Trump wants military parade in Washington

Some people will see this as saber rattling.
Others see it as honoring our veterans.

I tend to agree with the latter.
I doubt it will be like Russia or NK with icbm's paraded down time square.

Get a grip leftists...
Try and show some honor and respect for once...

originally posted by: JAY1980
Some people will see this as saber rattling.
Others see it as honoring our veterans.
I tend to agree with the latter.
I doubt it will be like Russia or NK with icbm's paraded down time square.
Get a grip leftists...
Try and show some honor and respect for once...

If the aim really were to honour your vets...would it not be better to improve the conditions of their lives, instead. It sure looks like he wants to flaunt his big button at the expense of the troops.

originally posted by: DoubleDNH

Sorry but as a vet, the LAST thing we’d want to do on Veterans Day is March in a parade in uniform. That day is for free lunches and time spent with family on one of our few days off.

Few days off...lol OK... In the private sector there are only 7 official holidays throughout the year you get about 14 days off for holidays, and the commander can add Family days off as they see fit. You get 30 days of vacation per year right from the start where in the private sector that would take decade(s) to get to, so many get about 2 weeks off if anything at all. AND if someone in the private sector has an appointment, gets sick or has personal needs they need to use the little PTO/LEAVE that they have for that even if it is 30 mins, where yours is pure time off. Appointments, illness, personal needs are free for you. You are salary so though there can be long days, that is not the norm. Most in the military work 0800 to 1600 and take 1 hour lunch and as many breaks as they feel like throughout the day. Private sector doesn't have that luxury...

NOW the most important part here..... Trump didn't suggest Vet day, your military leaders did, so who should you be complaining about now? So enjoy one of your "few days off" lol

originally posted by: Imhere
Nice try.

That's a real quote, bro.

The outlash and cries is clear. You say trolling yet you seem to jump against it because, Trump.

Um no. I literally told you why I don't like this idea. You can't just invent another reason and argue that because the reasons I told you are tough to argue against.

For the rest of us, I’ll buy a beer and cheers any day, anytime, honoring our military and history. From Medal of Honor to those have fallen.

Certainly not going to kick and scream about a parade. Celebrate it or move on.

Clearly you don't understand symbolism.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
If the aim really were to honour your vets...would it not be better to improve the conditions of their lives, instead. It sure looks like he wants to flaunt his big button at the expense of the troops.

In what way do you suggest? We know there is work to be done with the whole VA hospital aspect, but outside of that they got it pretty good.

originally posted by: JAY1980
Some people will see this as saber rattling.
Others see it as honoring our veterans.

I tend to agree with the latter.
I doubt it will be like Russia or NK with icbm's paraded down time square.

Get a grip leftists...
Try and show some honor and respect for once...

Telling transgender folks they can't serve is honoring our veterans.

Insulting gold star families is honoring our veterans.

Try and show honor and respect for once?

Hmm, should take one out of Trump's playbook and remind grieving widows that their husband "knew what he signed up for."

Lawl, this is far too easy.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Yeah those living salaries that qualify for welfare benefits from time-to-time are definitely an example of having it pretty good.
Military families turn to food stamps

a reply to: RomeByFire

Telling transgender folks they can't serve is honoring our veterans - Not honoring. No reason that the US military should pay for operations or counseling. If they have already transitioned there is no issue is there?

Insulting gold star families is honoring our veterans. - One. Who was a Clinton Donor and paraded his dead son for partisan politics. He is a scumbag for that.

Try and show honor and respect for once? This...please...he loves the military.

Hmm, should take one out of Trump's playbook and remind grieving widows that their husband "knew what he signed up for." - She did know what he signed up for and I do not think that was ever proven was it?

So, all your talking points mean nothing.....

originally posted by: RomeByFire

Telling transgender folks they can't serve is honoring our veterans.

You do know that there are a large number of reasons that a person can not join the military, right? Not just some Transgender thing...The military is very discriminatory, and I don't see how you can suggest all of them in someway dishonor our vets, or is it just a 2018 transgender thing here...

Insulting gold star families is honoring our veterans.

