About the Vegas Killer... newest info

originally posted by: diggindirt
a reply to: Boadicea
Don't all these calls have time stamps?
Both sides need to bring out the time stamps to compare.

I would think there would be timestamps at least by the police. But now that I think of it, I don't recall any information being released about 911 calls, just the police audio. The first cop called dispatch at 10:08, three minutes after the shooting started.

I'm pretty sure that the employees of the hotels are told to call security BEFORE calling police if there's an issue.

That's pretty much the point of security, right? An immediate on-site response to an immediate on-site threat.

Perhaps Hannity will ask the guard why the heck he had to use a house phone?

Well, that didn't happen tonight! It was all about Weinstein... not even a peep about the Campos interview.

I've never seen a security guard that didn't have a cell and a radio.

Right? And the latest timeline gives the maintenance worker a radio! But not the security guy??? Yeah, not buying it. Not in a million jillion years.

originally posted by: xuenchen
I notice one oddity with the "Larry Jesus Campos" name.

It seems to be the only one with a nickname style.

"Larry" should be "Lawrence" or something shouldn't it?

Could be planted disinfo.

Outer Limits and Twilight Zone all in one show.

I wrote about that and deleted my comment earlier.

There is one other name like that....Frank Alonso Campos.

And his name appears right where a 'Jesus Campos' might appear.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Sure does appear right where "Jesus Campos" would be,
and it's "expired".

More fodder.

Christ.

a reply to: xuenchen

New story from somebody that got shot and lived.

Gates were locked !!!!

Las Vegas Shooting Victim: “There Was 100% More Than One Shooter,” Gates To Concert Were Locked Shortly Before Attack

I saw that. It was very compelling.

Another compelling eyewitness account came from Gio Rios... compelling to me at least. And apparently others. Facebook removed his post -- called it "fake news" I think. But he reposted it here.

There was more than one shooter, I believe there was 4-5 shooters and I saw/heard 4 of them and there was one of their men down in the concert who lit fire crackers to distract people [from the sound of gunfire or the sound of breaking windows]... The person who lit the fire crackers was right next to me as it blew my eardrums (right side of the stage facing the stage closer to the front of the stage)

The first shooter was at the Mandalay Bay, then the MGM Grand and Excalibur/New York-New York and Tropicana. These are confirmed by me personally and the shooter from Mandalay I believe was shooting an LMG with 100 rounds each go.

I've looked at 12 different eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters from people who have identified themselves -- just to make sure I wasn't getting any duplicate stories. It seems that it was the only the southern half of the Strip that was hit, and virtually every casino. From Mandalay Bay to Caesar's Palace on the west side of the strip, and from Tropicana to Paris on the east side of the strip. The vast majority were owned by MGM. With a couple exceptions, the rest were owned by Caesars Entertainment. None of Sheldon Adelson's casinos were hit. None of Steven Wynn's casinos were hit. I found the most eyewitness reports for the Bellagio, where someone blasted through the glass doors in front. There is video of several men walking through the Tropicana casino with officers pointing weapons at the guest and guests raising their arms in the air -- don't know what that's all about. Casino staff have also confirmed shooters at other casinos. There are police audio reports of a gunman behind the concert venue on Reno and Giles, and the same reports from concert-goers.

I think I'm going to focus on the real-time social media posts next, and see what I find there...

Sorry -- I really meant this for everyone. Didn't mean to pile it all on you!

a reply to: MotherMayEye

There is one other name like that....Frank Alonso Campos.

And his name appears right where a 'Jesus Campos' might appear.

Good job!

Well, this particular Jesus appears to have managed a couple of miracles: Copping a single thigh-wound during a 200-round volley in a confined space is impressive enough, but managing to travel back through time and alter the course of history in order to fit two different competing version of events - well, that is truly dedication, even for an incarnate deity.

Next thing you know, they'll be declaring that some of the fatalities have come back to life!

The only problem I have with the theory of shooters within the concert crowd is, who the hell would put themselves there knowing someone is shooting in that same direction from the 32nd floor with automatic weapons?? It's Russian roulette to survive it.

a reply to: JaeG14

On the other hand, it would be a great way to dispose of potential blabbermouths. You get your gunmen to operate at ground level, but don't tell them there's a sniper above them waiting to pick them off when they've served their purpose. A sort of god-tier Jack Ruby.

Not for one minute suggesting that's what happened here, but it would be a great strategy. Then you have some security guard interrupt Jack Ruby and shoot him to silence the last loose tongue. Perhaps he could then shoot himself in the thigh to make it look like he was really the hero... nah, too complicated. Something would go wrong with the timelines, you'd never get your story straight (!)

originally posted by: JaeG14
The only problem I have with the theory of shooters within the concert crowd is, who the hell would put themselves there knowing someone is shooting in that same direction from the 32nd floor with automatic weapons?? It's Russian roulette to survive it.

Someone already beat me to it.

How do we know any possible shooters in the venue/on the ground escaped uninjured/alive. Two security guys were shot (one killed) and an off-duty LV policer officer was killed. 56 other people were killed.

How do we know that they were all just innocent bystanders? We don't....

a reply to: audubon

Now there's a theory!

a reply to: JaeG14
My immediate thought as well...but audubon may have something there as well.

