Vegas: Multiple Survivors/Eyewitness Tell of Multiple Shooters at Multiple Casinos

Are we being gaslighted in the worst possible way??? I fear so. Despite the insistence by the authorities and media of the "lone gunman" narrative holed up in the Mandalay Bay firing upon only one target, there are multiple survivors/eyewitnesses who insist otherwise.... and police audio reports that back them up. And these accounts are quickly being removed by Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, etc. If I could, I would thank each and every one of these people for their amazing courage in reporting their experiences and standing strong in their truths, even as they are called liars and crazy and other derogatory names. But I can't, so I will support them the only way I know how by sharing their experiences.

This post will attempt to correlate the police audio with some of these witness accounts. Not only in terms of multiple shooters firing upon the Route 91 Festival, but also at multiple casinos. This will require several posts to get it all in, so this will be a very long OP... and shows just how much is being kept from us -- and how many survivors/eyewitnesses are telling a very different story than the authorities and media. I have quoted only brief excerpts from each account, but all are worth reading in their entirety.

I cannot find a complete transcript of the police audio, so I have used several partial transcripts to put this together, and I have done my best to rectify the audio counters to the correct time in Las Vegas (PDT). I believe my times are within one minute of the actual time -- so not perfect, but close enough for our purposes.

For reference -- and getting one's bearings -- there is an excellent map of the Route 91 venue here. And you can find maps of the casinos affected here.

I shall start with the Route 91 concert venue. There are many videos analyzing the audio of the gunfire as multiple shooters, and everyone is welcome to post any that found especially compelling. But I shall focus on the eyewitness accounts here.

Concert Venue:

10:08 pm -- “Shots are coming from Mandalay Bay halfway up.”
10:09 pm- “We have an active shooter inside the fair grounds.”
10:12 pm- “Control be advised I have shots coming from Gate 7.”
10:22 pm - “We’re getting from civilians saying there might have been 3 shooters.”
10:23 pm- “We’ve interviewed multiple people in concert venue that is on the north side of Hacienda, east side of Las Vegas Blvd saying there are multiple people who have been shot or were shooting in the concert venue.”
10:53 pm – “CONFIRMING, the Mandalay Bay and Alibaba/Giles are the 2 shooting locations!” “Do we have a 3rd?”
12:32 am - Officer requests a Strike Team to Gate 4 of the venue; Officer: ‘We have a suspect who we are not yet able to take into custody.’
Strike Team 22: ‘We are en route.’

Survivors
Kymberley Suchomel-- Facebook Post

But then the 3rd volley hit... and it was close. Very, very close to us. I could physically see the impact of the bullets on the astro-turf, I could feel the warmth and the passing of bullets....I thought to myself "we NEED to hide", but as I looked quickly for somewhere to go, the gunfire once again got closer and closer. We couldn't hide because they (and I do mean THEY) were chasing us.

Next, while still running, I called my grandma to tell her the exact same thing. But the gunfire wasn't stopping this whole time. It wasn't ceasing. It wasn't slowing down. And it was directly behind us, following us. Bullets were coming from every direction. Behind us, in front of us, to the side of us.... The farther we got from the venue, the closer the gunfire got.

Rocky Palermo -- Video
Rocky Palermo Article

Palermo strongly believes there were between 3-5 active shooters during the attack because as he ran away from the initial gunfire, he describes bullets not only raining down, but flying horizontally at the crowd.

Palermo — an avid hunter familiar with guns and ballistics — says the different trajectories of gunfire was extremely evident, even in the midst of chaos.

Gio Rios -- Video
Gio Rios -- Facebook Post

Family and friends concerned about the RT91 festival massacre please share and spread this post for it is completely real and the news is not telling the entire truth.

There was more than one shooter, I believe there was 4-5 shooters and I saw/heard 4 of them and there was one of their men down in the concert who lit fire crackers... The person who lit the firecrackers was right next to me as it blew my eardrums (right side of stage facing the stage closer to the front of the stage)

"Gail" -- Michael Savage Caller

… and the thing that we noticed -- and my husband noticed too, and I think even the metro police officer, there were shots that were higher pitched, and there were shots that were lower sounding, and they were going at the same time, and the lower shots were getting closer to us. And I’m thinking, “Oh my God, there’s somebody walking in the crowd, spraying their guns back and forth shooting people, and he was getting closer.

