About the Vegas Killer... newest info

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: pale5218

Yes Soros has a load of MGM put options.

That means he needs MGM to go way down from when he bought.

MGM has fallen only around $2 from Oct 2nd.

Maybe enough to make some money but not big money.

Depends on the put option "strike" price he bought.

The strike price is not listed in the SEC report.

Hard to figure.

Possible motive sure.

Coming lawsuits will drive MGM's stock much lower.

BTW: Did Soros put any options on The Weinstein Company?

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: TinySickTears


Right. Paddock said that he didn't like country music.

i dont like country music either but im not about to shoot a gang of people over it
the man cracked...
thing is why

You're speaking for yourself. As pointed out earlier, people "crack" for any and every reason. Worst motive imaginable.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
So is Campos still a "hero"?
Just asking.

He is a suspect until ruled out. I have not heard where it has even been attempted to rule him out.

He was reportedly interviewed about what happened.

Was he tested for gunshot residue or was any investigation done as far as his whereabouts before/during the shooting?

Nothing like that has been reported. He has never been mentioned as a possible co-conspirator/accomplice.

Paddock could have opened the door and shot him easily given he was reported to be unarmed and obviously wasn't firing into the room.

If Paddock's video system was working, he would have seen he didn't have a gun drawn.

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Create a hundred scenarios with the facts given...

I mean, whatever, the entire Campos-story defies belief.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
So is Campos still a "hero"?
Just asking.

There's too many people that know "Jesus Campos" is not employed in any capacity at Mandalay Bay.

The "authorities" have to get off that.

Big backfire.

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: MotherMayEye


Or so we have been led to believe.

I still think compelling motive is important.

But *they* are convincing us that it is not unusual for some people to just want to kill a lot of random people.

My 46 years of human experience say people need more motive than that to kill.

Motive used to be a very important piece of circumstantial evidence. Now...not so much.

The human condition hasn't changed that much in my lifetime. I am skeptical or in denial.

i disagree completely

all the people that went postal
the girl that hated mondays
columbine

they did have motive in their own cracked out heads

you really dont think that people just lose their # sometimes and go off?

could be a lifetime of burying # down deep and then they pop

The problem with the "he just snapped" theory is the amount of time and preparation put into this. Even if you completely dismiss the CT aspects, that story doesn't hold up.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Sheriff also said Campos prevented a maintenance worker from getting in harm's way.

Another "guess what" surprise ....

There were no maintenance workers on the 32nd floor at that time.

a reply to: xuenchen

So, I've been thinking about that. There has to bee at least a hundred guards, security that work at or for Mandalay Bay. Someone must know that Jesus Campos is or isn't employed. No one has come out to claim either.

As with special prosecutor Mueller...law enforcement has to find someone to take down. They grilled Paddock's brother for 4 hours yesterday.

Maybe they'll pivot to ISIS eventually, which wouldn't be a bad thing. At least it would give us an enemy and motive in a single package.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: pale5218

Yes Soros has a load of MGM put options.

That means he needs MGM to go way down from when he bought.

MGM has fallen only around $2 from Oct 2nd.

Maybe enough to make some money but not big money.

Depends on the put option "strike" price he bought.

The strike price is not listed in the SEC report.

Hard to figure.

Possible motive sure.

Thanks for that follow up xuenchen. I also look at that amount he Put of $42 mil and my thought was not a significant amount for Soros. But I wouldn't know.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: Dudemo5
What I find strangest is the house with no furniture and the fridge-sized safe full of guns. Who lives in a house like that? I guess the answer is: someone who's going to snap and start murdering strangers.

Simple answer - no one does. Seems the house was set up to look weird, and to make him seem kookier, when all was revealed. Perhaps there is a simpler reason that the neighbors didn't really seem to know either of them. They didn't actually live there at all.

I am recalling the Lanza house where there wasn't even a junk drawer or a junky space to collect crap like matchbooks or paper clips or thumbtacks or pens or parts of *stuff* that's broken off things and you are saving to fix later.

Or maybe I am just a slob and so is everyone else I know.

And 10 year old computer games in a rich kids room who was a whizz with computers

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Sheriff also said Campos prevented a maintenance worker from getting in harm's way.

Another "guess what" surprise ....

There were no maintenance workers on the 32nd floor at that time.

Maybe a mystery "worker" who put the cameras in position?

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: MotherMayEye


Or so we have been led to believe.

I still think compelling motive is important.

But *they* are convincing us that it is not unusual for some people to just want to kill a lot of random people.

My 46 years of human experience say people need more motive than that to kill.

Motive used to be a very important piece of circumstantial evidence. Now...not so much.

The human condition hasn't changed that much in my lifetime. I am skeptical or in denial.

i disagree completely

all the people that went postal
the girl that hated mondays
columbine

they did have motive in their own cracked out heads

you really dont think that people just lose their # sometimes and go off?

could be a lifetime of burying # down deep and then they pop

No, I don't believe it.

It's a *modern* phenomenon.

Yes, I think the phenomenon has existed since AFTER the time that false flags came into existence.

Agree to disagree, I am good with that. I do not believe that people kill without compelling & convincing motive. I do not believe anyone can look at 20 tiny children and kill them for no reason (Sandy Hook).

I don't.

Before I was in high school, it was virtually unheard of, not commonplace.

If anyone had motive..it's the people who BENEFIT. Those are not the dead guys who are blamed.

I'm not sure what's hard to fathom about this being a controlled buy/sell staged by the FBI. That would explain the comms and devices as well as the mass of guns. Something went wrong and the FBI is covering their ass.

Still sticking to this theory given the evidence.

a reply to: JinMI

YES. This too.

Yes.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

www.texasmonthly.com...

a reply to: JinMI

All the employees are being told daily (at shift start times) by managers to NOT TALK to anybody about anything.

Some people have already been written up and warned by the HR dept there.

a reply to: JinMI

holds up to me
just snapping does not mean you have to act on that snap a moment later

i could totally see some dude that has whatever internal pain, justified or not, snapping and planning out something like this.

again i am not saying this is what happened but it would not surprise me at all.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MotherMayEye

www.texasmonthly.com...

Who had a glioblastoma multiforme tumor in his brain that was possibly attributed to that massacre.

I have looked pretty closely at Whitman in the past.

a reply to: TinySickTears

Fair enough but I don't buy it. There would be obsession and possibly erratic behavior that would likely have not gone unnoticed.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

i guess you have to define modern.
i know there is a story from way back in the early days of telephones. some dude that worked for ma bell i think got fired or was disgruntled. i dont remember exactly but he set off a string of bombs.
one of the first instances of letter analysis and things of that nature.

maybe you have too much faith in people
or it is possible i dont have enough

all i am saying is it would not surprise me

i posted a link
phage posted a link

im sure if any of us cared to we could dig up loads of instances that go way back where people just snap and take out any number of people