In this case no matter what Trump says it is construed as wrong as it is misquoted or outright fabricated. Listening to a few of his calls it is something very hard for anyone to do, and every word he says is dissected and analyzed by the left to see how it can be spun in their favor. As to Gold Star families entering the political arena as was the case with the DNC speeches they do not get a fee ride at that point to say whatever they want without any backlash.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Xtrozero

Yeah those living salaries that qualify for welfare benefits from time-to-time are definitely an example of having it pretty good.
Military families turn to food stamps

Lets look at that...About 1% of the military uses food stamps, so how do they get there. If they are new to the military they make about 20k a year or about $12.5 per hour. They can get free housing and free food, or if they are a family of 4 they get about 300 a month for food and 1000 to 2500 a month for housing depending on where they live. Let's also add in special pay that can be from 200 to 1000 per month extra. A new person in the military living off base with special pay can easily double they base 2000 per month. Starting salary of a FBI agent is $46k per year but we all know that is just base pay and there are other incentives, military is the same...

Now IF a new person in the military comes in with a full family of 4 AND they live on base AND get no special pay etc they can qualify for food stamps.... that is why we see only 1% since you need lot's of "ifs" and "ands" here to make it happen.

The good news is every 2 years they get a good pay increase on top of annual pay raise and every increase in rank is another big increase, you would never see that in the private sector...lol

Can't say any of this is a bad START for some 18 year old that just graduated high school... So what was your point again Krazy?

a reply to: Xtrozero

1) You only need to have ONE dependent to be kicked out of the barracks and lose access to the chow hall. You don't need a family of 4. I don't know where you got that information from, but it's wrong. When I was a solider there were plenty of no children families or single parent families that didn't live in the barracks.

2) Pay is STILL too low regardless if the soldier qualifies for food stamps or not. $20,000 a year is below the poverty line.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Xtrozero

1) You only need to have ONE dependent to be kicked out of the barracks and lose access to the chow hall. You don't need a family of 4. I don't know where you got that information from, but it's wrong. When I was a solider there were plenty of no children families or single parent families that didn't live in the barracks.

2) Pay is STILL too low regardless if the soldier qualifies for food stamps or not. $20,000 a year is below the poverty line.

Agreed. We couldn't get on post housing when we first started out (husband in the military). I started stripping out of desperation so we wouldn't starve. It was really bleak. Although, exotic dancing turned out to be a pretty good wheeze though.

I want a UFO parade and a newfoundland.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Xtrozero

1) You only need to have ONE dependent to be kicked out of the barracks and lose access to the chow hall. You don't need a family of 4. I don't know where you got that information from, but it's wrong. When I was a solider there were plenty of no children families or single parent families that didn't live in the barracks.

2) Pay is STILL too low regardless if the soldier qualifies for food stamps or not. $20,000 a year is below the poverty line.

Ok I can play your game...

Were i live for an E3 with ONE kid they would make about 2000 per month base pay, their BAH is 2500 and their BAS is about 360 per month. Remember both BAH and BAS is not taxable, so if we add 20% to that it would equal basic taxable salary.

Drum roll please... That fresh out of high school kid with one kid... Gets a gross of $5400 per month... Is a gross wage of 5400 per month OK with you?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Who cares about gross? You live off of net pay not gross pay. Though I find it funny that you can argue this point with me when I've literally SEEN the struggles soldiers with dependents have with pay issues.

originally posted by: Lysergic
I want a UFO parade and a newfoundland.

You are in luck...UFO Week

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Xtrozero

Who cares about gross? You live off of net pay not gross pay. Though I find it funny that you can argue this point with me when I've literally SEEN the struggles soldiers with dependents have with pay issues.

OK net...lol dude... $4400... OK? Or is this not enough

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Xtrozero

Who cares about gross? You live off of net pay not gross pay. Though I find it funny that you can argue this point with me when I've literally SEEN the struggles soldiers with dependents have with pay issues.

OK net...lol dude... $4400... OK? Or is this not enough

For a single soldier it would be fine, but for a family I can see that being too low depending on what rent/mortgages go for in the area you are talking about.

So....if they put this farce on....will Trump dress up in a military style jacket, with full ribbon and medal regalia?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

For a single soldier it would be fine, but for a family I can see that being too low depending on what rent/mortgages go for in the area you are talking about.

Ya nice pay fresh out of HS I would say...

What years were you in service? My point is a starting job is not some huge paying job and the military pays very good for a starting job that will consistently increase. If your life choices are to get married and/or have kids when you have zero skills, low paying job then that is something you need to work through, not something your employer needs to fix for you whether its the military or private.