Conclusive Evidence of Explosives, Petition to Re-Open 9/11 Investigation

a reply to: Xenogears

Dude it was way more than just money being shifted around in the run up to 9/11...

There were server room expansion contracts with the most unfriendly completion date overrun penalties you'd ever want to see, and a bunch of other super shady stuff (like what sure as f*** seemed like stuff right out of the Hasbara guidebook for making sure people come to the right conclusions who was responsible!)

And yeah the feebs got called... Imagine that... They gave absolutely no F***s about even PRETENDING to look into these things!

And like I said above, if you were to try and look into even these very peripheral things now you'd find yourself running into dead companies and roadblocks everywhere.

The people who want to kid themselves into believing anything like real investigations were done at all because Hearst publishing and etc put out a media blitz and only the craziest of the crazy of twoofers can still afford to go around pushing their version of events...

They're either lying to themselves or outright stupid.

a reply to: neutronflux

In other words, ATS is cheap entertainment. Like a mental chess game. Nof said.

People used to visit mental institutions to observe the crazy antics and incoherent jabbering of the lunatics

ATS is the 21th century equivalent ........

At the bottom of this pickle barrel people will eventually find that there was an attempt to spark a war...a Global war...a false-flag attack carried out by people funded by other people.....ideologies aside......the ASSUMPTION was that because ideologies cannot be reasonably warred upon that the FUNDING would be the fuse running to the Trojan Horse bomb.......well LMAO I guess it didn't work....for a MYRIAD of reasons it didn't work.......an entire house of cards was supposed to FALL that day.....but it didn't happen.

a reply to: roguetechie

As anyways, a 9/11 thread concerning the specific topic of WTC CD is derailed by off topic innuendo because there is no proof of WTC controlled demolitions.

Can you cite a credible study concerning 9/11 WTC thermite?

a reply to: neutronflux

... Nope no one can, and frankly that's the problem right there is that no one can produce anything resembling a credible study either way.

A lot of people went to a lot of trouble to make god damn sure such studies could never ever ever come out of nowhere and bite them!

In the case of criminal law though people have went to prison for murders where the only thing there was evidence of was a cover up, and conspiracy... Well if conspiracies aren't a thing someone should let the federal government know that since you can in fact go to prison for just that charge.

While I'd agree with you that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, the EXTRAORDINARY lengths the federal government went to in order to make sure basically NO EVIDENCE survived outside of their hands sure as hell does not look good!

I'm very much opposed to petitions like this, they're stupid.

That doesn't mean that I'll not add my piece about what approaches should be taken instead.

I mean even if you had "smoking gun" level evidence and lab reports they wouldn't mean a F***ing thing in court anyway because chain of custody would be F***ed .... You know that as well as I do...

So, what exactly is your agenda in asking for something that you're perfectly aware cannot be provided? (and cannot be provided directly as a result of US government policies put in place at ground zero etc etc etc!)

You act like, oh if only there were credible evidence I would change my mind...

But in reality that's rank intellectual dishonesty on your part now isn't it?

Intellectually honest people don't demand things they know cannot be provided.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There is a plethora of evidence found online, that can be backed by credible sources

You need physical evidence not youtube videos.

So do you Sam. You need evidence to prove the official story is true. You cannot find such evidence because it doesn't exist.

That's what these lawyers are trying to say--all the facts and evidence available directly contradict the official story. TPTB will not allow these lawyers to be heard, much less succeed. The MSM will do as TPTB say, and keep the facts away from public view.

a reply to: roguetechie

Really, no credible evidence the destruction of WTC 2 was caused by inward bowing of columns causing buckling leading to collapse?

Might want to start with some honest research? Review the video in the thread presented below.

the-pre-collapse-inward-bowing-of-wtc2.t4760/

www.metabunk.org...

“no one can produce anything resembling a credible study either way” is BS because all video and physical evidence concerning the towers points to impact, heat, and thermal stress damage leading to collapse.

The only thing the truth movement has to offer is innuendo based on photos out of context, hiding of facts, and right-out lies. Like the steel columns from the towers were not cataloged and studied. Or the lie the towes collapsed at the rate of free fall.

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There is a plethora of evidence found online, that can be backed by credible sources

You need physical evidence not youtube videos.

So do you Sam. You need evidence to prove the official story is true. You cannot find such evidence because it doesn't exist.

That's what these lawyers are trying to say--all the facts and evidence available directly contradict the official story. TPTB will not allow these lawyers to be heard, much less succeed. The MSM will do as TPTB say, and keep the facts away from public view.

Why is there no video evidence that supports CD at the WTC?

a reply to: neutronflux

See... There's that intellectual dishonesty again...

Why do you feel such a need to mischaracterize me and what I'm saying I wonder?

This is a trend with you, that's for sure.