Anonymous Sister -- Facebook Post (via UFO Today)

My sister was bartending the bar at main stage..
Everyone around her getting shot/dying..
She saw multiple shooters on stage shoot up VIP, then start aiming at the crowd and shooting everyone running away.. There was also someone shooting from roof of casino down at everyone simultaneously..
It was all orchestrated..
She barricaded herself.
Bodies dropping next to her and the gunman walked RIGHT NEXT TO HER and was firing at everyone.

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Caesars Palace
11:27 pm - “Please be advised now we’re getting shots fired at Caesar’s and Bellagio.”

Cassie Harrison

We were in Caesars Palace tonight and there was a shooting in there too. For some reason the news hasn’t even mention this.
We heard about the first shooting as we were walking and went into Caesars to wait it out. We were in the food court and all of sudden you see everyone running for their lives from the casino area right next to the food court. We took off and then I hear about 20 gun shots behind me. We took cover behind a wall and managed to escape through the kitchen. It was like a scene in a movie. The news isn’t saying anything so I thought everyone should know there were multiple shootings here tonight.

Teezy Bee

Why are they covering up the other shootings in Vegas last night? I didn't see anyone hit where we were but it was guaranteed shots fired at Caesars Palace about 30 minutes after the concert, there couldn't of been just one shooter!

Shooting wasn't only at Mandalay Bay, about 20 minutes after hearing about shots at the concert we were at Caesars Palace and 10-20 shots rang out, people running & ducking throughout the casino more than 100 of us escaped through the back of the food court kitchen and made it back to our hotel

Bellagio
11:27 pm - “Please be advised now we’re getting shots fired at Caesar’s and Bellagio.”
11:29 pm - [What sounds like fully-automatic gunfire can be heard over an open mic with a fast cycle rate, possibly an MP5 9mm] ‘Bellagio is hearing a lot of shots being fired. A suspect is inside.’
11:57 pm- “The Bellagio employee entrance looks Code 4.” (no further assistance needed)
12:22 am- “415a now Bellagio PR (?) is hearing a lot of shots being fired.”
12:23 am- “Please be advised a 415a Bellagio, PR’s hearing a lot of shots being fired, not seeing anyone. They’re on the 1st floor and whispering…and now she’s saying suspects are inside with her and she’s whispering to not talk.”

Survivors

Jeff Richards Facebook Post

At approximately 11:20 we heard gunshots coming from the lobby of the hotel. Not echoes. Not “bangs”. Gunshots.
“Shooter, there is a shooter” someone yelled and all hell began to break lose. Screams erupted from the lobby just a few feet from where we were, and hundreds of people began running towards us…
We spent approximately an hour in the ballroom of the hotel. Few details leaking in via social media. Reports of multiple shooters taking over the strip etc…
The hotel was covered in broken glass and walking was dangerous. Just as we recovered the shoes from an employee -more screams erupted once again. More people running. More fear. Once agin we were ushered into a ballroom and spent the next few hours there. After 4 AM we were permitted to leave the Bellagio and make our way back to our hotel. We were sent out the back of the hotel and not allowed near the lobby where we had heard the original shots.

Renee Downs Video
Rene Downs Interview

Rene and her husband (ex Marine) both witness the attack at Bellagio
Hi Rene, did you hear shots at Bellagio with your own ears?
Yes. Absolutely. No doubt.
Have you seen or hear any broken glass?
Glass, shoes, partitions, all On floor. Cleaned up by time we came back down.

Planet Hollywood
11:49 pm - “Can we contact Planet Hollywood? We’re getting some reports of possibly shots fired there.”

Survivors
Crew Chief, USAF

Heard 2 shots clearly At 11:12, and my wife heard 5-6 coming from basement at 11:30
We got separated at 11:13 We are furious, PH refuses to acknowledge anything
They are not telling the truth, and we can't figure out why, we have talked to 6 diff people about what happened.

Orrora Monroe -- Thanks to AskTheAnimals for this amazing video!
(If you can only watch one video, THIS^^^ is the one to watch. Ms. Monroe is the daughter of a police officer and the former wife of a Marine; she does an absolutely fantastic job of describing and documenting her experiences that night).

