About the Vegas Killer... newest info

So, if Campos doesn't live at the NV address but in Fontana, CA; who's house is that and why is it guarded? What connects it to Campos in any way, shape or form?

a reply to: Boadicea
Don't all these calls have time stamps?
Both sides need to bring out the time stamps to compare.
I can understand that there might be a few seconds difference between the time on the two sides---not everybody check their time stamp every day----and electronic devices do lose or gain time---but I would think that a timestamp that was six minutes off would be noticed fairly quickly.

Has anyone been able to determine when the first 911 call came in? Did everyone who heard those shots think they were fireworks?

I'm pretty sure that the employees of the hotels are told to call security BEFORE calling police if there's an issue. "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas." is a serious expectation and since this was on a floor with suites for high rollers, I'm sure they'd need to check a bit to make sure it wasn't something they could keep quiet. I'm told by people in the industry that this sort of thing happens more than we could ever imagine. Booze and drugs have fueled a lot of things that one would assume would bring the cops but no police report is ever filed.

Perhaps Hannity will ask the guard why the heck he had to use a house phone? I've never seen a security guard that didn't have a cell and a radio.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
So, if Campos doesn't live at the NV address but in Fontana, CA; who's house is that and why is it guarded? What connects it to Campos in any way, shape or form?

This, I think, is where Luz Staehler comes into play.

a reply to: MotherMayEye
Holy Great Pumpkin Batman! So no interview at all, on camera or on phone? And no explanation of the removal of the previously advertised interview? Just trying to understand...I'm about ready to call for the duct tape because it's beginning to feel like my head is going to explode.

a reply to: IAMTAT

That ties Campos to CA, not NV, unless I am missing something?

What document puts Campos in the NV house?

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Didn't they also refer to Campos as Jose? There is a Jose on that list.....

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: IAMTAT

That ties Campos to CA, not NV, unless I am missing something?

What document puts Campos in the NV house?

Perhaps he rents the house.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I think the worst they could prove is that one person -- maybe two -- dropped the ball. There's no doubt that Mandalay/MGM have one helluva security system, thought out to the minutest detail, and easily documented. But there was no way this could have been foreseen, so they there's no way to prove they should have known better. And since it never happened before, it would be impossible to prove a pattern of negligence, i.e., not calling for help soon enough when a crazed madman on a shooting rampage shoots a security guard. Stuff happens and people make mistakes -- and that's understood to happen, and it's why there's Errors and Omissions insurance. And even with all the thought and planning that's gone into their security, even if Mandalay/MGM isn't at fault in any way, they're going to have to make some changes, if not overhaul the system completely. Mandalay/MGM will do what they must. And in terms of actual cost to the insurance companies (and Mandalay/MGM), it won't really matter.

Maybe I'm wrong... but I really think it's the PR that matters most to Mandalay/MGM.

originally posted by: judydawg
a reply to: Boadicea

Well hell I guess Weinstein was the shooter.

Yeah, must be the pervert... Sheesh!

I am so pissed right now.

Me too. I've thought since the whole Weinstein story broke that it was all about distracting the public from Vegas. Why the hell would they even think we care more about a pervert than an attack on our people? That might've worked once. But they overplayed their hand long long ago.

a reply to: Boadicea

I agree with you 100%. There have been Weinsteins all my life I know his motives. I want to know this shooters motivation.

New story from somebody that got shot and lived.

Gates were locked !!!!

Las Vegas Shooting Victim: “There Was 100% More Than One Shooter,” Gates To Concert Were Locked Shortly Before Attack

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I think the worst they could prove is that one person -- maybe two -- dropped the ball. There's no doubt that Mandalay/MGM have one helluva security system, thought out to the minutest detail, and easily documented. But there was no way this could have been foreseen, so they there's no way to prove they should have known better. And since it never happened before, it would be impossible to prove a pattern of negligence, i.e., not calling for help soon enough when a crazed madman on a shooting rampage shoots a security guard. Stuff happens and people make mistakes -- and that's understood to happen, and it's why there's Errors and Omissions insurance. And even with all the thought and planning that's gone into their security, even if Mandalay/MGM isn't at fault in any way, they're going to have to make some changes, if not overhaul the system completely. Mandalay/MGM will do what they must. And in terms of actual cost to the insurance companies (and Mandalay/MGM), it won't really matter.

Maybe I'm wrong... but I really think it's the PR that matters most to Mandalay/MGM.

Negligence wouldn't have to be proven by showing a pattern or a policy adopted by MB. Gross negligence might, but leaving a security guard to bleed from a gun shot wound for 6 minutes (or more) without calling for help would probably be egregious enough.

If they knew he was shot and didn't call for help...if they knew Paddock was firing 200 rounds into the hallway and didn't call for help...then they are open to negligence/gross negligence lawsuits from every family of those killed and all those wounded.

I think the PR issue would be unimportant in six months. These lawsuits would continue for years if not settled immediately. And settling is terrible PR...it's practically admitting fault.

Hannity show with Campos bust.

Never got there.

BwaaaHaHaHa

More fake trash.

Lots of it.

a reply to: Boadicea

Also think the same...this Weinstein story is a distraction. Big names, too, that are willing to go down/help with this distraction.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Hannity show with Campos bust.

Never got there.

BwaaaHaHaHa

More fake trash.

Lots of it.

It was there, got pulled and scrubbed completely. No explanation.

Interesting.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

My god!

Whatever story Campos was supposed to tell had to be pulled.

Either something come up to ruin the story they had planned... or maybe their whole plan was to distract us. Maybe they really think people are so shallow they'll forget an attack on our fellow Americans if the parade a pervert in front of us.

How can people stand this? Not even an explanation on why the interview was pulled? The media is pure complicit sh*t.

This isn't the first time. Hannity did it with Jerome Corsi in the early days of the Birther campaign. Corsi came back from Kenya I think with some huge story, he'd been arrested, his camera or phone or something confiscated, and he was on Hannity's afternoon show, and they made a huge deal about Corsi being on Hannity's television show that night (or maybe it was his radio show the next day), and then it never happened and it was never mentioned again. Poof! No more Corsi...

originally posted by: judydawg
a reply to: Boadicea

I agree with you 100%. There have been Weinsteins all my life I know his motives. I want to know this shooters motivation.

Well said

a reply to: Boadicea

Gah!! Jerome Corsi? Not a shock there!

Corsi is the biggest disinfo peddler I ever had the displeasure to research.

And that's right in front of our faces. A college text he once wrote called, "Judicial Politics" is still used in law classrooms, today. AND It's a textbook arguing why more women and minorities should be judges & lawyers. One reviewer called Corsi a freaking 'progressive!' He once wrote a book about a Black Panthers shootout with police in Cleveland...and Corsi took the side of the Black Panthers!

He is not the rabid conservative he claims to be now.

I digressed, but it is interesting you mentioned him.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
So, if Campos doesn't live at the NV address but in Fontana, CA; who's house is that and why is it guarded? What connects it to Campos in any way, shape or form?

The only thing I know of is the voter registration for Jesus Angel Campos...

I'm really not sure that any of them are the same person, much less "the" security guard.

I notice one oddity with the "Larry Jesus Campos" name.

It seems to be the only one with a nickname style.

"Larry" should be "Lawrence" or something shouldn't it?

Could be planted disinfo.

Outer Limits and Twilight Zone all in one show.