Vegas: Multiple Survivors/Eyewitness Tell of Multiple Shooters at Multiple Casinos

originally posted by: sled735



Again, 400 people aren't shown in the video, but she does talk about people coming in and falling on the floor and dying right there. The person in the video lying on the floor could be one of those.

If you're talking about the video with the maybe body on the floor with the white sheet, that's not from Hooters, it's at Mandalay Bay.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: sled735

Thank you for posting the interview! It was actually that interview which inspired me to ask earlier if someone in the casino at Hooters would be able to hear the shooting from Mandalay Bay and think it was close enough to take cover. Or if they were hearing gunfire closer -- perhaps gunfire from the north or the east of the venue. Or perhaps even closer, in tune with the reported shots fired at the Tropicana, or even the Motel 6 to the east of Hooters. It's about 3/4 mile as the crow flies from Mandalay to Hooters. And maybe about half a mile from the northeast corner of the Route 91 venue -- the corner of Reno and Giles. From the videos I've seen, many folks were running north from the venue between buildings to arrive between the Tropicana and Hooters.

Anyway, all this to say, I meant to post that video also and plum forgot! So thank you!!!

You're welcome.

Here is another interview that I just came across from MFA. I'm still listening, but this guy Scott is talking to says there was another shooter at the Tropicana.

MFA CEO Investigative Journalist “Scott J. Binsack” receives exclusive video and live testimony from a key witness who was part of the Security Team within the Tropicana Hotel the night of the Las Vegas Shootings. He reveals to Scott exclusive information and video evidence of the madness inside and outside the Tropicana. Including serious information that he came face to face with a possible additional shooter from atop of the Club Tower of the Tropicana. Where many eye witness reports confirm sounds of gun fire coming from. A show you do not want to miss!! To join MFA Underground go to ShopMFA.Org

Watch the video from the source page: MFA Underground

All those ambulances just sitting there while a marine
loads a stolen truck w critically injured
people ? Many people asked where the ambulances
were. Hooters looks like the makings of many legal cases.

a reply to: UnderKingsPeak

The ambulances were at Hooters because that is where they set up the first triage unit.
It was too dangerous to bring them into the area of gunfire.

originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak
All those ambulances just sitting there while a marine
loads a stolen truck w critically injured
people ? Many people asked where the ambulances
were. Hooters looks like the makings of many legal cases.

Your point is well taken. It doesn't seem to be very practical or efficient; but I don't think Hooters can be held liable for the decisions of the city/county services and how/where resources were allocated. They didn't make those decisions.

But I do think we have to ask ourselves what might be the reason for it... especially because presumably that would be where the most seriously injured were... the ones who couldn't get to Hooters or anywhere else. Why didn't they set up right there on Giles behind the venue? Or on Mandalay just south of the venue? I'm assuming because they didn't feel it was secure. Which means they thought there was at least one shooter on the exit side of the venue even after "Paddock" was dead.

And if that's the case, great. No sense putting more people in danger. Kind of defeats the whole purpose, eh?

But the greater point is that if they weren't trying to pull the wool over our eyes, and if their ever-changing narrative made any sense, we wouldn't be asking these questions.

originally posted by: Pommia
Love this thread!!! I live in Vegas and worked that night, I was working in a security control room and it was a very confused scene. I can't say which hotel and casino I work at, "have kids and need my job" but it is one of the ones on this thread. I can say that we never had an active shooter, just a lot of scared guests and employees. LVMPD was on our property with two different strike teams and some were officers that responded to the event while off duty. People may have witnessed LEO's in street clothes with full armor and weapons and didn't know they were police? I don't know what happened at any other casino hotels, but I hope you guys keep looking for answers!!!!

Hopefully you can answer this without exposing your employment. Was surveillance footage from your casino taken by law enforcement? Do you know of any noteworthy surveillance footage that hasn't been made known to the public?

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: sled735

The video posted above doesn't show people running into Hooters, but maybe that was later?

I've been trying to figure that out too. Were there two incidents? The initial scare right after the shooting began and then one later? The lack of specific times (and often locations) in the reporting is maddening -- and I don't think it's on accident.

Again, 400 people aren't shown in the video, but she does talk about people coming in and falling on the floor and dying right there. The person in the video lying on the floor could be one of those.

In the video above, I think we're seeing the first of the concert-goers -- the ones who are uninjured and were able to move quickly. The ones who were injured, and the ones helping the injured, would have taken much longer. And yeah, I'm sure some didn't make it in the end. The concert-goers spanned all generations. I don't doubt that some could have passed from heart attacks even. That kind of scare and then the physical exertion, even without injuries, that would take its toll on some folks.