Hooters
11:17 pm - “Referencing Tropicana they’re advising there was a hispanic male, dark skin with an afro, unknown clothing with a backpack. Said he squatted in the driveway of Hooters and looks like a suspect.”
presidentofcanada

MULTIPLE SHOOTERS: Police shot this person (under the blanket) as I was evacuating my hotel leaving the Hooters Parking Structure... There were multiple and simultaneous distinct patterns of gunfire coming from the hotel rooftops. Not echoes. I was on the 14th floor of Hooters Hotel Casino overlooking the venue and adjacent parking lot. I had to abandon my things in the room and escape down the emergency staircase to the parking structure….As I was leaving LVMPD shot this person next to a white car in front of Hooters. I took this picture as they were putting the blanket over the person. It is not a concert goer victim nor the "lone gunman in the Mandalay Bay". Things did not go down the way the Las Vegas Police and local news are reporting this. Please get to the bottom of this. There were clearly Multiple Shooters with military grade high-caliber mounted machine guns.

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A couple eyewitness accounts regarding multiple shooters at several casinos:

Rikki Raulerson

I'm posting this for those of us who were on the strip Sunday night, who know what we saw and what we were told by police officers, security guards, and even the local news when all of this madness started... We were told that there were 7 confirmed shooters, and confirmed deaths at multiple hotels. Including Ballagio, the Aria and New York New York. Being told this by a security guard, who then told us to go to the third floor for safety... Running back to our hotel next door, Vdara, we are told once again by police/security checking our id and room key, "yes multiple hotels effected. Go to your room and do not leave.... The news also states, live, that the Bellagio had been effected and there was one confirmed death.

Joe Vargas

I don't care what police or news anchors said on TV. They're lying... There was more than one shooter. People listening to the police scanners heard it all. Active shooters were in more than one area. More than one hotel.... There was in fact 100% more than 1 shooter in multiple casinos at once. 1 person did not just do all that.... We had friends that are related to cops on the ground as it was happening sending texts to their siblings and it was being passed to us.

Many more corroborating survivor/witness accounts at these links:

2017 Las Vegas shooting: police scanner reported multiple shooters in different places

Gunshots downtown right now?

Multiple coordinated attacks in Las Vegas are not reported in the news

Las Vegas Mass Shooting: Eyewitness Accounts

Route 91 festival shooting: How it unfolded on social media

Police Audio Transcripts (partial)

Analysis of Las Vegas Shooting Police Scanner Audio- Are Conspiracy Theories Unwarranted? -- Thanks to LadyGreenEyes for this awesome link!

LISTEN: Amid Chaos In Las Vegas, Police Dispatches Reveal An Evolving Response

Las Vegas Metro Police Scanner Timeline

SECOND SHOOTING SCENE In The Las Vegas Massacre – Giles And Alibaba – Police Transcript Reveals Much More Than Reported!

And a great post from AskTheAnimals in another thread with more videos here.

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Police audio of shooters/gunfire at other casinos, etc.

Police Audio – Multiple Shooters at Multiple Venues

Tropicana:
10:42 pm- “Over by the Motel 6 by Tropicana there’s a white RV. I have pedestrians saying that the older white male in fatigues and a black bag went into the motor home…pedestrians say he came from the area of the shooting.”
10:43 pm - “There’s one WMA (white male adult) in black fatigues in a white RV off of Koval and Tropicana south of.”
10:44 pm - “Giles and Alibaba, several casualties.”
10:45 pm - “We’re going to put a shotgun facing the RV that the suspect is supposed to be in. It’s going to be behind the Clarke Co Fire Dept engine.
10:46 pm- “Confirming I have casualties at Alibaba and Giles east of the Catholic Shrine as well as in the Mandalay Bay. So we have 2 scenes.”
10:48 pm – Set up North of the Motel 6, NW area
10:49 pm- “I need someone at Reno and Tropicana, we might have a possible.”
10:51 pm - “FYI, we’re posted on Koval just north of the target RV at Tropicana, there’s two of us here.”
10:52 pm - “We’re going out on a possible right at the side of Motel 6. There’s 3 of us here.”
10:53 pm - “Confirming the Mandalay Bay and Alibaba/Giles are the two shooting locations. Do we have a 3rd?
11:11 pm - Control: ‘Please be advised there is a woman with a gunshot wound to the head at the Tropicana.’
11:14 pm -- “ Ok now I’m getting information on an active shooter at Tropicana.”
11:15 pm -- “Advise there is an active shooter at Tropicana, active shooter at Tropicana.”
11:16 pm - “I’m outside Tropicana, we’re not hearing any 434’s this could be a diversion.”
11:17 pm - “Referencing Tropicana they’re advising there was a hispanic male, dark skin with an afro, unknown clothing with a backpack. Said he squatted in the driveway of Hooters and looks like a suspect.”
11:21 pm – “I got medics reporting that they’re getting shot at, at the Tropicana!”
11:22 pm - “We have a strike team available send them to the Tropicana.”
11:23 pm - “We made contact inside the Tropicana. They are reporting negative shots fired.”
12:20 am - Officer: ‘One in custody at the Motel 6.’