You'll have to forgive my utter disinterest in actually continuing any sort of discourse with you, but I'm utterly disinclined to deal with deceivers and obstructionists.

a reply to: roguetechie

Ranting is not providing proof contracting floor trusses did not cause the bowing and buckling of steel columns leading to collapse.

So the towers collapsed at the rate of free fall is a lie.

So the narrative of no inspection and documentations of the twin tower steel is a lie.

Then you state a more credible theory that lead to the buckling supported by the video and physical evidence.

Mythical AE 9/11 fizzle no flash explosives?
Jones fraudulent thermite paper?
Lasers / missiles and holograms?
Nukes?
Rebar covered In rebar?
Dustification?


Funny I can cite actual evidence?
While all you have is innuendo?

Im bound but the day someone uses
the clearest professional TV footage of the towers
just prior to the collapse and view it
through the free open source EULERIAN Video Magnifacation
software so many new things will become apparent.
Actually Eulerian will work on crappy footage too .
So Go Get Them ! You’ll be amazed and if this is anonymous
I ‘ll still have a job . That’s it I’m outta this forum.

originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: CryHavoc

I know what thermite is, and I know what the ingredients are. I would very much like to see an experiment where you put a piece of aluminium next to a piece of rusty steel, blow them up, and create thermite. I'm pretty sure you'll find it impossible.

I'm pretty sure I won't. I just explained how it's not impossible. Are you dense?

a reply to: one4all

At the bottom of this pickle barrel people will eventually find that there was an attempt to spark a war...a Global war

You are right in that the 9/11 attacks were to spark a war

That was Bin Laden's objective

His objective was to get the Americans to attack Afghanistan . Here his suicidal fighters, hiding in caves in the
mountains would wage a guerrilla war against the American much like did in the 1980's against the Soviets

While the American forces were tied down swatting at the Afghan flies, the mythical "ARAB STRRET" would rise in
revolt against the pro western leaders of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, Morocco, etc .....

They would overthrow these leaders and then proclaim Bin Laden as the new Caliph, who would then wage jihad
against the infidels and reclaim territory which was once Muslim (Spain - Al Andulus, Bosnia, Southern France)

Got his war ,,,, But did not consider advances in technology such as precision guided weapons.

Using these American special forces in concert with local anti Bin Laden forces *Northern Alliance") ws able to rout
Bin Laden's forces in few weeks

a reply to: Salander

You need evidence to prove the official story is true. You cannot find such evidence because it doesn't exist.

That falls under the heading of delusional.

originally posted by: CryHavoc

originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: CryHavoc

I know what thermite is, and I know what the ingredients are. I would very much like to see an experiment where you put a piece of aluminium next to a piece of rusty steel, blow them up, and create thermite. I'm pretty sure you'll find it impossible.

I'm pretty sure I won't. I just explained how it's not impossible. Are you dense?

Insults now huh? Not helping your cause sport. So, if it's not impossible, then you should be able to prove it. I'll hold my breath.......

a reply to: Flatcoat

You are the one arguing studies debunked and / or fraudulently pushed as peer reviewed?

The ties to 9/11 run so deep into so many areas, controlled by the shadow elite, that no meaningful convictions will ever come from an investigation. The perpetrators will die, rich and of old age. The victims families will never have closure. 9/11 was a justification for the continuation of the military industrial complex. The victims were killed so others could get rich. How can there ever be closure, not just to the victims and their families but the American public who have been lied to since day 1.

a reply to: PorteurDeMort

The ties to 9/11 run so deep into so many areas, controlled by the shadow elite,

I call BS. Prove your claim.

The victims were killed so others could get rich.

Prove it.

originally posted by: Flatcoat
So, if it's not impossible, then you should be able to prove it. I'll hold my breath.......

I'll get right around to testing it for you as soon as I get my permit for buying Jet Fuel.

Unless you want to do the experiment first.

Please make sure you stand very close to the explosion, tho. You're going to want to see what happens.

a reply to: CryHavoc

Permit for jet fuel??? Just go to a hardware store and pick up some stump remover and cook it down with sugar on the stove top 60/40 mixture til it resembles cookie dough. Home made rocket fuel. I'd probably do it on a hot plate outside just to be safe

I didn't bother reading the whole thread but did anyone make mention of the 45 degree angle cuts in the support beams? I know when we did controlled dets that's how we used to rig up the det. cord so the beams would slip instead of just cutting and landing.

The angle ensures they slide so the integrity is compromised to achieve structure failure. I remember seeing pictures of angled cut in some of the beams and then hearing they were melting the steel down awfully quick after. What gave me the biggest suspicion was hearing the guy say on TV "we had to pull it."
There are a few different types of equipment used for an initiation system but the most common type is the m81 igniter which basically looks like a green mini flashlight with a keyring on the end. You put your shock tube in the other end say fire in the hole 3 times, put your finger in the ring and you "pull it"