This is a great thread! I cannot help but wonder what, if any, role was played by Crowds On Demand, which some claim ran an ad on Craig's List for a "Las Vegas event"? I wonder if that ever materialized?

I know that with Pulse the many crisis actors were quite evident and caught on several cameras. I wonder if somehow those strolling into the casino here with one guy saying "let's go!" or whatever, might somehow be crisis actors?

originally posted by: sled735
Has this been posted yet? All the threads are moving too fast for me to keep up with what's been shared to this point.

Schanda Bennett is a blackjack dealer at Hooters. Here is a transcript of how she described what went on inside the night of the shooting:

Schanda Bennett was working last night at the Hooters Casino Hotel in Las Vegas when the shooting started. That casino's close to the concert venue where last night's attack happened. Schanda Bennett is a blackjack dealer. She had two players at her table when the shots started. She says she put the cover on her table and then hid underneath. And then people started running into her casino, people who were running away from the shooting. She described it to me earlier today when I talked to her on the phone.

The video posted above doesn't show people running into Hooters, but maybe that was later?

MCEVERS: How many people do you think - I mean, did you see?

BENNETT: How many people? I saw at least 400 people. How many wounded people? It was at least 70 wounded people. I mean, we had Metro all out in the front. There were people - there were bodies in the front of the casino that was just laying there. People that ran from the venue - they just died right there.

Again, 400 people aren't shown in the video, but she does talk about people coming in and falling on the floor and dying right there. The person in the video lying on the floor could be one of those.

There's a lot more to the interview. You can read it fully here: Hooters Casino Dealer Describes Scene Near Las Vegas Shooting

They showed up earlier the video outside the Hooters takes place after the shooting...

So yeah many hotels all along the strip had wounded and bloodied people showing up trying to get away from the shooting.

originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak
All those ambulances just sitting there while a marine
loads a stolen truck w critically injured
people ? Many people asked where the ambulances
were. Hooters looks like the makings of many legal cases.

Why would Hooters have a lawsuit? If anything that would be the emergency response teams. However Police locked down the strip even to support vehicles everything nearly except armored cars were traveling down the strip.

A huge amount of the concert (nearly 20,000 a small town...) flooded into Hooters people that had been shot flooded into that hotel. The Marine Hero that stole a truck and even says they were already staging to stay out of the line of fire!

This is sort of ridiculous wondering why the ambulances were not driving right up to the concert to pick up the wounded...come on! What good does it do you to have emergency responders killed?

a reply to: Salander

This is a great thread! I cannot help but wonder what, if any, role was played by Crowds On Demand, which some claim ran an ad on Craig's List for a "Las Vegas event"? I wonder if that ever materialized?

Funny you should mention that. The guy commenting on the black monster trucks congregating at the top of the Hooters parking garage also remarked on how big the crowd was that night. At first I thought he meant at the game, but I think he meant in downtown in general. So maybe.

I know that with Pulse the many crisis actors were quite evident and caught on several cameras. I wonder if somehow those strolling into the casino here with one guy saying "let's go!" or whatever, might somehow be crisis actors?

I've seen claims of crisis actors, even repeats from one crisis to the next, but I just don't want to go there. I have absolutely no genuine way of distinguishing between a true victim who is injured and wounded and who is not. And the harm that's done to a true victim slandered as a "fake" doesn't make up for whatever harm a crisis actor may cause. At worst, they confuse the issue a little. And in the end, they have to live with themselves. Their problem -- not mine!

For those concerned about the Ambulances "just sitting there" lets consider some numbers shall we?

There was a concert with a crowd of nearly 20,000...TWENTY THOUSAND! Who needs crisis actors that amount of people creates pandemonium...

Next
Stop looking at the death toll (Sorry I have to be blunt...) there were at least 500 injured! FIVE HUNDRED! Those are from being shot! , or trampled!) Seriously...just because they didn't die, doesn't mean that many were life threatening!

500 is much more than most hospitals even in a huge city like Las Vegas can handle so lets logically think about it...those with the most life threatening requiring Emergency surgery were transported.

Next they had to set up multiple triage units to deal with those injured that is why those ambulance appear (cause you will see some leave!!!) to just be sitting there. They also couldn't keep driving and picking up wounded as they could have been shot as well so they stayed as close as possible and...get this I am betting used Hooters as a sheltered street (out of line of fire and deemed safe...)

Please use some logic and not make incredible leaps to conspiracy as The sheer Number injured was seriously substantial

originally posted by: abeverage
For those concerned about the Ambulances "just sitting there" lets consider some numbers shall we?