Luxor
10:55 pm - “Have we confirmed with Luxor that nobody heard shots over there? When we were getting shot at we wanted that checked.”
11:07 pm - “Hey a citizen just advised me a vehicle, black Audi, in the valet at the Luxor possibly has a 445 (bomb), she said it has wires sticking out so don’t let any officers go through the valet at Luxor.”
11:11 pm - “I have security talking to me right now. They say there’s a person saw a male with 413 (person with a gun) inside the Luxor males restroom.”
11:31 pm - “Control can you copy any update on the 445 (possible bomb in Audi at Luxor)… The plate’s gonna be AC0027 Nevada. Newer model black SUV. The car was dropped off at 2213 hours in the valet in front of Luxor. 4 individuals got out. 4 males.

Excalibur
10:34 pm - “About 3 minutes ago a black dually unknown truck, looked like a Chevy, unknown occupied, ripped out of the parking lot east of Excalibur heading South to the Delano…keep an eye on it.”
11:09 pm – They are advising the active shooter is coming down the escalator from NY NY to Excaliber
11:21 pm- “We’re sending 2 teams to Excalibur right now based on earlier detail.”

New York-New York
11:05 pm - “We have reports of possible shots fired inside NYNY.”
11:06 pm- “We’re getting a 415a (assault with a gun) the advisor was a shooter at the front desk. NYNY. And everyone is in the kitchen.”
11:07 pm - “We are getting people saying that there is someone at NYNY.”
11:08 pm - “At NY they are advising the active shooter’s possibly coming down the escalator from NYNY to Excalibur.”
11:12 pm – Asking for confirmation “Do we have a 415a (assault with a gun) at NY NY?!”
11:12 pm - “Do we have a 415a (assault with a gun) at NYNY?”
11:12 pm - “There’s approximately 150 subjects sheltered in place inside the kitchen area there. And two shots were fired inside casino floor…there is several subjects down at NYNY/Zumanity.”
11:13 pm - “No answer from NY security.”
11:13 pm - “Send, if there’s not already 2 strike teams in route, send 2 strike teams in route, they need to advise their call signs, and we need update as soon as they get there.”
11:14 pm - “Whoever is responding to NYNY from the control side, I need somebody to get the cameras to verify whether this is a diversion.”
11:15 pm - “Entering NYNY with a strike team.”
11:20 pm - “Reports from civilians shots just fired. Two shots in the park area of NYNY.”
11:20 pm - “Be advised there are 2 shots fired in the park area of NYNY. Now they’re also saying one at Aria.”
11:20 pm - “So far NYNY is clear, negative shots fired.”
11:25 pm - “Talking to security now, they’re saying they don’t have any shots fired inside NYNY.”
11:33 pm - “I am strike team 3. I am still in NYNY. I know negative shots fired but we’re still clearing. We have multiple witnesses here as well as people are down on the ground, not shot, just sheltering in place.”

Paris
11:29 pm - “We got reports of a guy with a gun here.” Dispatch says, “What’s your location?” Officer replies, “We’re at the Paris.”
11:29 pm - “Is that reported or confirmed?”
11:22 pm - “We’ve got people running and security trying to point out where the gunman is and we can’t find him.”
11:38 pm - Dispatch to team at Paris- “Are you still hearing 434’s?” (illegal shots fired) Officer responds, “Sorry, there were reports of 434 but I’ve got people running everywhere.” Dispatch- “Ok, are YOU hearing 434’s actively right now?” Officer- “Negative, negative.”
11:49 pm - “I have two teams, we’re coming in the main valet of the Paris right now.”
11:50 pm - “Victor (Paris team) originally said there were shots but she did not hear them and people were running everywhere and that were being reported of 434’s.”
11:53 pm - “We have several strike teams inside the Paris. Negative 434’s. Everybody’s leaving though.”

