What does "gun control" mean at this point?

originally posted by: crayzeed
do you have one eye open or both?

My All Seeing Eye is open.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: jimmyx
nothing is going to happen.....more kids being killed, more mass slaughters......get use to it.....Americans kill 33,000 other Americans every year......Americans love killing other Americans....it's so obvious

but why? Why do we do it, and others don't? Something, or lots of somethings is causing this.

you answered your own question...."why do we do it, and others don't"....find out why others don't

LOL, that's the million dollar question. Do you know the answer?

originally posted by: smkymcnugget420
a reply to: network dude

one issue at a time, unless they are related

They are intimately related... Drugs are already banned Federally and at the state level, but i can walk down the street and get any drugs i want whenever i want. Why would any remotely intelligent person think that guns would be any different?

right. But we are looking for answers as to how to keep these needless deaths from happening. I don't think it's the guns either, but it sure as hell is something.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: jimmyx
nothing is going to happen.....more kids being killed, more mass slaughters......get use to it.....Americans kill 33,000 other Americans every year......Americans love killing other Americans....it's so obvious

but why? Why do we do it, and others don't? Something, or lots of somethings is causing this.

you answered your own question...."why do we do it, and others don't"....find out why others don't

Other than the Vegas shooter, every mass shooter has had obvious mental health issues, so clearly mental illness has something to do with it. But other countries with guns have people with mental illness, and meds are used there too. So why does the U.S. have such a problem with mentally ill people shooting up movie theaters, schools, malls, etc?

a reply to: kaylaluv

Fun fact: only three other countries have a constitutional right to bear arms.

Haiti, Guatemala, and Mexico.

While we don't often hear of school shooting in those countries, they're not exactly doing great with gun violence.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Other countries don't just rely on prescriptions.

Prescriptions can be great, but it's rare in life that a pill is going to fix you. I feel like in America many have this idea that we don't have to figure out our lives. Just call the doctor and get some happy pills.

Problem is, most of those pills come with a warning of thoughts of suicide. So it's no secret they are a roll of the dice.

a reply to: Shamrock6

There are other western countries that have access to firearms. Israel and Switzerland come to mind. Israel may not be the best example though either.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Until someone wants to do something about the problem we have with the young black man robbing and klling DAILY; I don't want to hear about more stringent laws for LAW ABIDING citizens.

Oh yeah, there went the Elephant in the room.

a reply to: network dude

Some possible factors that result in mass shootings (which only represent a fraction of overall gun deaths in U.S.):

1. Anti-psychotic drugs
2. Lack of purpose/community
3. Culture of violence
4. Fear based decision making
5. Rise in general anxiety of population, less interconnectedness
6. Fame seeking behavior

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: jimmyx
nothing is going to happen.....more kids being killed, more mass slaughters......get use to it.....Americans kill 33,000 other Americans every year......Americans love killing other Americans....it's so obvious

but why? Why do we do it, and others don't? Something, or lots of somethings is causing this.

you answered your own question...."why do we do it, and others don't"....find out why others don't

I think that's part of it. Everything is an argument over here and rarely a conversation.

People are so polarized and grouped up in tribes it's almost taboo to be caught having a civil conversation with someone who thinks differently.

I have a super diverse group of friends. Far right, far left, most of us just in between.

But we get drunk and have awesome conversations and admire each other. But I don't see a lot of that these days.

People have gotten overly sensitive across the board.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

There are other western countries that have access to firearms.

Switzerland has a statutory right to bear arms, not a Constitutional one.

a reply to: waggz

Until someone wants to do something about the problem we have with the young black man robbing and klling DAILY;

We're talking about mass shootings. Last I checked about 90% of them have been white males.

While what you're talking about is also an issue ( black on black violence), it's a separate one related to the socioeconomic situation in the neighborhoods I assume you're referring to.

a reply to: Shamrock6

I don't know about their constitutions, but guns are pretty prevalent in Canada, Germany, Switzerland, aren't they?

a reply to: network dude

Here are some articles with some real ideas that I've found:

Analysis: 10 ways we can prevent school shootings right now -- Focuses on mental/emotional health and treatment of students.

HIT & RUN BLOG Greg Gutfeld: How To Stop Mass Shootings Without Gutting the 2nd Amendment -- Focuses on security measures.

There’s one way to stop school shootings without taking away anyone’s guns -- Focuses on technology.

To me, gun control must include the opportunity for equal and proportionate force... or greater force. Even if we could stop all school shootings we will never stop all attacks on schools or anyone/anywhere. We can do our best to minimize those attacks. We can do our best to minimize the loss of life during those attacks. And we can sure as hell let the potential victims defend and protect themselves/others. We can give them a fighting chance. Instead of making them sitting ducks.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

No it is completely related.

We cant have young teenage black males killing and robbing everyday and not say a word; but as soon as a white guy shoots up a school everyone is for gun control.

It's also not just black on black violence.. its black on white violence. The police chief of nashville just had to spin up a special flex squad because we had record high murder rates in Nashville. 98% of the suspects are young black males.

This is the unpopular, un-PC, TRUTH that no one wants to talk about.

a reply to: waggz

Violence is a problem in America right now.

That's what we're talking about.

Blaming it on one race isn't going to get us very far. If anything it will make it worse.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: waggz

Violence is a problem in America right now.

That's what we're talking about.

Blaming it on one race isn't going to get us very far. If anything it will make it worse.

I am not blaming it on any race. The fact that there is a problem with the black community and gun crime that is not being addressed because it is not PC; IS A PROBLEM.

A problem that fits right into our gun issues as a whole right now. If we are going to talk about a school shooting and gun control then lets talk about all the problems we have with guns.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: smkymcnugget420
a reply to: network dude

one issue at a time, unless they are related

They are intimately related... Drugs are already banned Federally and at the state level, but i can walk down the street and get any drugs i want whenever i want. Why would any remotely intelligent person think that guns would be any different?

right. But we are looking for answers as to how to keep these needless deaths from happening. I don't think it's the guns either, but it sure as hell is something.

I beg to differ on your claim about it not being the guns... Sorry to be the elephant in the room... But Aussie culture is probably as close as your gonna get to the US culture, outside of the states.

We watch the same tv shows & movies, play the same video games, eat the same types of foods, consume the same MSM outlets, are drugged on the same medications... we also enjoy the same high quality of life and have a comparative recreational drug use culture... yet we don't have the same issue with mass shootings as the US.

The only real conceivable difference, which prevents Australia from having these random mass shootings every other week, just like our US counterparts do... is the fact that individuals like Cruz, would never be capable of obtaining any kind of gun in Australia, let alone an AR-15.

a reply to: waggz

So lets say we kill or incarcerate all black people -
will that stop school shootings perpetrated by white people?

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: waggz

So lets say we kill or incarcerate all black people -
will that stop school shootings perpetrated by white people?

How about you respond to what I said with something pertinent; instead of that sarcastic # that's just a waste of time?