Government shutdown - Soldiers are being told that they will not get paid!

has anyone seen the trump campaign commercial that basically says democrats are complicit in every murder by an illegal alien?

does that mean every republican is now complicit in every automatic weapons death? thinks those numbers are higher..

honest to god i think the republican party is full of a punch of pusses.. lie, bully, blame - adult babies.



why has the gop sentate twice refused proposals to pay the military??

love the twitter hashtag #CadetBoneSpursShutdown

originally posted by: watchitburn

That would make for devastating front page pictures of young service members not being able to feed kids, pay rent, electricity... Would be political suicide for congress.

I don't see it being allowed to happen.

Especially since those corrupt reps are getting paid, and it will not effect them at all.

originally posted by: dragonridr
Normally they can afford it as long as they are paid for working. You try to go a month without being payed that hurts any family.

Yes and no. Proper financial planning means you should have 6 months expenses in cash, available at any point. Another 1 years worth of expenses available in credit, another 3 months in emergency funds, and then longer term savings in stocks, bonds, etc... most people don't do that though.

In theory, missing a paycheck should have no bearing on your finances. In practice, most people in the US have less than $200 in savings, and even when bringing in credit have no ability to make even an unexpected $400 expense.

originally posted by: knoxie
has anyone seen the trump campaign commercial that basically says democrats are complicit in every murder by an illegal alien?

does that mean every republican is now complicit in every automatic weapons death? thinks those numbers are higher..

honest to god i think the republican party is full of a punch of pusses.. lie, bully, blame - adult babies.



why has the gop sentate twice refused proposals to pay the military??

love the twitter hashtag #CadetBoneSpursShutdown

how many "automatic weapons deaths" have there been lately?

I don't think you have a clue what an "automatic weapon" really is.

Typical.

Nobody gets paid for 9 days anyway.

originally posted by: Buvvy
He and his finacee signed a lease for their rental home in November (they just got married). It would really damage their credit report if they attempted to break the lease and move on base. Not to mention the strain it would put on thier marriage. We will help them get through this.

Hopefully, after going through this the kids will set some money aside and save up and be prepared in case this happens again the next budget cycle. But then again - they don’t have kids yet. Saving money in your 20’s can be so challenging.



a reply to: worldstarcountry

I feel for your son but saving money in your 20s is only challenging if you live outside your means as many 20-somethings do... or if the federal government doesn't pay you.

And......it's over. At least for a couple weeks.

a reply to: Buvvy

Just received a notification, I am considered essential personnel, and will not stand down during the shut down, thus I will get paid, if your son is still on the job, he should get paid, and yes as others have stated if he contacts USAA they will do a temporary pay loan for him, not sure if he has to be a member or not, I have also heard that they have passed a salary section temporary budget to cover essential and active duty personnel.

a reply to: Buvvy

Washington Post just reported salaries and government operations have been funded until Feb 9th. Now your son knows how long he has before he has to deal with a possible next shutdown- he can prepare in advance this time

originally posted by: knoxie
In 2017 President Trump has spent $91,655,424 of taxpayer money on golf trips according to OMB

That is enough money to feed 50,222 homeless veterans for an entire year.

Let that sink in - 50,222 veterans.



During this shut-down will we still be paying for bone spur trump's golf trips?

BS!

a reply to: DoubleDNH

As of 2013 the average basic salary for an E-1 was roughly $18,000 a year. That's about what you make at minimum wage. Even trying to live within your means at minimum wage, it's extremely difficult to save money. Even with housing and other allowances they aren't going to make much more than that until they're into the E-5 range.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: DoubleDNH

As of 2013 the average basic salary for an E-1 was roughly $18,000 a year. That's about what you make at minimum wage. Even trying to live within your means at minimum wage, it's extremely difficult to save money. Even with housing and other allowances they aren't going to make much more than that until they're into the E-5 range.

