBI continued its investigation during the closure, and executed the search warrant at the janitor’s home on Friday. The items seized there included three cell phones, five laptop computers, an iPad tablet, two hard drives, 16 thumb drives, eight compact flash disks and four SD cards, according to the FBI’s filed receipt.

Holy macaroni, they got him! He's got all those pornography data in his hard drives.

The janitor is named in the warrant, but his name is not being published because he has not been charged. Update for 10:20 a.m. PT Sept. 20: In response to inquiries, AURA spokeswoman Shari Lifson said in an email that “we cannot on an ongoing law enforcement investigation.”

It's still an ongoing investigation. Those files must be encrypted or something. It's surely taking a real long time.

Find anything strange here?

I can start with how a janitor can afford all that stuff.
I guess I'm in the wrong line of work.

Kiddie porn... Go figure.
Getting kinda old hearing that narrative coming from the government. It is the perfect cover to shut down any questions. If you question the kiddie porn story, you are then declared a pedo and supporter of child porn. It's definitely effective at shutting down any questions. Only problem... Why has he not been arrested?