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Why the Dossier may be the most serious political scandal the US has ever seen.

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posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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www.thegatewaypundit.com...

That's the link.




On Tuesday evening, the political world was rocked by reports about the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee (DNC) having funded the now discredited ‘Trump Dossier.’ An important detail of the report reveals the FBI under James Comey agreed to reimburse the Clinton campaign and DNC for money it spent on the opposition research.



So the FBI reimbursed HRC and the DNC????

Why do you think they did that? I'll tell you. Because Comey et al knew that what DNC/HRC did was illegal and this was Comeys half assed attempt to cover it up for them.
edit on 26-10-2017 by loam because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: Grambler

Yes? I dont remember Obama, Clinton or any GOP member using the Dossier to go after their political rivals. In fact it wasnt even talked about by the MSM until months after.


If it was used in part to get Fisa warrants, then they did use it to go after their rivals.



Are police not allowed to use anonymous sources or tips when investigating?



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: loam

So the FBI paid money to the DNC?
That's got to be some big kind on illegal.



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: loam

Jesus.

How far does this crap go?



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: loam

The gatewaypundit article links back to this CNN article.

www.cnn.com... d=34990834


Washington (CNN)The FBI reimbursed some expenses of the former British intelligence operative who produced a dossier containing allegations of President Donald Trump's ties to Russia, people familiar with the matter said.
The short-lived arrangement before the US election ended abruptly in part because of the frustration of Christopher Steele, the former MI6 spy, that the FBI wasn't doing enough to investigate the Trump-Russia ties.
The Washington Post first reported Tuesday that the FBI and Steele had sought to reach a payment arrangement.

An official familiar with the discussions said the FBI didn't hire Steele as an informant, but that the arrangement instead allowed for expenses to be paid. It couldn't be learned how much he was paid and for how long.


So it wasnt that the DNC was getting reimbursed, it was Steele that was.

This is outrageous.

The FBI paid a foreign agent that was also being paid to do opposition research by Hillarys team to get intel from Russian agents.

This is unreal.



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
It is also insane that a standing president was involved and used his office, federal employees, and resources to influence an election. Which Obama did and will be revealed.


No doubt. As it was when he used the IRS like a personal gestapo unit. I imagine some people likened that Watergate at the time.



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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I want to toss a couple of things up here real quick and see if anyone thinks there might be something here:


September 2015: A still unknown Republican donor who opposed Donald Trump hires Fusion GPS to research the candidate, according to the New York Times.

April 2016: After it becomes clear that Trump will be the GOP nominee, the DNC and the Hillary Clinton campaign take over the funding of the research project, through the intermediary of Democratic power attorney Marc Elias’ law firm Perkins Coie, according to the Washington Post.

June 2016: Steele’s company Orbis is hired by Fusion GPS for the project, per his court filings in a British lawsuit against him. He goes on to produce 16 versions of the dossier before November’s election, according to his court filings.

Summer 2016: FBI begins investigation into Trump associates’ alleged Russia ties.

“Near the start of July” 2016: Steele sends “a report he had written for that firm to a contact at the FBI,” according to an account of his research by Mother Jones’ David Corn.


TPM timeline

Now, while the above was taking place, look at what was also happening at around the same time frame:


September 2015 - The FBI contacts the Democratic National Committee's help desk, cautioning the IT department that at least one computer has been compromised by Russian hackers. A technician scans the system and does not find anything suspicious.

November 2015 - The FBI reaches out to the DNC again, warning them that one of their computers is transmitting information back to Russia. DNC management later says that IT technicians failed to pass along the message that the system had been breached.

March 19, 2016 - Clinton campaign manager, John Podesta receives a phishing email masked as an alert from Google that another user had tried to access his account. It contains a link to a page where Podesta can change his password. He shares the email with a staffer from the campaign's help desk. The staffer replies with a typo - instead of typing "This is an illegitimate email," the staffer types "This is a legitimate email." Podesta follows the instructions and types a new password, allowing hackers to access his emails.

June 14, 2016 - The Washington Post reports hackers working for the Russian government accessed the DNC's computer system, stealing oppositional research on Donald Trump and viewing staffers' emails and chat exchanges. The Kremlin, however, denies that the government was linked to the hack, and a US official tells CNN that investigators have not yet concluded that the cyberattack was directed by the Russian government.


CNN timeline of DNC 'hack'

The very same month that the mysterious GOP donor hired Fusion GPS, the FBI also warned the DNC that it had a compromised computer. The DNC tech genius said, "huh," and left it at that.

A couple of months later the FBI says, "hey, 'member that compromised system we told you you had? Well, it's now sending info to Russia." The DNC says, "we were never told by our genius tech guy..."

Jump to March the following year, Podesta falls prey to a phishing scam due to a type (this is the first I've seen that) and whoosh, we eventually get "The Podesta Emails."

The very next month, Hillary's people assume control of the Fusion GPS oppositional research on Donald Trump, who then hires Steele to conduct the actual digging; to include contacts in Russia. A couple of months after that, the WaPo reports the DNC's computer system was hacked and among other things,"oppositional research on Donald Trump," is stolen.