Next
Stop looking at the death toll (Sorry I have to be blunt...) there were at least 500 injured! FIVE HUNDRED! Those are from being shot! , or trampled!) Seriously...just because they didn't die, doesn't mean that many were life threatening!

500 is much more than most hospitals even in a huge city like Las Vegas can handle so lets logically think about it...those with the most life threatening requiring Emergency surgery were transported.



Please use some logic and not make incredible leaps to conspiracy as The sheer Number injured was seriously substantial

What are you trying to say? Your post contradicts itself a bit.

Please use some logic and explain your point in a coherent and clear way....you know, for the rest of us dummies on this thread to whom you keep saying "don't you people look at details" and other admonishments.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: KansasGirl

You mean this video, with authorities w/ their guns drawn (and pointed at civilians) while someone carries a briefcase behind them? Not seeing any white sheet or bodies, maybe you saw a diff. version?

ETA - I think you mean this one

The top video is the weirdest thing that has come out of all this madness.

Can anyone explain this ?

I'm starting to get the idea this and these other instances of weird acts testified to are some kind of drills going on at the same time as the shootings.

911 and many of these events had drills going on, this is starting to replicate that

a reply to: Willtell

It's just of one of the hotel casinos that night--- MYNY or maybe Hooters? Either way it's just a SWAT team rolling through.....it is strange isn't it? I think it may be discussed earlier in this thread.

a reply to: Boadicea


Until Pulse, I did not fully appreciate the role of a crisis actor, but in that incident there were several very clear examples of crisis actors, and only one had a fake leg wound. The others were primarily interested in reciting the official storyad nauseam to anybody with a camera or microphone.

I have not noticed anything in this case like that, but who knows? As a way to spread fear, I am wondering about the reports of shootings at other casinos that have not been verified.

a reply to: abeverage

there were at least 500 injured! FIVE HUNDRED! Those are from being shot! , or trampled!)

Thank you for putting the numbers in perspective for us.

We're looking at two or three triage staging areas for literally hundreds of wounded people -- even after many were taken to hospitals. So many, in fact, that the hospital emergency rooms were being closed to new patients because they could not handle the load. Those triage areas were invaluable in providing emergency first aid on scene, deciding which ones needed to be in hospital immediately, which ones could be patched up until they could get to the hospital, and those who could be patched up and sent home... etc.

Those triage centers could not be staged in areas still under fire -- or even suspected of being still under fire. What good does it do to send in first responders to help people if those first responders are put in the same danger? None. In fact, that would be worse than stupid -- it would be downright reckless and dangerous.

It seems to me that those triage areas were placed where the injured and wounded were going to when they fled the gunfire at the venue. Pretty darn practical and efficient to me. Looking at a map, it is very easy to see the path taken from the north side of the venue straight up the parking lot between the Tropicana and Hooters, and exactly where that triage area was set up.

I'm still not convinced that there was not additional shooters at Hooters, the Tropicana, etc. But one doesn't preclude the other. Those first responders did an amazing job under impossible conditions. No criticisms or complaints from me. God bless 'em one and all.

I'm still interested in seeing a list of the casualties. Not by name, but by type of injury or wound. How many trampled or otherwise injured? How many with gunshot wounds and what kind?

A good friend lives there, and he and his wife have 2 different friends with kids at the concert. 2 siblings, one alone with friends. Of the 3, one completely unharmed, 1 with a gunshot wound to arm, and 1 dead.

a reply to: KansasGirl

You must not be aware that abeverage was in Las Vegas that night and staying at the Mandalay Bay. At least, I hope you are unaware, because I don't want to think you would have responded the way you did if you did know.

Of everyone chiming in on this situation -- including me -- abeverage is the one speaking from personal knowledge and experience. And as far as I'm concerned, therefore with the greatest authority and insight into the situation. Whereas we spout and spew what we think happened or didn't happen or should have happened, abeverage knows whereof he speaks.

And I very much appreciate his input. He doesn't have to contribute a darn thing, and given the trauma he personally experienced, I have much respect and admiration for his contributions. I hope you will as well.

a reply to: Willtell

The top video is the weirdest thing that has come out of all this madness.

Can anyone explain this ?

All I know about it is that it was supposedly taken at the Tropicana that night/morning. No further explanation for it that I've seen. And nothing to even prove the claim. It could have been taken long before that night for all we know -- though I haven't seen such a claim.

It's a mystery.

I thought it very odd that the two guys in back break off to the right away from the armed escort at the end of the video. That makes no sense either. But I have no context beyond what we see, so who knows?