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originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux
How were the records destroyed?
By way of the high explosive devices detonated in that part of the pentagon. That was the same mechanism that killed the congressional auditors there.
The Pentagon Attack: Problems with Theories Alternative to Large Plane Impact
First Published January, 2011. Version 3, April 2016.
By John D. Wyndham (PhD, Physics)
www.scientistsfor911truth.org...
The Overall Damage Path
As related by most eyewitnesses, a large plane flew low from the highway over the Pentagon lawn and hit the Pentagon West wall. Descriptions from various witnesses, photographs and FDR data fill in details that include:
The plane knocked down several light poles
The left wing finally was tilted down
The right engine struck a generator trailer
The left engine struck a low concrete wall
The plane mostly disappeared into the building
There was a large fireball
The façade had a hole 18 ft wide where the plane body is presumed to have hit
There was a gash 96 ft wide where plane wings would have hit
The lawn was untouched afterwards except for debris
Windows above the 18 ft wide hole were unbroken
The internal column damage indicates the path direction of material and debris flow from the exterior
inwards
There was a hole in the C ring wall that was roughly circular
The downed light poles, trailer damage, low concrete wall and façade damage, interior columns
damage, and hole in the C ring are in a straight line
The direction of this line is in accordance with the radar reports and the FDR file.
The overall appearance of the damage trail is consistent with the passage of a large plane. The façade can be viewed as a giant shredder (steel plus concrete) through which a plane has passed at high speed, further shredding itself by impacting the interior supports and by the edge-on impact with the second floor, and creating inside the building a high velocity flow of material that builds up pressure on the C ring wall until it gives way. A substantial amount of debris flows out through the hole created.
The overall damage trail weighs against the “flyover” theories, the small plane theory (separation of light poles in a direction perpendicular to the path is about 100 ft), and the missile theory. The direction of the damage trail is contrary to a north-of-CITGO path for the plane. To continue to be viable, one must add a staged event to these theories.
In theory, well-placed explosives or bombs might have been used to create the damage trail, but additional staged events are still needed to explain the eyewitness testimony and airplane debris.
Requirement: Those who hold to the above alternative theories must produce a credible alternative explanation for the overall damage trail, in order to still claim that these theories are viable. If no credible evidence or explanation can be produced, these theories must be discarded.
Status: Requirement not fulfilled.
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Salander
Cite credible evidence of bombs at the pentagon?
originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: waypastvne
That's not proof of anything. It is but pictures proving nothing and government talking points.
Too many facts contradict your talking points and pictures, way too many facts.
The maneuver supposedly made by Hanjour was impossible
The Pentagon Attack: Problems with Theories Alternative to Large Plane Impact
First Published January, 2011. Version 3, April 2016.
By John D. Wyndham (PhD, Physics)
www.scientistsfor911truth.org...
The Pentagon Attack on 9/11:
A Refutation of the Pentagon Flyover Hypothesis
Based on Analysis of the Flight Path
By Frank Legge
(B.Sc., Ph.D., Chemistry)
and
David Chandler
(B.S. Physics, M.S.,Mathematics)
September 2011
stj911.org...
Flight AA77 on 9/11: New FDR Analysis Supports the Official Flight Path Leading to Impact with the Pentagon
Frank Legge, (B.Sc.(Hons.), Ph.D.) and Warren Stutt, ( B.Sc.(Hons.) Comp. Sci.) January 2011
Introduction
www.journalof911studies.com...
AA77's Aircraft Debris at A-E Drive Between the Pentagon Rings C & B, Wedge 1 and 2
m.youtube.com...
Bringing Closure to the 9/11 Pentagon Debate
By John D. Wyndham | Oct 7, 2016 | Editor's Picks, Essays, Science, US |
www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...
Despite the clear evidence and its analysis using the scientific method of large plane impact, a substantial portion of the 9/11 truth movement, including accepted leaders and those involved in major organizations, continues to publicly endorse, adhere to, or promulgate talks, writings and films on false Pentagon hypotheses. Some simply offer criticisms and reject or ignore evidence that would bring closure to the argument. There is clear evidence by way of disintegrating truth groups that these endorsements and communications are injurious to the movement.