About the Vegas Killer... newest info

originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Wild thought just crossed my mind. What if the police accidentally shot the security guard. The officers actually were the ones fired on by the shooter as originally released to media. Now, they covering their mistake and assuring Campos he will be a hero, if he goes along with the storyline. Perhaps, even a payoff?

I've wondered that also. Especially in light of the Aussie guy who claims he was staying next door in 134 and saw a security guy killed in a shootout with police... but I'm not sure I believe any of his story, because Room #134 is the adjoining rooms and doesn't have a bathroom! Then again, if the cops did shoot a security guy, then maybe they would plant just such a story with easily proven mis-truths just to discredit the truth at the same time.

At this point, anything is possible.

a reply to: Boadicea

Wait, I found this:

On Tuesday, Las Vegas Metro Police Undersheriff Kevin McMahill explained more about Campos's actions the night of the shooting, helping fill in some of what happened ahead of the attack.

He told KNPR, a local NPR affiliate, that Campos went up to the 32nd floor to investigate a door alarm. While on the 32nd floor, he found that a stairwell door was jammed and radioed down to maintenance.

Campos heard a drilling sound and thought it was odd. A maintenance worker came up to the 32nd floor. As the pair started talking, Paddock began firing through the door of his room, first with a single-fire gun and then with a rapid-fire rifle.

Link

So, he had a radio.

Did he use it when he was shot or did the maintenance man do that part...according to the current version of the story?

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Boadicea

The entire Campos story is getting a good amount of questioning in the media, ALTHOUGH, the only news outlet I've seen claim to speak with him (briefly, by phone) is ABC News.

Why hasn't the news tracked him down and camped outside his home (like, Richard Jewell)? If they got his phone number, they could surely get his address.

Maybe they've tried... and couldn't find him either.

I noticed you mentioned it was the maintenance guy that radioed in the hallway shooting?

That's what it said.

Surely, Campos, being a security guard, would have a radio or cell phone?

Right??? Why would a maintenance dude have a radio but not a frickin' security guard???

a reply to: JaeG14

None of that convinces me he is real and/or that Campos is his real identity if he is real.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: CynConcepts

Is it possible the early reports of 200 rounds in the hallway is simply a misinterpretation from this initial contact event?

There's gotta be something about those 200 shots fired through the door, because everything else has changed -- but not those gosh darn "200 shots".

First, the 200 shots were fired at officers as they entered the corridor... then the 200 shots were fired at the "security guard" after the shooting rampage... now the 200 shots were fired at the "security guard" before the shooting rampage.

There's something about those 200 shots.... I just don't know what it is yet.

Correction: " now the 200 shots were fired at the "security guard" AND maintenance man before the shooting rampage."

The idea that this maintenance man was overlooked for a week is absolutely ridiculous.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

So, he had a radio.

Did he use it when he was shot or did the maintenance man do that part...according to the current version of the story?

Thank you -- I was pretty sure that I had seen something that Campos had radioed in. So I guess this is one more changing of the narrative? Because this article said the maintenance dude did that.

originally posted by: JaeG14
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I think he's definitely real (Jesus campos), but something is keeping him out of the spotlight. I found the FB page for that Liliana lady that started the gofundme flr him. There's not much on her FB but she does specify that she didn't include a pic of him based on his request.

So he's purposely keeping a low profile. However it would be nice to know if this is due to him hating attention, or if he's being instructed to do so by hotel management. Perhaps a combination of both. Jesus and now the maintenance guy are in a very unique position in that they are the only ones to be in relative close proximity to SP during the shooting.

He is a witness basically to the largest shooting in modern history I kinda think he would be keeping a low profile...or was at least asked to until the investigation is complete.

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Wild thought just crossed my mind. What if the police accidentally shot the security guard. The officers actually were the ones fired on by the shooter as originally released to media. Now, they covering their mistake and assuring Campos he will be a hero, if he goes along with the storyline. Perhaps, even a payoff?

I've wondered that also. Especially in light of the Aussie guy who claims he was staying next door in 134 and saw a security guy killed in a shootout with police... but I'm not sure I believe any of his story, because Room #134 is the adjoining rooms and doesn't have a bathroom! Then again, if the cops did shoot a security guy, then maybe they would plant just such a story with easily proven mis-truths just to discredit the truth at the same time.

At this point, anything is possible.

