"Poop Patrol" to clean human feces from SF streets, homelessness ignored, Little India

a reply to: gr8skott

I can only speak for my own city and yes, lack of enforcement has been the problem here. Enforcement has taken a massive dump over the past 3 years, and the few they do bother to capture are immediately released to continue their nonsense. During those 3 years, crime here has become untenable.

As an aside, what other species on Earth shields and coddles their groups' mulligans to the detriment of the species?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: gr8skott

As an aside, what other species on Earth shields and coddles their groups' mulligans to the detriment of the species?

Apples and oranges. Other species do plenty of things humans think is terrible like dogs eating poop, and chimps killing and/or eating their newly born young. Sea otters rape baby seals to death. Penguins do all sorts of sexual nasties from necrophilia and sexual abuse of chicks.

No offense, but pretty sure compassion is what makes us human. Humanity defined by Merriam-Webster : 1. Compassionate, sympathetic, or generous behavior....

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Well if we get to a species ending scenario I'll call you. I can change to that line of thinking really quickly. I don't mind the "coddling" so much at the moment.

a reply to: gr8skott

When do the productive people of a community, those who are putting their blood, sweat, tears, and lives into working towards the best they can provide for their own families receive a bit of compassion?

Easily fixable. Seize the second and third houses of the rich liberals in their beloved gated communities and give them to the homeless. Same goes for any empty building owned purely for greed. and institute a program that encourages employers to employ & train people who were previously homeless, plenty to go around once the illegals are gone.

Of course the Rich elites shouln't be paid a penny in compensation since they didn't care enough to do anything about it to begin with.

a reply to: Ohanka

Yeah but that's wealth disrtibution.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: gr8skott

When do the productive people of a community, those who are putting their blood, sweat, tears, and lives into working towards the best they can provide for their own families receive a bit of compassion?

When they start giving it to one another.

originally posted by: Ohanka
Easily fixable. Seize the second and third houses of the rich liberals in their beloved gated communities and give them to the homeless. Same goes for any empty building owned purely for greed. and institute a program that encourages employers to employ & train people who were previously homeless, plenty to go around once the illegals are gone.

Of course the Rich elites shouln't be paid a penny in compensation since they didn't care enough to do anything about it to begin with.

If all these homeless go French Revolution style, it might just happen!

Excellent point about the empty buildings - housing prices in Hong Kong are so high that there are literally luxury skyscrapers sitting empty because they're unaffordable while across the way there are endless slums and tent villages. They're trying to tax the owners of the empty housing to help solve the problem. urbanland.uli.org...

originally posted by: jedi_hamster

originally posted by: gr8skott

originally posted by: TinkerHaus

I don't know if it's mental health or what that causes people to act like this, but there are public restrooms near this area that are open nearly 24 hours. I mean like 2 minutes away by foot.. I think more than a mental health problem we have a "zero %&$&s" given problem.

It's easy to give zero %&$&s when you've been treated like %&$& your whole life, born into poverty, abused by people who didn't know any better, provided with no education, and then released out into the world to fend for yourself without any guidance. You're right, it's definitely a "zero %&$&s given problem" with zero #s being given from people who are looking down on others without knowing anything at all about their situation.

one may be a human biologically, but if he acts like an animal, he'll be treated like an animal.

no disrespect to animals intended.

I hope that neither you nor a child or elderly person in your life succumb to a mental illness; even though then your perspective would be changed.

a reply to: gr8skott

...well, I'm taking the first step in showing that compassion. If you earn your money, follow the law, and are a personally responsible individual then you deserve your money, freedom, and respect... all others piss off.

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Sounds like it's an American problem, not a city one.

It most definitely is that. After the abolishment of slavery, they learned pretty quickly that they were going to need cheap/free labor somehow. And, here we are.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: gr8skott

...well, I'm taking the first step in showing that compassion. If you earn your money, follow the law, and are a personally responsible individual then you deserve your money, freedom, and respect... all others piss off.