Mirage
11:37 pm -- Control: ‘Woman is calling in saying that a shooter is on the 7th-floor of the garage at the Mirage.’


Aria
11:20 pm - “Be advised there are 2 shots fired in the park area of NYNY. Now they’re also saying one at Aria.”
11:24 pm - “Reports of shots being fired at the Aria appear unfounded at this time.”
12:21 am - Officer: ‘Shots fired at the Aria. A bunch of people are running but nobody actually heard the shots’

Bally's
12:35 am -- Report: Bally’s security saying they have one detained — saying that he was involved in this. Negative weapons were found on him.
12:36 am - Officer: ‘White male in custody at Bally’s, no weapon.’

a reply to: Boadicea

Awesome list. I will be sure to go throigh it carefully when I have time. Thank you for posting. This shooting has really taken me for some reason. I haven't been so stuck on one topic in quite some time.

The media and government lies to us all the time. Nothing new about that.

So why does it mater if there were other shooters?

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: Boadicea

Awesome list. I will be sure to go throigh it carefully when I have time. Thank you for posting. This shooting has really taken me for some reason. I haven't been so stuck on one topic in quite some time.

Thank you for appreciating it!!!

Like you, I'm pretty stuck on this. I guess we have a problem with terrorist attacks on our own people on our own soil -- and that's as it should be! I don't think there is a more important issue than this right now.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
The media and government lies to us all the time. Nothing new about that.

And, of course, there's nothing new about folks yawning and turning a blind eye to their lies, right? Which, of course, only enables and empowers them to lie to us even more...

So why does it mater if there were other shooters?

If you have to ask the question, I doubt you'd understand the answer.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Because if and when the media and go ernment lies to us or omits important information, then it is our job to communicate what happened to each other. Let's say that it was an act of war vonsidered an actual battle by some enemy foreign or domestic. Well, wr should be aware of it. Or say it means there are terrorist cells active in the United States no longer sleepers. We need to know and be prepared. Or say governmwnt perpetrated the shootings to push an agenda. We need to know. If we are being lied to, then it is our responsibility to spread the real information. Shoot, consider it a dry run for a defense against 1st amendment oppression by an authoritariam government should that occur in our lifetime.

So... it matters.

a reply to: Boadicea

WOW! Awesome thread Boadicea. You put everything right there and made it easier to track.

S&F (100 times if I could.)

originally posted by: sled735
a reply to: Boadicea

WOW! Awesome thread Boadicea. You put everything right there and made it easier to track.

S&F (100 times if I could.)

Thanks, Sled!

I thought it needed to be done -- and I'm so glad it's appreciated!

Max Michor on Twitter (10/1 @ 11:04 pm)

People just started running outside the New York New York - we heard what sounded like gunshots just now

Las Vegas Shooting Timeline Solved For Police Scanner, Body-cam, And Shots Fired: Multiple Shooters Indicated

The Las Vegas shooting timeline has been conclusively established to within approximately one second for the emergency Police scanner audio, LVMPD body-cam footage and shots fired.

LVMPD and the FBI are wrong, the first volley of shots took place at 10:06:05 PM , not 10:05.

Shot volleys end at 10:15:20. LVMPD/FBI maintain that no more shooting happened after that. But the police emergency scanner audio at 10:19:57 broadcasted that an LVMPD officer - call sign "765" - took over the channel to announce that he and others were still taking fire.

Las Vegas Terror Attack: Clear Evidence of Multiple Shooters at Multiple Hotels

The media has glossed over the reports of incidents at other locations by reminding us that police scanner audios are unreliable accounts of what did or did not happen. If a police unit is assigned to travel to a location where gunfire was reported in order to investigate the presence of an active shooter, and they then report back 'Negative shots fired at this location', we may correctly assume that nothing happened there and that whoever made the initial call to police was mistaken.