No one comes out of basic as an E1. You can get in trouble and become an E1. But most will be E3 after first year as E3 you will make from $22,629.60 to $25,509.60. However you also get access to separate rations and BAq and get access traditions like jump pay and combat pay. You can easily add 10000.00 or more a year.

a reply to: dragonridr

Of course not, but that wasn't the point, now was it. You're still not saving money at an E-3 pay. Many E-3s, even with the extra pay are still living hand to mouth. Add in a family, even if it's just two of you, and it's that much harder.

This time it is in the hands of the Republicans.

In the records of the Senate, it was asked by Sen. Clair McCaskille, asking for an immediate vote to pay the military, their families, and those who are receiving death benefits, to be voted on and passed. Care to guess how stopped that?

A Senator McConnell. He objected to the call, and thus the military pay was put on hold and pretty much about to be stopped.

So there is the truth of the matter: A democrat asked to pass a resolution to ensure the military was paid, even while the government was shut down and a Republican stopped it.

Stop panicing this # happens every year. Soldiers will get back pay when its done.

a reply to: texasyeti

if you were told by your boss that you wouldn't be paid for a time, sorry, don't know how long a time, how fast would you be looking for a new job??
I doubt if there are many people in the private sector that would stick with an employer that did that to them.
it's a crappy way to treat our men and women who we give nice shiny guns, tanks, fighter jets, and all the other goodies of war to take with them as they go fight our wars... I bet there are more than a few people out there, that if they had to go a month not getting paid for the job they were doing would buy the gun themselves and go into the bosses office and have a pretty strong conversation with their boss!! our politicians should be more careful, or they might find those shiny guns, tanks, fighter jets, and the rest that they were so kind to give these guys aimed at them one of these times.
i hope the panic that they instilled in the service members and their families was worth the couple of days they got to use them as ping pong balls to fling blame at each other!! and, yes, the dems proposed three different bills that would have avoided that panic, the great majority leader objected to each. he just had to have those ping pong balls!!!
instead of women's marches and blm chaos, we should have masses of people out on the streets demanding that these politicians back up their words and show some real support for our troops... pass a danged law that guarentees they will be paid regardless of gov't shutdown or not, they need to lose their balls on this one!

a reply to: Scrubdog

They are not American citizens until they go through the proper process just like everyone else.

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
This time it is in the hands of the Republicans.

In the records of the Senate, it was asked by Sen. Clair McCaskille, asking for an immediate vote to pay the military, their families, and those who are receiving death benefits, to be voted on and passed. Care to guess how stopped that?

A Senator McConnell. He objected to the call, and thus the military pay was put on hold and pretty much about to be stopped.

So there is the truth of the matter: A democrat asked to pass a resolution to ensure the military was paid, even while the government was shut down and a Republican stopped it.

There was soemthing hidden they were trying to sneak in and that is not being reported then if it was just a clean military funding bill it would had passed.

a reply to: yuppa

It was supported by both parties, the Democrats and the Republicans, all in the Senate were in agreement to pay the military, there were no other objections except for his. Not one other Republican spoke up, not one of them Objected. They already looked at, debated on and had come to a unanimous agreement that it was ready to go.

So why was McConnell the only Republican, out of 50 republican senators, the only one who objected to this?
The records are very clear that he was the only one who objected, all of the others were silent.

Lets think about it, a clean amendment, with agreements by the other senators, and he is the only one who objected.

Unlike the courts, a Senator never has to explain himself or his decisions.

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: yuppa

It was supported by both parties, the Democrats and the Republicans, all in the Senate were in agreement to pay the military, there were no other objections except for his. Not one other Republican spoke up, not one of them Objected. They already looked at, debated on and had come to a unanimous agreement that it was ready to go.

So why was McConnell the only Republican, out of 50 republican senators, the only one who objected to this?
The records are very clear that he was the only one who objected, all of the others were silent.

Lets think about it, a clean amendment, with agreements by the other senators, and he is the only one who objected.

Unlike the courts, a Senator never has to explain himself or his decisions.

Wrong. a senator answers to his constituients. mc connel isnt th estandard bearer for the republicans. all voted for it but him so its HIM and not all republicans who are to be faulted this time.