Okay. What if you're bipolar, and you don't have any family - or what family you do have is drug-addicted/alcoholic/worthless. So, you can't on your own manage your medication. You need a support system. What if they became sick to their stomach for long enough for their medication to wear off and then they don't think they need it. Now they go manic and lose their job if they had one. Maybe they lose their housing, their vehicle. Now they're homeless and crazy. Does this person not deserve compassion, since they are not earning money and probably breaking the law with their behavior?

How about a child whose parents are very poor, abusive, and uneducated? She was sent to a terrible public school that just passed her through the system. She doesn't know any better because she was never taught anything, and so then got pregnant as a teenager. The pressure of that and having no resources to help led her to drugs for an escape. Now just because she's ignorant she is a drug addict and homeless, and her child is in an abusive foster home ready to start their own sad story.

I understand what you're saying, and I agree that people should earn their money and follow the law, but in order for that to work someone has to have the resources to make that ever happen. Privilege and lack of privilege is REAL. How do you expect these people to just go out and do great in the world when they've never seen anyone else do it, and have never had anybody show them how?

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UnBreakable
a reply to: gr8skott


Why is it Democratic run enclaves are sh*tholes? SF, Detroit, Chicago, etc.

That's your opinion. Worst cities in America:

247wallst.com...

While Detroit was number 1, no surprise there, Chicago and SF didn't make the list.

My opinion? Over 40 people were shot in Chicago two weeks ago. They have the strictest gun laws. Democrat Emmanual runs that city. That’s not my opinion, that’s fact.

originally posted by: gr8skott

originally posted by: Necrobile

originally posted by: gr8skott
I think this is the groundwork of a great idea that could work if the people in the camps were provided with quality mental health care.

Cool, can we send you the bill??

Here, let me try again. If the government used more of it's finances to provide quality mental health care to American citizens, there would not be so much need to spend money on things like the "war on drugs", welfare, prison systems, and the lot. If people received quality mental health care and became well thus had no need to seek self-medication, they may not end up imprisoned, homeless, and making poor life decisions. Instead they would set great examples for their own kids who will go on to produce generations of well-adjusted citizens.

My point is if the focus changed from "cleaning up" the streets to getting individuals help, the results per dollar would be longer lasting than herding the homeless around the city and power washing their # while ignoring the problem at hand.

It is pointless explaining to them if they have the same mental problems but not the poverty.

It is the same government that governs these poor as well as the rich.

There are more than 40 million people living in poverty in the US. Back in 2016 the IMF produced a report critical of the US government's lack of concern for the level of poverty. That's not some left-wing anti-government organization, it's the banks!

There's an old saying that is apt here, "If your'e not part of the solution, your'e part of the problem.

Don't elect governments that pander to the wealthy and don't just assume that you are immune from poverty. A business failure, an illness, a crime or even a bad deal can put you into poverty.

Studies show that 99% of all Americans live below the poverty line at some stage in their lives and fortunes change. If you have any forethought, you would see that ensuring that people can get the support they themselves cannot afford and can use schemes to get themselves out of poverty.

It isn't socialism, it is a mix of fiscal prudence and compassion.

a reply to: gr8skott

Life sucks, get a helmet.

just put a large pallet outside the heads so the '
OD's can just be pushed out onto them for dump disposal. There will be John wars, with the affluent in possession of the prime locations.

originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
Cannot fox the homeless issue for political/economics reasons

If this is liberalism at its finest in America. That’s a fair arguement, Don’t really know a more leftist area. Then can the liberal politicians really admit, things aren’t working? Do the liberal middle and upper class, as much as they say they like liberal programs, really want to be taxed at a higher rate for the governement can fix things.

So the do liberal window dressing, plastic straws are a no go, plastic syringes will still be free.

If you live in California, there really isn't a true middle class anymore.

a reply to: generik

You forgot to ask also how many of them are drug addicts relying on free needles with all the attendant plastic that comes with them.

a reply to: gr8skott

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

So, let's say you abolish the entire military in order to provide your awesome mental health care. How do you intend to make sure everyone gets treated and then continues to remain treated?

Part of the problem was created because the mentally ill have rights too, you know ... including apparently the right to not be treated.

a reply to: Ohanka

Sure, why not reward those who are not willing to contribute to society.

Guess they get to skip the property tax payment also.