I'm interested to know if anyone has a link for a diagram of the concert venue and which gates were which at the concert. I've heard various gates referred to in the reports and videos but without knowing what is where it gets murky. Is the lone gate that was open nearest the street or was it on the opposite side of the venue that a gate was open? Appreciate it if someone has seen such an illustration.

originally posted by: JaeG14
The only problem I have with the theory of shooters within the concert crowd is, who the hell would put themselves there knowing someone is shooting in that same direction from the 32nd floor with automatic weapons?? It's Russian roulette to survive it.

Maybe it's time to verify there actually was any shots coming from Mandalay Bay.

Some of the cell videos from the crowd don't show any shot flashes at all from the "window" areas.

All we have is the word of LV police and the MSM.

a reply to: xuenchen

I have yet to see shots fired from MB in the videos I've watched.

Campos has gone MIA,

Stephanie Wash‏Verified account @WashNews 1h1 hour ago
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Jesus Campos was set to do 5 intvs tonight per union president, but they’ve lost contact. “We were in a room & we came out & he was gone”

CTH


Anyone find any other verification - if true it's huge!

originally posted by: Phoenix
Campos has gone MIA,

Stephanie Wash‏Verified account @WashNews 1h1 hour ago
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Jesus Campos was set to do 5 intvs tonight per union president, but they’ve lost contact. “We were in a room & we came out & he was gone”

CTH


Anyone find any other verification - if true it's huge!

Yes...if true, why didn't Hannity just lead with that? Instead we got more casting-couch groping stories that everyone already knew had been going on since there were casting couches.

If Campos bailed (or if he didn't), Hannity should have announced why Campos wasn't there, as scheduled...and anyone else set to interview him.

This is unacceptable from LE, from the media, from the feds...

Huge is right!

originally posted by: Phoenix
Campos has gone MIA,

Stephanie Wash‏Verified account @WashNews 1h1 hour ago
More
Jesus Campos was set to do 5 intvs tonight per union president, but they’ve lost contact. “We were in a room & we came out & he was gone”

CTH


Anyone find any other verification - if true it's huge!

Oh - So - PERFECT

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: JaeG14
The only problem I have with the theory of shooters within the concert crowd is, who the hell would put themselves there knowing someone is shooting in that same direction from the 32nd floor with automatic weapons?? It's Russian roulette to survive it.

Maybe it's time to verify there actually was any shots coming from Mandalay Bay.

Some of the cell videos from the crowd don't show any shot flashes at all from the "window" areas.

All we have is the word of LV police and the MSM.

I suppose he could be a disinformation agent but the guy in the room below the shooter gave a very believable interview. He gave that interview before the Monday press conference. When I read it initially, it didn't make sense because he said he heard two volleys and thought it was fireworks and got out of bed and went to the window to see if he could see the fireworks. But when the third volley started he realized they were gunshots and debris was hitting his window. At the time the interview was published we had been told about the 200 rounds in the hallway but had been led to believe those had come after the crowd was shot. After that minor adjustment to the story by the sheriff on Monday---his story made complete sense.

www.nytimes.com...

I haven't had time to look but I'm pretty sure there are other guests who would have heard the shots from inside the hotel. Granted, most folks visiting in Vegas aren't tucking into bed at 10 pm so I'm not suggesting hundreds but there must have been more than the one guy in the floor below.

I'd still like to know how many of the rooms on the shooter's wing were rented out that night and how many people were escorted out of that wing. I would certainly like to hear the stories of the people in the shooter's wing who were escorted out of the hotel.

Wouldn't a careful planner see to it that the wing he was going to shoot from would be empty when he needed to escape?

If, indeed, there were people on the wing and he had seen them entering their rooms earlier via his camera system, the rounds down the hallway might have been to keep his neighbors from peeking out and interfering with his escape.

I can pretty much say that unarmed people in a hotel hearing shots flying outside their hotel door are going to retreat to the bathroom and stay there, right? And armed people who have two brain cells to rub together won't try to use a revolver to take on that kind of firepower. I'm pretty much always armed when I'm in a hotel but if 200 rounds fly past my door, I'm going to be cowering in the bathroom with my paltry revolver waiting for him to run out of ammo.

So that Laura Loomer lady went back to the Campos residence and someone answered but wouldn't give up any info. I don't know what to make of all this, but here's what I do know. If the official story and witness testimony was cut and dry... we wouldn't be playing this where's Waldo game with Jesus. A lot of people question Jesus' credibility and possible involvement but perhaps there's another angle.

What if he witnessed more than one person in Paddock's room and plans on telling this to the media? Hence, the "gag order" as the FBI would not be happy with this version of the "truth"

a reply to: diggindirt

Weird interview. The witness seems to be corroborating the original story the gunman shot at the security guard after firing at the concert.

I wonder what the debris was that hit his window, too? What would hit the window directly below the gunman's room during the shooting?

originally posted by: JaeG14
So that Laura Loomer lady went back to the Campos residence and someone answered but wouldn't give up any info.

I just viewed the video of the second visit and will try and post it. Laura and cameraman showed up and no security was they so they made it to the door.

The person that answered stated she was not able to say anything. "I have to go, we cant talk about it right now"
The original security guy showed up within minutes, he must have looking for that cat that took his tongue because he said almost nothing.
No other media in the area, an important scoop like this, ?
The corvette in driveway, reportedly Campos', license plates expired in 2006.
On Scene security license expired Jan 2017, only a virtual company
Unmarked car parked outside the house, not the security guys, he was in a truck.

There is definitely a story here, just not the one we're being told.