Optional adjoining bedrooms usually always have their own bathroom. Where did you see that there was no bathroom in 32-134? I agree it seems strange the Aussie dude would say that was his room. It would make more sense if he was one room further down, but it is what he says, I would imagine that he has a receipt that shows his room number on it.

originally posted by: abeverage

originally posted by: JaeG14
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I think he's definitely real (Jesus campos), but something is keeping him out of the spotlight. I found the FB page for that Liliana lady that started the gofundme flr him. There's not much on her FB but she does specify that she didn't include a pic of him based on his request.

So he's purposely keeping a low profile. However it would be nice to know if this is due to him hating attention, or if he's being instructed to do so by hotel management. Perhaps a combination of both. Jesus and now the maintenance guy are in a very unique position in that they are the only ones to be in relative close proximity to SP during the shooting.

He is a witness basically to the largest shooting in modern history I kinda think he would be keeping a low profile...or was at least asked to until the investigation is complete.

That's just it. In the 24 hours following the shooting, it was reported that hospital staff and police had Campos stay at the hospital for further monitoring and so that he could be interviewed about what happened.

THAT is when they would have learned the details of when he was shot, what prompted him to go to the floor, about the maintenance man...

It's beyond belief that it took more than a week for that information to come out UNLESS 'Campos' lied to police.

Did he lie to police? Why would he lie? If he lied, then that is the reason he is keeping a low profile.

a reply to: CynConcepts

Optional adjoining bedrooms usually always have their own bathroom. Where did you see that there was no bathroom in 32-134?

This is going to sound lame... but it is what it is... I know I saw pics of the floor plan which showed a wall dividing the adjoining space into two rooms -- no bathrooms. Just two bedrooms. And I cannot find that pic again. I have looked. Nowhere to be found.

I also read that it was because it was only reserved in combination with the suite, never alone.

Take it for what it's worth. But that's what I saw and read.

a reply to: JaeG14

Pretty good cover story eh.

Remember that guy who said he had rented the room next to where the shooting is said to have taken place?

New South Wales man and concert producer Brian Hodge...

"I'm room 32134 so I'm just so glad I didn't make it back to my room," he said.

Sydney Morning Herald

Well, guess what?

Definition of hodge
plural -s
:an English rustic or farm laborer

Merriam Webster

Can't make this up.



a reply to: MotherMayEye

While on the 32nd floor, he found that a stairwell door was jammed and radioed down to maintenance.

Well that fits with this:

Schuck was on a higher level of the Las Vegas hotel on Oct. 1 when he got a call to look at a fire exit door that wouldn’t open on the 32nd floor.

Sometime between when Campos radioed down to when Schuck got the call that something needed fixing is when Campos got shot.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Stories fit like OJ Simpson's gloves.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

In the fourth Presser that Lombardo did on Oct 2, 2017. He seems quite uncomfortable responding about security guard. He states guard was shot in leg not killed. Then at end of Presser, his final question response was to state the 6 officers arrived to encounter gunfire from shooter too. In the recent updated timeline does it still show when the officers encountered this gunfire from the shooter? That would obviously be in all of their reports, right?

Presser Video #4


Oct 2,2017 6pm ET update Presser #4
Final question about responding officers answered at or near 34:30 of video. Sheriff repeats that 6 officers encountered gunfire from the shooter on the 32 floor.

I'm taking both of these with a grain of salt (and a shot of tequila) --

Islamist Account: ISIS Has Video of Las Vegas Shooter Pledging Allegiance to Islamic State

'One of our comrades has made those Trump supporting dogs pay': Left-wing 'Melbourne Antifa'

-- but I figure they're worth posting for informational purposes.

Here's a video that's already in at least 2 threads already.

I see some issues with the video, but take a look.

There seems to be no shots fired from Mandalay Bay.

Time to look at different possibilities especially "Paddock".

Helicopters Involved In Vegas Shooting? Stephen Paddock/Possible 3 Shooters

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
Remember that guy who said he had rented the room next to where the shooting is said to have taken place?

New South Wales man and concert producer Brian Hodge...

"I'm room 32134 so I'm just so glad I didn't make it back to my room," he said.

Sydney Morning Herald

Well, guess what?

Definition of hodge
plural -s
:an English rustic or farm laborer

Merriam Webster

Can't make this up.

This is an increasingly strange set of agriculture-related lexical links that's tucked away in this incident, to be sure.

a reply to: xuenchen

Interesting Theory, but I don't see any of the concert-goers looking up at the sky.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: xuenchen

Interesting Theory, but I don't see any of the concert-goers looking up at the sky.

They're not really looking at Mandalay Bay either.

Maybe the copter engine noise was the cover.

But there are some issues with the video itself.

moved to other thread