Any of this related or unintended coincidences?



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: Grambler

Yes? I dont remember Obama, Clinton or any GOP member using the Dossier to go after their political rivals. In fact it wasnt even talked about by the MSM until months after.


If it was used in part to get Fisa warrants, then they did use it to go after their rivals.



Are police not allowed to use anonymous sources or tips when investigating?


The FBI should not use and apparently pay for a foreign agent that is being paid by one candidate to get opposition research from russian agents to get Fisa warrants against the candidates opponent.

I cant believe people are downplaying this.



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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With Comey int he middle seems natural; the guy obviously corrupt to the CLinton's following how he let Bill slither through his Pardongate Scandal.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Basically, tax-payer funded FBI is paying into the DNC.



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:36 PM
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It's difficult to take this seriously when Trump supporters have been in hibernation throughout all the revelations of Trump's connections to Russia...

It feels a little convenient to say the least and extremely predictable.

These forums are nothing more than mud fights. I'll wait for whatever the authorities have to say on the matter. Nothing else really matters anyway.



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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Almost everyone in Trumps campaign and cabinet have deep ties to Russia, why do people keep lying and saying there's nothing there?



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

It definitely could be related.

Many of this issues looked at in a vaccuum are very disturbing.

But when looked at as a whole, is downright frightening.

The DNC paying for dirt against trump from russian agents, the possibility that this was used by Obamas admin for fisa warrants, the fact the fbi paid the same agent that was a opposition researcher against Trump, the fact that the DNC didnt seem interested in stopping hacks, the fact the FBI never even looked at the server, all of the crazy actions by the FBI in the email investigation, Comey leaking info to the press to encourage a special investigator, clapper and others lying about wiretaps existing, the DNC lying about not paying for the dossier, Obama then taking unprecedented actions to spread all of the dirt on Trump, the immense leaks from the IC community against Trump, and on and on.

This doesnt even begin to get in to things such as the Podesta, Uranium one, etc.

A very dark picture is starting to develpo about an intelligence community being an agent for Obama and Hillary and their party.



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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So my tax dollars were used to pay for oppositional research in a presidential campaign.

SMH



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: Grambler

Yes? I dont remember Obama, Clinton or any GOP member using the Dossier to go after their political rivals. In fact it wasnt even talked about by the MSM until months after.


If it was used in part to get Fisa warrants, then they did use it to go after their rivals.



Are police not allowed to use anonymous sources or tips when investigating?


The FBI should not use and apparently pay for a foreign agent that is being paid by one candidate to get opposition research from russian agents to get Fisa warrants against the candidates opponent.

I cant believe people are downplaying this.



Maybe people (like you) are over hyping the story and are confused why others are not buying into it?

The FBI pays informants. It is what they do as an incentive for people to bring them information. Steele brought the information to the FBI. McCain brought it to the FBI too later when he found out about it.



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: Grambler

Yes? I dont remember Obama, Clinton or any GOP member using the Dossier to go after their political rivals. In fact it wasnt even talked about by the MSM until months after.


If it was used in part to get Fisa warrants, then they did use it to go after their rivals.



Are police not allowed to use anonymous sources or tips when investigating?


The FBI should not use and apparently pay for a foreign agent that is being paid by one candidate to get opposition research from russian agents to get Fisa warrants against the candidates opponent.

I cant believe people are downplaying this.



Maybe people (like you) are over hyping the story and are confused why others are not buying into it?

The FBI pays informants. It is what they do as an incentive for people to bring them information. Steele brought the information to the FBI. McCain brought it to the FBI too later when he found out about it.



The way you downplay this is incredible. Steele was in effect a paid agent for the DNC.

He was getting info from Russian agents.

In other words, the DNC was colluding with Russia, in an attempt to prove russian collusion.

Then the Obama admin may have taken that info Steele who was a dnc operative because he was paid by them, paid steele for the info, and the used it to to get a warrant spy on his political opponents.

Again, If trump hire someone to collude with russia to get dirt on democrats,. and then uses that paid for info to get fisa warrants against democrats, you will think it is the biggest scandal in the world.

But when its against Trump, and from the dems and Obama, its no big deal.



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
So my tax dollars were used to pay for oppositional research in a presidential campaign.

SMH

...and they were paid directly to a competing campaign committee.
How is this NOT a Federal agency taking sides and helping to finance one candidate in an election?



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: Pyle

So you don't really see anything wrong here, do you.

It's all okay for the democrats (they didn't do anything wrong) and Trump is evil.


amirite?



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: DBCowboy
So my tax dollars were used to pay for oppositional research in a presidential campaign.

SMH

...and they were paid directly to a competing campaign committee.
How is this NOT a Federal agency taking sides and helping to finance one candidate in an election?



Obama used the IRS to punish anyone who didn't think like him, why not use the FBI as well?



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: DBCowboy
So my tax dollars were used to pay for oppositional research in a presidential campaign.

SMH

...and they were paid directly to a competing campaign committee.
How is this NOT a Federal agency taking sides and helping to finance one candidate in an election?



Obama used the IRS to punish anyone who didn't think like him, why not use the FBI as well?


It looks like he did EXACTLY that.



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