Here Is The Absolute Mathematical Proof There Were Two Shooters At The Las Vegas Massacre

Video and photo at link pointing out additional gunman at Luxor.

While I dont belive that their were multiple shooters this is a quality thread and I want to say thank you for going through all the effort..



There are no solid pictures or videos of any of this theory having taken place..

So what seems more likely ...

Scenario 1
Essentially a war zone breaking out on the strip but only reports of it all over though no pics or videos

Scenario 2
People doing what they do when chaos sets in and reporting things incorrectly or allowing their own paranoia to create scenarios..

I was involved in a telecom outage at work in the past 2 weeks..initial reports had multiple departments and phones being down yet once I got everyone past the initial chaos and I could assess everything it turned out 1 number was deleted..human nature works that way in a chaotic situation.

originally posted by: opethPA
While I dont belive that their were multiple shooters this is a quality thread and I want to say thank you for going through all the effort..

You're welcome -- and thank you.

There are no solid pictures or videos of any of this theory having taken place..

You are right -- nothing conclusive at least. There are videos/pics that show some evidence -- such as broken glass in the lobby at Bellagio, and a photo showing what is claimed to be a dead body shot by police outside Hooters. But I could find no pics or videos with an actual gunman. Nor could I find any claims of injuries or deaths at other casinos -- and I looked! So I understand there is no hard and fast proof of anything.

I do, however, give the stories credence because many are military vets, and hunters, and such who know gunfire to one extent or another. And especially those who claim to have heard actual gunfire.

Well done Boudicea, this is a hefty bit of work and what's more an incredibly revealing one - it brings the various reports into clear focus from what was previously just a confused jumble of reportage. It must have taken you ages. This is more than just thread-worthy, you ought to approach a conspiracy-friendly news outlet and see if they bite (and I bet one would).

originally posted by: audubon
Well done Boudicea, this is a hefty bit of work... It must have taken you ages.

Thank you! And yes -- I've been working on this for probably a couple weeks.

...and what's more an incredibly revealing one - it brings the various reports into clear focus from what was previously just a confused jumble of reportage.

Right? The more I delved and the more I found -- and the harder it became to track stories down -- the more I wondered just why it was so darn difficult. And the more suspicious I became!

This is more than just thread-worthy, you ought to approach a conspiracy-friendly news outlet and see if they bite (and I bet one would).

Wow -- thanks for the kind words

I'm happy to let it shine right here at ATS. Maybe some open-minded sites will see it though and run with it... We can hope!

Las Vegas Casino Staff Saw ‘Multiple Gunmen’ During Shooting

“Paris casino had active shooting as well,” said Nadia Gissell. “I work there I don’t understand why they are not saying the truth. Literally run for my life just got home.“

“Why won’t the media report on the other hotels?” asked Cameron Espino. “I saw 2 gunman in the miracle mileshops with my own eyes. We had to run out.“

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: Boadicea

Awesome list. I will be sure to go throigh it carefully when I have time. Thank you for posting. This shooting has really taken me for some reason. I haven't been so stuck on one topic in quite some time.

Thank you for appreciating it!!!

Like you, I'm pretty stuck on this. I guess we have a problem with terrorist attacks on our own people on our own soil -- and that's as it should be! I don't think there is a more important issue than this right now.

I could not agree more. It's huge on my mind everyday.
Fantastic work Boadicea.
This is the most important story there is right now
and we cannot quit. Especially with the mounds of
evidence people like you have assembled again and again.

a reply to: UnderKingsPeak

Fantastic work Boadicea.

Thank you! I'm so glad others appreciate it and understand how important this is.

This is the most important story there is right now
and we cannot quit. Especially with the mounds of
evidence people like you have assembled again and again.

Yes!!! Knowledge is power, truth is sacred, and there is strength in numbers. No one can silence everyone, and the more who spread the truth the more empowered we are and the weaker they are.

a reply to: Boadicea
Great, awesome work you have done here!!!


It´s a shame to see how "they"(whoever the puppetmasters are and for whatever reason they did it) can change the reality just with the help of the("their"!) MSM. If the MSM reports are the whole time about only one lone shooter aka Paddock and nothing else, people will just believe the official MSM version of the events and defame even those that were on-site, eyewitnesses at the events, as lunatic conspiracy theorists.