Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: imitator

Really? Are you aware of how his guns would hold up to automatic induced fire due to bump stocks? They aren't meant to be used like that and overheat, jam, etc. There is a method to his madness if you stop making stuff up.

Seriously?
Your the one talking about aliens hahaha.... talking about nuts!

He probably used a modified gun... did you hear any single fire? Because that happens when you use a bump.

originally posted by: imitator
a reply to: mzinga

Yeah, what your talking about is way out there.... I'm just going on about common-sense theories. The arms deal going south makes more sense, because nobody would use or need that many guns in a shooting.

It was only around 100 K in guns. thats not even a blip for a professional arms dealer to move and or sell. Those were Demo guns and basically throw aways to any Arms dealer worth their reputation.

a reply to: imitator

You think I seriously think it was aliens? The point I was making is any of those theories are as likely as an arms deal.

NONE of the evidence points to this being an arms deal and general common sense eliminates it as a likely scenario.

a reply to: yuppa

With fully loaded magazines in case someone wanted to try em out? Hammer, video cameras, bump stocks. Really?

a reply to: Dragoon01

No it isn't. Look at the next post.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: antibren

Okay...STOP!!

That is a completely different floorplan than the images you posted a moment ago!!

Let's get the floorplan and the door orientations correct before we go analyzing which door was opened/breached and into which room!

ETA...AND, the floorplan posted does not match the picture! Believe me, this is something I work with every single day.

Your reaction is priceless.
One floor plan was off of Mandalay Bay source and they other was created by the New York Times and marked up the original poster.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
You need to go back and watch last night's briefing. That's when the door breach stuff came up. Tiredoflooking is reporting what was said at that time---and how it has been pointed out that the stories don't match up to the photos we've seen. Which brings up the question---are the photos real---the one of the cart in front of 32134 with wires coming from it---and others... And other questions about the "leaking" of photos---have the photos been Photoshopped?

No video from the elaborate camera set-up...security guard becomes "separated" from the cops he's supposed to be leading to the room as a result of the fire alarm going off in that room? Perhaps our grandchildren will be able to figure it out when the documents are released... We are, after all still waiting on materials from the JFK killing.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: antibren

Okay...STOP!!

That is a completely different floorplan than the images you posted a moment ago!!

Let's get the floorplan and the door orientations correct before we go analyzing which door was opened/breached and into which room!

That's the exact same floor plan! that's what I am talking about. Watch the video of the people moving through that room and relate it to the floor plan posted right above. The people in that video are in 32125 the exact room.

a reply to: antibren

So you agree then, correct?

We are (all) debating events using different floor plans. I tend to think the one in your most recent post is the most accurate.

You can stick with your alien and big foot posts.... and I'll stick with common-sense theories.

originally posted by: Dragoon01

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: antibren

Okay...STOP!!

That is a completely different floorplan than the images you posted a moment ago!!

Let's get the floorplan and the door orientations correct before we go analyzing which door was opened/breached and into which room!

That's the exact same floor plan! that's what I am talking about. Watch the video of the people moving through that room and relate it to the floor plan posted right above. The people in that video are in 32125 the exact room.

This user has his mind set and is obviously not up for debate anymore

Okay...this is going to take a few minutes to unravel, but I'll go back and find the conflicting floor plans. Then I'll go back (if I have to) and find who posted what about both. Sheesh! I'm pretty sure I'm paying attention here!!! Not so sure about some others!

Standby...

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: antibren

why would hodge lie? What sense does that make what does he have to gain?

A spot on every talk show in Australia.

He is already very successful we COULD believe that this distraction takes away from his work and cost him money? I don’t think he wants publicity

a reply to: Dragoon01

Omg thank you for your sane post. I thought I was going insane...or many others posting here were going insane or...gaslighting...or. ..
You know what? I think ppl just don't bother to read these days!!!! Lolol. Stick a fork in me, think I'm done!🙃 perhaps I just need a nap!!!!!

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Lol that’s all I politely requested you do pages ago start with that users post history

originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: yuppa

With fully loaded magazines in case someone wanted to try em out? Hammer, video cameras, bump stocks. Really?

It was a live demo of the weapons. You never seen a live demo on live targets before?. Teh cams were wirelessly broadcasting somewhere. the hammer was for the window. And the ROF denotes no bump fire was used. A bump fire will give you a single,a hiccupp shot. Its basically cheating a trigger pull. I can do very fast trigger pulls but accuracy is not even a thought then.

originally posted by: antibren
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


What’s you take on this theory if you need more evidence search his post history. This is his last post.

originally posted by: 0x6372756d6273
www.nbcnews.com...

Officers found the suspect down on the ground, Lombardo said. They then breached the door to the second room in the suite, but no one was there, he said.

This is getting very interesting!

The Sheriff and FBI are claiming they couldn't access the other room, and they had to breach the second room, which was empty. Which room they are talking about is very important! (see my previous posts)

It is very normal for connecting hotel rooms to be lockable on both sides so you can't sneak into your neighbors room. I am assuming they are talking about room 32-134 (which had the other broken window), and they couldn't unlock it because it was locked on the other side. So they breached it. If this door was locked, that means someone locked it from the inside, and then escaped through the front door (the door next to the food cart with the camera).

It also means Stephen Paddock couldn't easily switch between the two broken windows, because the door to room 32-134 was locked. This means there is a possibility of another shooter that was in the room and has escaped.

The other explanation is that somehow Stephen locked the door from the inside of room 32-134, walked out the front door of room 32-134 (past the food cart with security camera) and back into the front door of 32-135 with the bullet holes in it, and then "suicided". Which sounds unlikely.

I doubt they are talking about the actual bedroom inside suite 32-135 because that door doesn't have locking door knobs, it only has a dead bolt lock that can only be locked from the inside! There is no way for you to lock the door from the outside, nor lock it and shut it closed. It's a deadbolt, if that at all.

See here:

Source: www.youtube.com...

To be clear...

Flyingdisk

This post has a floorplan on it, but its the exact same as the one in brown posted above. Its just rendered in 3d and not an elevation like the brown one is. Its exactly the same floorplan.

a reply to: antibren

The floorplan shown HERE

is NOT the same floorplan as shown in THIS post.

They are completely different!

ETA...and even further to the point...there is no door from 32135 into 32134 in the 2nd link (only from the hallway), whereas this door DOES allegedly appear in the first link (above).

So I want to add a little bit of clarity to all the reports that he fired 200 rounds down the hallway at the security guard.

"Police said Paddock managed to fire off over 200 rounds as the security guard approached the suspect's room alone."

From
abcnews.go.com...

Nowhere does it say that Paddock was firing at the officer, it says he managed to fire off 200 more rounds as the officer approached.